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THE KINGDOM OF GOD!!!

 
JESUS CHRIST DISCIPLE

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THE KINGDOM OF GOD!!!
WILL WE RULE AS KINGS ON THE EARTH OR IN HEAVEN???

First let us consider bible verses, passages that indicate we will rule on the earth...

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HERE IT IS CLEAR WE SHALL REIGN ON THE EARTH!!!
Rev 5:10... And have made us kings and priests to our God; And we shall reign on the earth.”

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THE STONE HERE THAT GOD CUT OUT IS HIS KINGDOM... MOUNTAINS IN THE BIBLE REFER TO KINGDOMS, GOVERNMENTS ECT... THE STONE BECAME A MOUNTAIN AND FILLED THE WHOLE EARTH... SO AGAIN ITS CLEAR GOD'S KINGDOM FILLS THE EARTH!!!
Dan 2:34 As you watched, a stone was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay, and crushed them. 35 Then the iron, clay, bronze, silver, and gold were shattered and became like chaff on the threshing floor in summer. The wind carried them away, and not a trace of them could be found. But the stone that had struck the statue became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.

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JESUS CLEARLY TELLS US HE WILL DRINK WINE WITH HIS KINGS IN THE KINGDOM AT A FUTURE TIME... WINE IS OF THE EARTH... GRAPES GROW ON EARTH... SO JESUS WILL DRINK WINE ON THE EARTH WITH US... THIS WOULD INDICATE THE KINGDOM IS ON EARTH WE WILL BE WITH JESUS ON EARTH!!!
Math 26:29 I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom."

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GOD'S KINGDOM NEW JERUSALEM CLEARLY COMES DOWN OUT OF HEAVEN!!!
Rev 21:2 I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the holy city of Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God,

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GOD DWELLS WITH MAN... IF JESUS IS WITH US ON EARTH, THEN IT CAN BE SAID GOD IS WITH US BECAUSE JESUS IS THE IMAGE OF GOD... ANYONE WHO SEES JESUS HAS SEEN THE FATHER... AND GOD'S SPIRIT DWELLS IN US!!!
Rev 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying: “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man, and He will dwell with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them as their God.
1Cor 3:16 Do you not know that you yourselves are God’s temple, and that God’s Spirit dwells in you?
John 14:9 Jesus replied, “Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
Col 1:15 Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation,

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AT THE END OF THE THOUSAND YEARS HUMANS WILL SURROUND THE BELOVED CITY TO DESTROY IT... THE BELOVED CITY IS NEW JERUSALEM THAT CAME DOWN... SO IF HUMANS TRY TO DESTROY THE BELOVED CITY THE KINGDOM, WITH ITS KINGS, IT MUST THEREFORE BE ON EARTH!!!
Rev 20:7 When the thousand years are complete, Satan will be released from his prison, 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to assemble them for battle. Their number is like the sand of the seashore.
9 And they marched across the broad expanse of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. But fire came down from heavena and consumed them.

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WE WILL BE WITH JESUS CHRIST THE LAMB WHEN HE COMES TO EARTH TO FIGHT THE NATIONS!!!
Rev 17:14 They will make war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will triumph over them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and He will be accompanied by His called and chosen and faithful ones.”

So we have seen a lot of evidence indicating we will be Kings on the earth and that God's Kingdom will be on the earth also!!!

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So now let us look at the other side of the coin... Let us consider bible versus, passages that (((might))) indicate we will be in heaven. Let us see what type of body we will have!!!

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MY FATHERS HOUSE IS NOT HEAVEN...
John 14:1 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God;a believe in Me as well. 2 In My Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and welcome you into My presence, so that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.”

Nowhere does the Bible refer to heaven as “My Father’s house.” However, Jesus called the temple “My Father’s house” in John 2:16. “Mansions” translates from a word that means dwelling places. Built around the exterior wall of the temple were many chambers for the priests to use when counseling worshippers privately.

The people hearing Christ were familiar with the temple and therefore would have immediately associated His words in this passage with those chambers. Jesus told His disciples that He was going to prepare a “place” or position of service for them. Where will Christ be when His disciples rejoin Him? He will be on earth, thus fulfilling a prophecy given to the apostles by angels in Acts 1:11. His return also fulfills a multitude of prophecies of the Kingdom of God in the Old and New Testaments.

