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HOW TO LEGALLY OPT OUT of VACCINATIONS for YOU AND YOUR FAMILY

 
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but if you're vegan or even vegetarian you cannot opt out.
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both options you give are based on the premise that your dr. actually knows whats in the vax. Most dont.
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I suppose that if the doctor could not answer the question definitively then I would consider that reason enough to opt out.
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this is also based on the fact that we will have a choice. if we do the choice could be very simple: take vaccine and rejoin society and buy sell and trade as before or dont take vaccine and sufferand not be able to go to store or work... but who says government is gonna let you keep your kids at that point. You could be considered to be endangering them and the state could take them. all depends on the panic of our society at that point. they just keep slowly turning up the heat. like the frog in pot of water starting to boil.
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I hear ya. I think Trump is hip though to the ill effects of vaccines and is just playing along for now, giving everyone plenty of rope...
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You can politely refuse being vaccinated by doing the following:

1) Ask the doctor if the vaccine contains MRC-5. These are aborted fetus cells and other DNA. If it does: you have the right to refuse.

2) Also ask if there is a chance of an iactrogenic reaction. This is a side effect caused by multiple compounds or medicines that interact on each other. Since any combination of 2 or more medicines ALWAYS have SOME interaction, the doctor would legally HAVE to say: “YES.”

Based on either of these 2 pieces of information, politely tell the doctor that you (and/or your children) are declining to be vaccinated.

All doctors have sworn duty to do no harm (Hippocratic oath). They must honor that.

This is how we can legally (and respectfully) refuse their mandatory services and there is absolutely nothing they can do about it.

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their oath? hah, they don't care a rats ass about that - its only rhetoric to them
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Sad, but often true...
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I am really starting to think that the only way out of this is counterfeit vax certificates. Pay some dr to sign something to say he vaxed when he didnt or something.

They have killed conscientious objection, and now in hospitals they dont even ask you. You wake up from some dental op and the doc says in passing, 'oh we noticed you wernt up to date with your vax so we fixed that for ya!'


We have been going in that way for a very long time even before this.
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True, still, forewarned is forearmed...
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Duly noted.

Also claim Article 6 Sections1 & 3 of the UNESCO STATEMENT of the NUREMBERG CHARTER for BIOETHICS AND HUMAN RIGHTS.

Thanks to Max Igan for the above information.
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Beautiful. Thanks!
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most dr.s have been totally brainwashed by the decade of medical school. If they could, and you were asking these questions, they would probably have you committed to a mental asylum and label you as paranoid schizophrenic.

You have to be really careful these days, my family have been kicked out of school, denied benefits, excluded from neighbourhood activities, spat on by other kids because their parents have told them they are murderers etc..

This is a very very touchy area with most people unfortunately.
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True. However, just submitting like sheep to being vaccinated is not the answer either.
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When it comes time, the legalities won't matter. It will be forced or you die or have to go "underground" so to speak. All we can do is put on the armour of God and the armour in your home. Stand your ground and go out with a fight for your family!
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this is also based on the fact that we will have a choice. if we do the choice could be very simple: take vaccine and rejoin society and buy sell and trade as before or dont take vaccine and sufferand not be able to go to store or work... but who says government is gonna let you keep your kids at that point. You could be considered to be endangering them and the state could take them. all depends on the panic of our society at that point. they just keep slowly turning up the heat. like the frog in pot of water starting to boil.
 Quoting: Jonathan Mama


They will label you crazy if you don't take it.
Doctors can't falsify anything or they will go to jail with you.

And this is why you will have to be chipped. To prove that you were vaccinated. They can't have 10 or 100 or 1,000 people running around with their brains intact.
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Very true. I opted out of vaccinations and blood transfusions during a pre-requisite for major surgery. They sent in at least six doctors to bully me into signing off on it. I refused time and time again.

They threatened...

* to have the surgery canceled.

* to do it voluntarily or they would petition the courts to mandate it.

* with all kinds of "doom and gloom" to scare me into compliance (ie they would have to let me die if something happened during surgery).

* They even called the hospital director to try to have him talk me into it.

I didn't budge. The scariest part is all of them GENUINELY seemed to believe that they were doing "the right thing." It was clear that most of them had never delved into the subject of vaccine related problems or even considered it a possibility.

They postponed my surgery for almost a week in the hopes their scare tactics would work. They didn't.

The scariest part is they could have easily injected me during surgery and I would have no way to stop them or even know that it happened. I have no illusions about what lengths SOME doctors will go when they think they can play god.
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why do men always say "you don't need that"... like the money isn't well spent. because they are the only ones who should make decisions about how to spend money... like on cigarettes and strippers.
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Thank you....good info
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Then they shoot you
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it's "iatrogenic reaction" not the way you spelled it, OP.
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Thanks
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You can politely refuse being vaccinated by doing the following:

1) Ask the doctor if the vaccine contains MRC-5. These are aborted fetus cells and other DNA. If it does: you have the right to refuse.

2) Also ask if there is a chance of an iactrogenic reaction. This is a side effect caused by multiple compounds or medicines that interact on each other. Since any combination of 2 or more medicines ALWAYS have SOME interaction, the doctor would legally HAVE to say: “YES.”

Based on either of these 2 pieces of information, politely tell the doctor that you (and/or your children) are declining to be vaccinated.

All doctors have sworn duty to do no harm (Hippocratic oath). They must honor that.

