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The fucking virus not only attacks the ACE2 receptors, but NOW the CD147 T-Cellls as well - ATTACKING THE IMMUNE SYSTEM LIKE HIV!

 
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He discusses data from the web sites below. Basically we are fuckity fucked. This thing attacks the immune system like HIV does - and as was stated before, causes permanent organ damage - EVEN IF YOU DON'T SHOW RESPIRATORY DISTRESS!!!

[link to www.scmp.com (secure)]

"The coronavirus that causes Covid-19 could kill the powerful immune cells that are supposed to kill the virus instead, scientists have warned.

The surprise discovery, made by a team of researchers from Shanghai and New York, coincided with frontline doctors’ observation that Covid-19 could attack the human immune system and cause damage similar to that found in HIV patients."

Data to back this up:

[link to www.nature.com (secure)]

There's charts there that show WHY they think this is much more infectious than the original SARS virus - because it not only can latch on to the ACE2 receptor, but also to T lymphocytes - which is very, very bad.

[link to www.latimes.com (secure)]

"Krumholtz, who organized a meeting of cardiologists to discuss COVID-19 this week, said the infection can cause damage to the heart and the sac that encases it. Some patients develop heart failure and/or arrhythmias during the disease’s acute phase.

Heart failure weakens the organ, though it can regain much of its strength with medications and lifestyle changes. Still, former COVID-19 patients can become lifelong cardiology patients."

So we are REALLY going to re-open the economy, NY and all?? The fucking state that has THE MOST infections IN THE US?

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add this to your collection 2 hrs ago

Novel coronavirus attacks and destroys T cells, just like HIV

Surprisingly, the team has found that when the coronavirus and the T cell came into contact with each other, the T cell became prey to the coronavirus, wherein a structure in the spike of the coronavirus triggered the attachment of a viral envelope and the cell membrane. After, the genes of the virus entered the T cell and overwhelmed it, took it hostage, and deactivated its ability to protect the body.

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AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH! That damned virus!
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causes permanent organ damage - EVEN IF YOU DON'T SHOW RESPIRATORY DISTRESS!!!
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And it makes you sterile
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causes permanent organ damage - EVEN IF YOU DON'T SHOW RESPIRATORY DISTRESS!!!
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causes permanent organ damage - EVEN IF YOU DON'T SHOW RESPIRATORY DISTRESS!!!
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Care or don't care - no fucks given either way.
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And it makes you sterile
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This I'm totally fine with. Why do people keep bringing innocent children into this shithole nightmare filled with vampires? Fucking stop reproducing already you selfish assholes.
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I knew this 3 months ago and researched, prepared accordingly.

The rest of you are truly fucked.
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And it makes you sterile
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This I'm totally fine with. Why do people keep bringing innocent children into this shithole nightmare filled with vampires? Fucking stop reproducing already you selfish assholes.
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And you are the arbiter of who gets to pass on their genes because....?
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30ish years ago a certain Dr Bihari used something in a medical strategy he called LDN which prevented HIV virus from killing off the Killer T cells and dropping the Killer T cell ie the CD4 cells.

It works pretty good for a whole bunch of immune issues.
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30ish years ago a certain Dr Bihari used something in a medical strategy he called LDN which prevented HIV virus from killing off the Killer T cells and dropping the Killer T cell ie the CD4 cells.

It works pretty good for a whole bunch of immune issues.
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I've used that for many years and also switched to an ACE blocked called losartan.
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Really don't know what to think of these cell lines they use in these things.

MT-2 cells were produced by co-culturing normal human cord leukocytes with leukemic T-cells from a patient with adult T-cell leukemia.
[link to www.aidsreagent.org (secure)]

A3.01 HAT-sensitive derivative of CEM, a human T-cell line derived from the peripheral blood buffy coat of a four-year-old Caucasian female with acute lymphoblastic leukemia.
[link to www.aidsreagent.org (secure)]

How about they take samples from actual patients with covid-19 and then see how they are.

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30ish years ago a certain Dr Bihari used something in a medical strategy he called LDN which prevented HIV virus from killing off the Killer T cells and dropping the Killer T cell ie the CD4 cells.

It works pretty good for a whole bunch of immune issues.
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I've used that for many years and also switched to an ACE blocked called losartan.

In addition to vit C at approximately 5 grams per day in divided doses every 2 hr.
If I Should get viral syndrome Then at least 15 gm or more til symptoms subside, lysosomal or IV.
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30ish years ago a certain Dr Bihari used something in a medical strategy he called LDN which prevented HIV virus from killing off the Killer T cells and dropping the Killer T cell ie the CD4 cells.