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IT IS CLEAR HERE THAT WE WILL NOT BE HUMAN ANYMORE... THE WORDS (CAUGHT UP) MEANT UNTIMELY DEATH IN PAULS TIME... WE WILL BE (CAUGHT UP) TO JESUS IN THE (((AIR))) NOT AS A HUMAN...
1 Thes 4:15 By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17 After that, we who are alive and remain will be (((caught up))) together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.

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IT IS VERY CLEAR HERE THAT WE WILL PUT ON A HEAVENLY BODY!!! IT IS VERY CLEAR HERE THAT WE WILL BE CHANGED FROM A HUMAN TO SOMTHING ELSE... WE WILL EVEN BE IMMORTAL!!!
1 Cor 15:42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead: What is sown is perishable; it is raised imperishable. 43 It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised in power. 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
49 And just as we have borne the likeness of the earthly man, so also shall we bear the likeness of the heavenly man.
50 Now I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52 in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must be clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.

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WE WILL BE (LIKE) THE ANGELS IN THE RESPECT THAT THEY DO NOT MARRY...
Math 22:30 For when the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage. In this respect they will be like the angels in heaven.

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HERE IN REVELATION 7... WE ARE STANDING BEFORE THE THRONE AS A GREAT CROWD... WE HAVE THE PHRASE, TERM OR WORDING (STANDING BEFORE THE THRONE)
Rev 7:9 After this I looked and saw a multitude too large to count, from every nation and tribe and people and tongue, (((standing before the throne))) and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.
15 For this reason, ‘They are (((before the throne of God))) and serve Him day and night in His temple; and the One seated on the throne
will spread His tabernacle over them.

Their “standing before the throne” (Greek: e·noʹpi·on tou throʹnou, “in sight of the throne”) of God does not require that they be in heaven. Their position could simply be that they are “in sight” of God, who tells us that from heaven he beholds the sons of men.
Or it also could simply mean they are before God's throne literally in the most holy...
I do not know for sure!!!

HERE BELOW WE HAVE EXAMPLES OF MEN WHILE STILL ON EARTH STANDING BEFORE THE THRONE...(Greek: e·noʹpi·on tou throʹnou, “in sight of the throne”)

Psalms 11:4 The LORD is in His holy temple;
the LORD is on His heavenly throne.
His eyes are watching closely;
they examine the sons of men.

Psalms 100:1 Make a joyful noise to the LORD, all the earth.
2 Serve the LORD with gladness;
come into His presence with joyful songs.

Luke 1:74 deliverance from hostile hands,
that we may serve Him without fear,
75 in holiness and righteousness (((before Him))) all the days of our lives.

Acts 10:33 So I sent for you at once, and it was good of you to come. Now we are all here, waiting (((before))) God to hear the message the Lord has given you.”

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A CHRISTIANS REWARD IS TO EAT THE HIDDEN MANNA... THE HIDDEN MANNA COULD BE REFERING TO THE MANNA IN THE ARK... THE ARK WAS KEPT IN THE MOST HOLY AND GOD'S PRESENCE WAS IN THE MOST HOLY... ONLY THE HIGH PRIEST COULD ENTER!!!
COULD THIS MEAN THAT WE MIGHT HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF ENTERING THE MOST HOLY WERE GOD IS???
Rev 2:17 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who overcomes, I will give the (hidden manna). I will also give him a white stone inscribed with a new name, known only to the one who receives it.

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WHEN WE MEET OUR LORD IN THE AIR ,WE WILL BE TRANSFORMED INTO A BODY LIKE JESUS CHRIST YESHUA!!!
Phil 3:20 But our citizenship is in heaven, and we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who, by the power that enables Him to subject all things to Himself, will transform our lowly bodies to be like His glorious body.

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SO WE HAVE CLEAR EVIDENCE THAT...

