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(OP) User ID: 47991895 United States 05/13/2020 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Flynn Update: Judge Sullivan appoints retired Judge John Gleeson as amicus "to present arguments in opposition to the govt's motion to dismi Sullivan is essentially threatening to retaliate because Flynn exercised his right to move to withdraw the plea, plus giving non-parties rights in the case. Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. |
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(OP) User ID: 47991895 United States 05/13/2020 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Flynn Update: Judge Sullivan appoints retired Judge John Gleeson as amicus "to present arguments in opposition to the govt's motion to dismi Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. |
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(OP) User ID: 47991895 United States 05/13/2020 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Flynn Update: Judge Sullivan appoints retired Judge John Gleeson as amicus "to present arguments in opposition to the govt's motion to dismi But Flynn wasn't charged with Perjury. I don't get it. Is this sullivan guy trying to make this Gleeson guy the NEW AND IMPROVED prosecutor? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78892255 Sullivan is going full activist retard and saying that Flynn committed perjury because he plead guilty and then withdrew claiming he was innocent so he lied. This is insane. Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. |
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User ID: 78112163 United States 05/13/2020 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Flynn Update: Judge Sullivan appoints retired Judge John Gleeson as amicus "to present arguments in opposition to the govt's motion to dismi But Flynn wasn't charged with Perjury. I don't get it. Is this sullivan guy trying to make this Gleeson guy the NEW AND IMPROVED prosecutor? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78892255 Sullivan is going full activist retard and saying that Flynn committed perjury because he plead guilty and then withdrew claiming he was innocent so he lied. This is insane. It's called 'copping a plea' to avoid trial and take a lesser sentence. It's done all the time. In this case he plead guilty because the prosecutor threatened his family and hid evidence that he was innocent (and his law firm before Powell). If he had all the Brady material he never would have plead guilty. The original 302 was lost? (Likely destroyed) Highly illegal activity by the prosecutor. To learn who rules over you, find out who you are not allowed to criticize. When the government is wrong, it's dangerous to be right. The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant. -Robspierre |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 39834772 United States 05/13/2020 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Flynn Update: Judge Sullivan appoints retired Judge John Gleeson as amicus "to present arguments in opposition to the govt's motion to dismi But Flynn wasn't charged with Perjury. I don't get it. Is this sullivan guy trying to make this Gleeson guy the NEW AND IMPROVED prosecutor? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78892255 Sullivan is going full activist retard and saying that Flynn committed perjury because he plead guilty and then withdrew claiming he was innocent so he lied. This is insane. the panic is real! |
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(OP) User ID: 47991895 United States 05/13/2020 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Flynn Update: Judge Sullivan appoints retired Judge John Gleeson as amicus "to present arguments in opposition to the govt's motion to dismi But Flynn wasn't charged with Perjury. I don't get it. Is this sullivan guy trying to make this Gleeson guy the NEW AND IMPROVED prosecutor? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78892255 Sullivan is going full activist retard and saying that Flynn committed perjury because he plead guilty and then withdrew claiming he was innocent so he lied. This is insane. It's called 'copping a plea' to avoid trial and take a lesser sentence. It's done all the time. In this case he plead guilty because the prosecutor threatened his family and hid evidence that he was innocent (and his law firm before Powell). If he had all the Brady material he never would have plead guilty. The original 302 was lost? (Likely destroyed) Highly illegal activity by the prosecutor. Yes! But now Sullivan is trying to sidestep that with holding Gen Flynn in criminal contempt for perjury and sentencing for that - for changing his plea he is saying he perjured himself in his court. This is fucking nuts. Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. |
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User ID: 78112163 United States 05/13/2020 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Flynn Update: Judge Sullivan appoints retired Judge John Gleeson as amicus "to present arguments in opposition to the govt's motion to dismi But Flynn wasn't charged with Perjury. I don't get it. Is this sullivan guy trying to make this Gleeson guy the NEW AND IMPROVED prosecutor? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78892255 Sullivan is going full activist retard and saying that Flynn committed perjury because he plead guilty and then withdrew claiming he was innocent so he lied. This is insane. It's called 'copping a plea' to avoid trial and take a lesser sentence. It's done all the time. In this case he plead guilty because the prosecutor threatened his family and hid evidence that he was innocent (and his law firm before Powell). If he had all the Brady material he never would have plead guilty. The original 302 was lost? (Likely destroyed) Highly illegal activity by the prosecutor. Yes! But now Sullivan is trying to sidestep that with holding Gen Flynn in criminal contempt for perjury and sentencing for that - for changing his plea he is saying he perjured himself in his court. This is fucking nuts. I hear ya. But judges always ask the defendent "How do you plead?" And the defendent replies, "Guilty" Even if he doesn't think he is, just to get the plea bargain. But in this case the prosecutor withheld evidence and even lied to the court and then there are the notes showing the fbi set him up and violated his rights by telling him he didn't need a lawyer and he wasn't under investigation. Are they trying to make Barr step in again and look like a partisan for Trump? Here's a stupid question, where is Lindsey Graham? He could begin impeachment procedings or put this judge under oath at the least. To learn who rules over you, find out who you are not allowed to criticize. When the government is wrong, it's dangerous to be right. The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant. -Robspierre |
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(OP) User ID: 47991895 United States 05/13/2020 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Flynn Update: Judge Sullivan appoints retired Judge John Gleeson as amicus "to present arguments in opposition to the govt's motion to dismi AG Barr has underestimated the danger he has put Flynn in by trying to drop the case based on FBI/DOJ procedure failures. Barr needs to put DOJ into a posture where it wants to find a way to have these charges dismissed, by any means necessary. Right now! Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. |
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(OP) User ID: 47991895 United States 05/13/2020 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Flynn Update: Judge Sullivan appoints retired Judge John Gleeson as amicus "to present arguments in opposition to the govt's motion to dismi ... Quoting: BeenAround® Sullivan is going full activist retard and saying that Flynn committed perjury because he plead guilty and then withdrew claiming he was innocent so he lied. This is insane. It's called 'copping a plea' to avoid trial and take a lesser sentence. It's done all the time. In this case he plead guilty because the prosecutor threatened his family and hid evidence that he was innocent (and his law firm before Powell). If he had all the Brady material he never would have plead guilty. The original 302 was lost? (Likely destroyed) Highly illegal activity by the prosecutor. Yes! But now Sullivan is trying to sidestep that with holding Gen Flynn in criminal contempt for perjury and sentencing for that - for changing his plea he is saying he perjured himself in his court. This is fucking nuts. I hear ya. But judges always ask the defendent "How do you plead?" And the defendent replies, "Guilty" Even if he doesn't think he is, just to get the plea bargain. But in this case the prosecutor withheld evidence and even lied to the court and then there are the notes showing the fbi set him up and violated his rights by telling him he didn't need a lawyer and he wasn't under investigation. Are they trying to make Barr step in again and look like a partisan for Trump? Here's a stupid question, where is Lindsey Graham? He could begin impeachment procedings or put this judge under oath at the least. Pleading guilty when you are innocent in order to get a "lesser charge" plea bargain is understandable, but weighs heavily against you for any subsequent appeals no matter how justified, or how much exculpatory evidence is later found. Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. |
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