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Why would renouncing my USA citizenship automatically mean I'm no longer a citizen of the nation of Florida also? Are the states truly free?

 
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Why would renouncing my USA citizenship automatically mean I'm no longer a citizen of the nation of Florida also? Are the states truly free?
If I renounce my USA federal citizenship the federal government has the right to take away my citizenship from the nation of Florida too? Or was I never a citizen of the nation of Florida to begin with?

Why would I pledge allegiance to the United States and not Florida only? Or why not pledge allegiance to all the allies of the United States also?

This shit doesn't make sense.
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Re: Why would renouncing my USA citizenship automatically mean I'm no longer a citizen of the nation of Florida also? Are the states truly free?
All you have to do is leave.
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Re: Why would renouncing my USA citizenship automatically mean I'm no longer a citizen of the nation of Florida also? Are the states truly free?
If the states were truly sovereign then they could issue their own passports, right? Why would a nation not allow me to travel into it by (permission?) from the sovereign nation of Florida?
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Re: Why would renouncing my USA citizenship automatically mean I'm no longer a citizen of the nation of Florida also? Are the states truly free?
Seems like the states are losing out on a ton of money by letting the union government regulate travel and issue passports. I don't need a passport to travel to another state in the USA, so the states should handle passports.
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Re: Why would renouncing my USA citizenship automatically mean I'm no longer a citizen of the nation of Florida also? Are the states truly free?
great legal, constitutional question abduct
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Re: Why would renouncing my USA citizenship automatically mean I'm no longer a citizen of the nation of Florida also? Are the states truly free?
great legal, constitutional question abduct
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Thanks. I think so too. I hope some lawyers chime in.
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Re: Why would renouncing my USA citizenship automatically mean I'm no longer a citizen of the nation of Florida also? Are the states truly free?
Part of the Constitutional agreements of the USA tells that a State cannot have another state within it. If the union government has a power that overlays all States then they inherently broke their agreement upon signing it. If it doesn't then I can be in the nation of Florida and renounce my citizenship to the union government of Washington DC, since their requirement is that I be in another nation.

Which begs the question, where is the USA government?
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Re: Why would renouncing my USA citizenship automatically mean I'm no longer a citizen of the nation of Florida also? Are the states truly free?
Go south to The Keys and become part of the Conch Republic, I did. It was fun for about 4 to five years. Then it was time to grow up and move on, just like college.
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04/26/2020 01:25 PM
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Re: Why would renouncing my USA citizenship automatically mean I'm no longer a citizen of the nation of Florida also? Are the states truly free?
Florida is not a nation dumbass.

It is a state within a nation.
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Re: Why would renouncing my USA citizenship automatically mean I'm no longer a citizen of the nation of Florida also? Are the states truly free?
Florida is not a nation dumbass.

It is a state within a nation.
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It's a nation, it has its own constitution. I remember when my dad made his own Constitution. He probably posted it here in the late 90's.
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Re: Why would renouncing my USA citizenship automatically mean I'm no longer a citizen of the nation of Florida also? Are the states truly free?
Florida is not a nation dumbass.

It is a state within a nation.
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It's a nation, it has its own constitution. I remember when my dad made his own Constitution. He probably posted it here in the late 90's.
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Re: Why would renouncing my USA citizenship automatically mean I'm no longer a citizen of the nation of Florida also? Are the states truly free?
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Re: Why would renouncing my USA citizenship automatically mean I'm no longer a citizen of the nation of Florida also? Are the states truly free?
Was I born in ALL STATES United or just one of them?
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04/27/2020 12:13 AM
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Re: Why would renouncing my USA citizenship automatically mean I'm no longer a citizen of the nation of Florida also? Are the states truly free?
Florida is not a nation dumbass.

It is a state within a nation.
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It's a nation, it has its own constitution. I remember when my dad made his own Constitution. He probably posted it here in the late 90's.
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You must be from Flat Earth world where states are nations and there is some magic barrier preventing all the water from spilling over the sides.
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Re: Why would renouncing my USA citizenship automatically mean I'm no longer a citizen of the nation of Florida also? Are the states truly free?
If I renounce my USA federal citizenship the federal government has the right to take away my citizenship from the nation of Florida too? Or was I never a citizen of the nation of Florida to begin with?

Why would I pledge allegiance to the United States and not Florida only? Or why not pledge allegiance to all the allies of the United States also?

This shit doesn't make sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78069602


The fact that someone would have to explain that to you tells me that you are a half of bubble off of plumb, and I would wager you have had several run ins with law enforcement.





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