It works pretty good for a whole bunch of immune issues.
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shut the fuck up
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30ish years ago a certain Dr Bihari used something in a medical strategy he called LDN which prevented HIV virus from killing off the Killer T cells and dropping the Killer T cell ie the CD4 cells.

It works pretty good for a whole bunch of immune issues.
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shut the fuck up
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Likewise, ya ignorant dickless asshat
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I figured out already that those of us without strong immune systems just don't get better and we get some damage, because that is happening to my mother and me and I'm taking zinc and oil of oregano and lots of tonic water with quinine.


Not to mention lipsomal C, MSM sulfur which makes me feel almost as good as several tonic waters in a row.

It's those HIV proteins.


What I want to know is how to actually replace and repair the C-Cells. The body can replace everything.

And my will is not to allow bastards to harm us, the Gates or China or any of them ever. PERIOD.

I do not give free will for this virus to harm me or my family ever. PERIOD!


And I want to know what works to immediately restore your immune system and stomp this monster out of existence!
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30ish years ago a certain Dr Bihari used something in a medical strategy he called LDN which prevented HIV virus from killing off the Killer T cells and dropping the Killer T cell ie the CD4 cells.

It works pretty good for a whole bunch of immune issues.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437


I've used that for many years and also switched to an ACE blocked called losartan.

In addition to vit C at approximately 5 grams per day in divided doses every 2 hr.
If I Should get viral syndrome Then at least 15 gm or more til symptoms subside, lysosomal or IV.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437


So, to review, high dose vit C is a direct in vivo viricide.
ACE 2 blockers prevent binding of the virus to the target tissues.
LDN prevents HIV killer T cell distruction as HIV destroys Killer T cells, the loss of which is what kills the victims immune system resulting in cancer, parasitic, fungal and viral infection.

Or, you can try your luck with future vaccination made from CANCER cells, What could possibly go wrong?
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Re: The fucking virus not only attacks the ACE2 receptors, but NOW the CD147 T-Cellls as well - ATTACKING THE IMMUNE SYSTEM LIKE HIV!
I figured out already that those of us without strong immune systems just don't get better and we get some damage, because that is happening to my mother and me and I'm taking zinc and oil of oregano and lots of tonic water with quinine.


Not to mention lipsomal C, MSM sulfur which makes me feel almost as good as several tonic waters in a row.

It's those HIV proteins.


What I want to know is how to actually replace and repair the C-Cells. The body can replace everything.

And my will is not to allow bastards to harm us, the Gates or China or any of them ever. PERIOD.

I do not give free will for this virus to harm me or my family ever. PERIOD!


And I want to know what works to immediately restore your immune system and stomp this monster out of existence!
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Killer T cells are directly killed by HIV.
That's why victims die.
Dr Bihari said that with every one of his HIV patients, once they started on his LDN protocol they didn't lose anymore Killer T cells.
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Re: The fucking virus not only attacks the ACE2 receptors, but NOW the CD147 T-Cellls as well - ATTACKING THE IMMUNE SYSTEM LIKE HIV!
I figured out already that those of us without strong immune systems just don't get better and we get some damage, because that is happening to my mother and me and I'm taking zinc and oil of oregano and lots of tonic water with quinine.


Not to mention lipsomal C, MSM sulfur which makes me feel almost as good as several tonic waters in a row.

It's those HIV proteins.


What I want to know is how to actually replace and repair the C-Cells. The body can replace everything.

And my will is not to allow bastards to harm us, the Gates or China or any of them ever. PERIOD.

I do not give free will for this virus to harm me or my family ever. PERIOD!


And I want to know what works to immediately restore your immune system and stomp this monster out of existence!
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Killer T cells are directly killed by HIV.
That's why victims die.
Dr Bihari said that with every one of his HIV patients, once they started on his LDN protocol they didn't lose anymore Killer T cells.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437


That is an anti addiction type drug, not a supplement.

And though I am researching that and now have an over 400 page document on his work, I don't believe the universe shoves pharma at us, but that our T Cells can totally be repaired and replaced, that we are amazing healing machines and Mind over Matter is vastly more important than holograms and nonsense like this world is.

In addition, for every manmade concoction, there has to be natural source things to take that helps and do the same things.
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Re: The fucking virus not only attacks the ACE2 receptors, but NOW the CD147 T-Cellls as well - ATTACKING THE IMMUNE SYSTEM LIKE HIV!
I figured out already that those of us without strong immune systems just don't get better and we get some damage, because that is happening to my mother and me and I'm taking zinc and oil of oregano and lots of tonic water with quinine.