This is how we can legally (and respectfully) refuse their mandatory services and there is absolutely nothing they can do about it.

Now you know!


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The Hippocratic Oath hasn't had "first, do no harm" in it for years.

But anyway no doctor is going to hold you down and force a needle into you. But in NY state, you'll need vaccination or an approved excuse (religious exemption no longer exists in NY for K-12) to enroll your kid in K-12 school. (Cuomo and the Dem legislature jammed that thru in 1 day last year.)
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Hell, where's that video of the black guy in the hospital that fought the staff and security because he didn't want a blood test?
The more I know, the crazier I appear to be.

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most dr.s have been totally brainwashed by the decade of medical school. If they could, and you were asking these questions, they would probably have you committed to a mental asylum and label you as paranoid schizophrenic.

You have to be really careful these days, my family have been kicked out of school, denied benefits, excluded from neighbourhood activities, spat on by other kids because their parents have told them they are murderers etc..

This is a very very touchy area with most people unfortunately.
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not "people" - projections of the matrix, pretend people
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Noted. Thank you.
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Print this out and hand it to them...
[link to history.nih.gov (secure)]
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Will not work since the doctor won't be performing the injections.
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If someone other than a doctor is trying to vaccinate you, use those reasons for refusal that still apply.
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this is also based on the fact that we will have a choice. if we do the choice could be very simple: take vaccine and rejoin society and buy sell and trade as before or dont take vaccine and sufferand not be able to go to store or work... but who says government is gonna let you keep your kids at that point. You could be considered to be endangering them and the state could take them. all depends on the panic of our society at that point. they just keep slowly turning up the heat. like the frog in pot of water starting to boil.
 Quoting: Jonathan Mama


They will label you crazy if you don't take it.
Doctors can't falsify anything or they will go to jail with you.

And this is why you will have to be chipped. To prove that you were vaccinated. They can't have 10 or 100 or 1,000 people running around with their brains intact.
 Quoting: Half Past Midnight


So you're saying: just be a good little sheep and let them do whatever they want to your God given body?
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"I swear by Apollo the physician, and Aesculapius the surgeon, likewise Hygeia and Panacea, and call all the gods and goddesses to witness, that I will observe and keep this underwritten oath, to the utmost of my power and judgment.
I will reverence my master who taught me the art. Equally with my parents, will I allow him things necessary for his support, and will consider his sons as brothers. I will teach them my art without reward or agreement; and I will impart all my acquirement, instructions, and whatever I know, to my master's children, as to my own; and likewise to all my pupils, who shall bind and tie themselves by a professional oath, but to none else.
With regard to healing the sick, I will devise and order for

Apollo is Satan in Greek.

Hospital and medical errors are the third leading cause of death in the US.

Doctors won’t care that you don’t want to be vaccinated. But your employer will. But doctors will definitely do what they are told.

See why it was revised?
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The question remains: are you going to passively let them inject their poison into you or not?
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this is also based on the fact that we will have a choice. if we do the choice could be very simple: take vaccine and rejoin society and buy sell and trade as before or dont take vaccine and sufferand not be able to go to store or work... but who says government is gonna let you keep your kids at that point. You could be considered to be endangering them and the state could take them. all depends on the panic of our society at that point. they just keep slowly turning up the heat. like the frog in pot of water starting to boil.
 Quoting: Jonathan Mama


I hear ya. I think Trump is hip though to the ill effects of vaccines and is just playing along for now, giving everyone plenty of rope...
 Quoting: davidnv


At this point, I Am beginning to believe that he’s given them enough to hang all of us.
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hippocratic oath ?
huh ?
what ?
LM@0 !
you think that's still out and about ?
LOL !
and what does any OATH mean today to begin with ?

ARE thee p0litical wh0res upholding The Constitution ?
bwaaaaaaaaahahahaaaa
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I am really starting to think that the only way out of this is counterfeit vax certificates. Pay some dr to sign something to say he vaxed when he didnt or something.

They have killed conscientious objection, and now in hospitals they dont even ask you. You wake up from some dental op and the doc says in passing, 'oh we noticed you wernt up to date with your vax so we fixed that for ya!'


We have been going in that way for a very long time even before this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76412843


True, still, forewarned is forearmed...
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I thought the same thing... there will be a black market that pops up around this vaccination bullshit, that offer counterfeit vaccination certificates that would allow you to work travel, etc.

I bet it happens, 100%.
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I don't get technical with them, I just say never have, never will be. be don't let me stop you go ahead. it's not an educated opinion it's just a statement of fact.
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I am building an off-grid treehouse with a great panoramic view of unwanted guests and their vaccines, badges, etc. When I am taken out, the earth's population will actually be reduced by as many as show up within my line of sight.
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I don't get technical with them, I just say never have, never will be. be don't let me stop you go ahead. it's not an educated opinion it's just a statement of fact.
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that sounds like consent
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why are all you tards so scared of vaccines

they dont harm you

they might even save your life
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Do some research. You will discover that the risks far outweigh any advertised supposed benefits.
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What if they're planning to put animal tissue in it?
Is that against some law, apart from mine?
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This is a parody but is essentially correct about what goes into vaccines:

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I'll be using religious free exercise.

All that take the trump administration mandatory vaccination are likely going to die.
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FYI - Trump said that they're working on a possible vaccination - not that they'll be mandatory.





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