1. GOD'S KINGDOM IS ON EARTH...
2. WE WILL RULE AS KINGS ON EARTH...
3. NEW JERUSALEM COMES DOWN...
4. WE GO TO JESUS IN THE AIR THEN COME BACK DOWN WITH HIM TO FIGHT THE NATIONS...

WE ALSO HAVE CLEAR EVIDENCE THAT...

1. WE WILL HAVE A NEW IMORTAL BODY, A SPIRITUAL BODY, LIKE JESUS CHRIST YESHUA HAS...
2. WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ENTER THE MOST HOLY... (EATING HIDDEN MANNA...Rev 2:17).

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SO THE BIG QUESTION IS...WILL WE RULE AS KINGS ON THE EARTH OR IN HEAVEN???

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THE ANSWER (MIGHT) BE FOUND WITH JESUS CHRIST YESHUA AND HIS RESSURECTION... AND THE ANGELS!!!

LET US CONSIDER WHAT HAPPENED AFTER JESUS WAS RESSURECTED???

Luke 24:13 That same day two of them were going to a village called Emmaus, about seven miles from Jerusalem. 14 They were talking with each other about everything that had happened. 15 And as they talked and deliberated, Jesus Himself came up and walked along with them. 16 But their eyes were kept from recognizing Him.

Luke 24:31 Then their eyes were opened and they recognized Jesus—and He disappeared from their sight.
36 While they were describing these events, Jesus Himself stood among them and said, “Peace be with you.” 37 But they were startled and frightened, thinking they had seen a spirit.
38“Why are you troubled,” Jesus asked, “and why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39 Look at My hands and My feet. It is I Myself. Touch Me and see—for a spirit does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.”

Mark 16:12 After this, Jesus appeared in a different form to two of them as they walked along in the country.

John 20:19 It was the first day of the week, and that very evening, while the disciples were together with the doors locked for fear of the get lost, Jesus came and stood among them. “Peace be with you!” He said to them. 20 After He had said this, He showed them His hands and His side.
The disciples rejoiced when they saw the Lord.
27 Then Jesus said to Thomas, “Put your finger here and look at My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe.”

1 Pet 3:18 For Christ also sufferedd for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the spirit, 19 in which He also went and preached to the spirits in prison 20 who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah, while the ark was being built.

JESUS CHRIST YESHUA AFTER HIS RESSURECTION COULD DO THINGS THAT A IMPERFECT NORMAL HUMANS COULD NOT DO!!!

1. HE COULD APPEAR SUDDENLY AND DISAPEAR...
2. HE HAD HOLES IN HIS HANDS AND IN HIS SIDE THAT DID NOT BLEED...
3. HE WENT TO THE SPIRITUAL REALM AND PREACHED TO THE FALLEN ANGELS WHO WERE IMPISONED BY GOD...
4. HE COULD DISGUISE HIS APPEARANCE...
5. HE COULD APPEAR IN A DIFFERENT FORM...
6. HE SAID HE HAD A BODY OF FLESH AND BONE...
7. HE COULD MATERIALIZE ON EARTH AS A MAN AND GO TO THE SPIRITUAL REALM AS A SPIRIT...

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LET US CONSIDER WHAT THE ANGELS CAN DO???

Gen 19:11 And they struck with blindness the men who were at the entrance of the house, both small and great, so that they wore themselves out groping for the door.

Gen 19:12 Then the men said to Lot, “Have you anyone else here? Sons-in-law, sons, daughters, or anyone you have in the city, bring them out of the place. 13 For we are about to destroy this place, because the outcry against its people has become great before the LORD, and the LORD has sent us to destroy it.”
15 As morning dawned, the angels urged Lot, saying, “Up! Take your wife and your two daughters who are here, lest you be swept away in the punishment of the city.”

Gen 32:24 And Jacob was left alone. And a man wrestled with him until the breaking of the day. 25 When the man saw that he did not prevail against Jacob, he touched his hip socket, and Jacob’s hip was put out of joint as he wrestled with him.
28 Then he said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel, for you have striven with God and with men, and have prevailed.” 29 Then Jacob asked him, “Please tell me your name.” But he said, “Why is it that you ask my name?” And there he blessed him. 30 So Jacob called the name of the place Peniel, saying, “For I have seen God face to face, and yet my life has been delivered.”