Not to mention lipsomal C, MSM sulfur which makes me feel almost as good as several tonic waters in a row.

It's those HIV proteins.


What I want to know is how to actually replace and repair the C-Cells. The body can replace everything.

And my will is not to allow bastards to harm us, the Gates or China or any of them ever. PERIOD.

I do not give free will for this virus to harm me or my family ever. PERIOD!


And I want to know what works to immediately restore your immune system and stomp this monster out of existence!
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Killer T cells are directly killed by HIV.
That's why victims die.
Dr Bihari said that with every one of his HIV patients, once they started on his LDN protocol they didn't lose anymore Killer T cells.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437


That is an anti addiction type drug, not a supplement.

And though I am researching that and now have an over 400 page document on his work, I don't believe the universe shoves pharma at us, but that our T Cells can totally be repaired and replaced, that we are amazing healing machines and Mind over Matter is vastly more important than holograms and nonsense like this world is.

In addition, for every manmade concoction, there has to be natural source things to take that helps and do the same things.
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You'd be better off limiting the responses to areas you know something about.
You'd be better off listening to someone that's qualified to release new, beneficial information.
But do whatever you please for yourself.
Receptor drugs allow manipulation of receptors.
No, LDN isn't a food supplement.
But it boosts the immune system and can also boost the body's own production of the bodies own pain medication production.
That it's not widely known doesn't make it wrong.
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I figured out already that those of us without strong immune systems just don't get better and we get some damage, because that is happening to my mother and me and I'm taking zinc and oil of oregano and lots of tonic water with quinine.


Not to mention lipsomal C, MSM sulfur which makes me feel almost as good as several tonic waters in a row.

It's those HIV proteins.


What I want to know is how to actually replace and repair the C-Cells. The body can replace everything.

And my will is not to allow bastards to harm us, the Gates or China or any of them ever. PERIOD.

I do not give free will for this virus to harm me or my family ever. PERIOD!


And I want to know what works to immediately restore your immune system and stomp this monster out of existence!
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Killer T cells are directly killed by HIV.
That's why victims die.
Dr Bihari said that with every one of his HIV patients, once they started on his LDN protocol they didn't lose anymore Killer T cells.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437


That is an anti addiction type drug, not a supplement.

And though I am researching that and now have an over 400 page document on his work, I don't believe the universe shoves pharma at us, but that our T Cells can totally be repaired and replaced, that we are amazing healing machines and Mind over Matter is vastly more important than holograms and nonsense like this world is.

In addition, for every manmade concoction, there has to be natural source things to take that helps and do the same things.
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surely vitd3 helps repair and replace t cells, with vitc stopping the virus from overloading the system?

do you really even need LDN for this, or just if someone's up shit creek?
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so i should drink more T? or less?

Is black T better than green? Not being racist.
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I figured out already that those of us without strong immune systems just don't get better and we get some damage, because that is happening to my mother and me and I'm taking zinc and oil of oregano and lots of tonic water with quinine.


Not to mention lipsomal C, MSM sulfur which makes me feel almost as good as several tonic waters in a row.

It's those HIV proteins.


What I want to know is how to actually replace and repair the C-Cells. The body can replace everything.

And my will is not to allow bastards to harm us, the Gates or China or any of them ever. PERIOD.

I do not give free will for this virus to harm me or my family ever. PERIOD!


And I want to know what works to immediately restore your immune system and stomp this monster out of existence!
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Killer T cells are directly killed by HIV.
That's why victims die.
Dr Bihari said that with every one of his HIV patients, once they started on his LDN protocol they didn't lose anymore Killer T cells.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437


That is an anti addiction type drug, not a supplement.

And though I am researching that and now have an over 400 page document on his work, I don't believe the universe shoves pharma at us, but that our T Cells can totally be repaired and replaced, that we are amazing healing machines and Mind over Matter is vastly more important than holograms and nonsense like this world is.

In addition, for every manmade concoction, there has to be natural source things to take that helps and do the same things.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn



surely vitd3 helps repair and replace t cells, with vitc stopping the virus from overloading the system?

do you really even need LDN for this, or just if someone's up shit creek?
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This is what I was asking, what repairs and replaces immune system? Because the point I was making above is that this drug isn't going to be readily available to most and sounds more heavy duty.

We need natural ways and easily accessible ways of doing this.
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