THE ANGELS CAN...

1. MATERIALIZE IN HUMAN FORM AND DEMATERIALIZE...
2. HAVE POWERS... COULD PUT A HIP OUT OF SOCKET WITH A TOUCH...
3. CAN DESTROY A CITY...
4. CAN MAKE MEN BLIND...

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SO THE BIG QUESTION IS...WILL WE RULE AS KINGS ON THE EARTH OR IN HEAVEN???

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WE DO KNOW WE WILL BE GIVEN THE SAME TYPE OF BODY JESUS HAS!!!
WE DO KNOW GOD'S KINGDOM IS ON EARTH!!!
WE DO KNOW WE RULE AS KINGS ON THE EARTH!!!

BUT...

WILL WE BE ABLE TO APPEAR ON EARTH IN A BODY LIKE JESUS DID???

WILL WE BE ABLE TO APPEAR ON THE EARTHLY REALM THEN DISAPPEAR INTO THE SPIRITUAL REALM LIKE JESUS DID???

WILL WE BE ABLE TO MATERIALIZE AS HUMANS AND DEMATERIALIZE INTO SPIRITS LIKE THE ANGELS DO???

WILL WE HAVE POWERS LIKE JESUS AND THE ANGELS HAVE???

HOW WE WILL RULE ON EARTH? AND IN WHAT FORM BODY WILL WE HAVE ON EARTH? I DO NOT KNOW!!!

GOD DOES NOT REVEAL EVERYTHING TO US...

IT IS WISE NOT TO SPECULATE...

WHEN JESUS CHRIST YESHUA TAKES US INTO THE AIR... THEN WE WILL KNOW!!!

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SOME EXTRA INFO BELOW!!!

According to a prominent strand of Christian teaching, believers in Jesus are awaiting a future in which they will be transported to heaven in an event known as “the Rapture.” The most popular biblical passage used to support this view is Paul’s eschatological discourse in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. Despite common interpretations of this text in terms of an end-time elevation from the earth, the apostle does not describe a “rapture” out of our world. To the contrary, rather than describing believers being herded to heaven, Paul details events that will occur on this earth in tandem with the Messiah’s second coming.

In his presentation of the Parousia, Paul declares, “The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God, and the dead in Messiah will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord” (4:16-17). While some read a “rapture” into these verses, Paul’s language and context argue against such a reading. First, among the Greeks of Paul’s day, “caught up” was used as a euphemism for an untimely death (see Plutarch, Letter to Apollonius 111C-D, 117B); the apostle repurposes not as another word for death, but as a description of eternal life upon the Lord’s return.

Second, the context does not describe Jesus (or his followers) ascending to heaven, but rather coming down to earth on the “clouds” which are common vehicles for divine visitation (e.g., Num 11:25; 12:5; Dan 7:13; Mk 13:26; Rev 10:1). Moreover, Paul’s reference to Yeshua arriving with the sound of a “trumpet” recalls the shofar blast that accompanied God’s descent onto Sinai: “As the sound of the trumpet grew louder… the Lord came down onto Mount Sinai, to the top of the mountain” (Exod 19:19). Once God alighted on this earth, “the Lord called Moses to the top of the mountain, and Moses went up” (19:20). Just as Moses goes up to meet the Lord in the rarified air of the mountaintop, Paul asserts that believers will meet the descending Lord in the “air” —not in a rapture to “heaven”

Finally, just as Moses eventually comes back down the mountain (see Exod 19:25), those who meet the Messiah in the air will also come back down to this earth. Paul’s picture is of an emperor on his way back from a military campaign: in the ancient Roman world, victorious emperors would return to the capital along with a massive train of foreign prisoners, wealth, and other spoils of war. On hearing of the emperor’s return, the Roman citizens would meet their triumphant leader along the way and follow him back into the city as part of the celebratory procession. Paul envisions a similar scenario at Jesus’ second coming: The Messiah will begin his descent on the clouds and his followers will meet him at a midway point in the air so that they can follow their conquering King back down to this earth.

Although it is common in certain Christian circles to read a “rapture” into 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, this conclusion does not account for Paul’s literary and cultural contexts. Instead of describing a portal to heaven, the apostle offers a window into the eternal life that comes with the resurrection of the dead and Jesus’ everlasting reign in the Kingdom of God.

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Re: THE KINGDOM OF GOD!!!
WILL WE RULE AS KINGS ON THE EARTH OR IN HEAVEN???

First let us consider bible verses, passages that indicate we will rule on the earth...

.............................................................​................

HERE IT IS CLEAR WE SHALL REIGN ON THE EARTH!!!
Rev 5:10... And have made us kings and priests to our God; And we shall reign on the earth.”

.............................................................​............

THE STONE HERE THAT GOD CUT OUT IS HIS KINGDOM... MOUNTAINS IN THE BIBLE REFER TO KINGDOMS, GOVERNMENTS ECT... THE STONE BECAME A MOUNTAIN AND FILLED THE WHOLE EARTH... SO AGAIN ITS CLEAR GOD'S KINGDOM FILLS THE EARTH!!!
Dan 2:34 As you watched, a stone was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay, and crushed them. 35 Then the iron, clay, bronze, silver, and gold were shattered and became like chaff on the threshing floor in summer. The wind carried them away, and not a trace of them could be found. But the stone that had struck the statue became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.

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JESUS CLEARLY TELLS US HE WILL DRINK WINE WITH HIS KINGS IN THE KINGDOM AT A FUTURE TIME... WINE IS OF THE EARTH... GRAPES GROW ON EARTH... SO JESUS WILL DRINK WINE ON THE EARTH WITH US... THIS WOULD INDICATE THE KINGDOM IS ON EARTH WE WILL BE WITH JESUS ON EARTH!!!
Math 26:29 I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom."

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GOD'S KINGDOM NEW JERUSALEM CLEARLY COMES DOWN OUT OF HEAVEN!!!
Rev 21:2 I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the holy city of Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God,

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GOD DWELLS WITH MAN... IF JESUS IS WITH US ON EARTH, THEN IT CAN BE SAID GOD IS WITH US BECAUSE JESUS IS THE IMAGE OF GOD... ANYONE WHO SEES JESUS HAS SEEN THE FATHER... AND GOD'S SPIRIT DWELLS IN US!!!
Rev 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying: “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man, and He will dwell with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them as their God.
1Cor 3:16 Do you not know that you yourselves are God’s temple, and that God’s Spirit dwells in you?
John 14:9 Jesus replied, “Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
Col 1:15 Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation,

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AT THE END OF THE THOUSAND YEARS HUMANS WILL SURROUND THE BELOVED CITY TO DESTROY IT... THE BELOVED CITY IS NEW JERUSALEM THAT CAME DOWN... SO IF HUMANS TRY TO DESTROY THE BELOVED CITY THE KINGDOM, WITH ITS KINGS, IT MUST THEREFORE BE ON EARTH!!!
Rev 20:7 When the thousand years are complete, Satan will be released from his prison, 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to assemble them for battle. Their number is like the sand of the seashore.
9 And they marched across the broad expanse of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. But fire came down from heavena and consumed them.

.............................................................​............

WE WILL BE WITH JESUS CHRIST THE LAMB WHEN HE COMES TO EARTH TO FIGHT THE NATIONS!!!
Rev 17:14 They will make war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will triumph over them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and He will be accompanied by His called and chosen and faithful ones.”

So we have seen a lot of evidence indicating we will be Kings on the earth and that God's Kingdom will be on the earth also!!!

.............................................................​............

So now let us look at the other side of the coin... Let us consider bible versus, passages that (((might))) indicate we will be in heaven. Let us see what type of body we will have!!!

.............................................................​............

MY FATHERS HOUSE IS NOT HEAVEN...
John 14:1 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God;a believe in Me as well. 2 In My Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and welcome you into My presence, so that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.”

Nowhere does the Bible refer to heaven as “My Father’s house.” However, Jesus called the temple “My Father’s house” in John 2:16. “Mansions” translates from a word that means dwelling places. Built around the exterior wall of the temple were many chambers for the priests to use when counseling worshippers privately.

The people hearing Christ were familiar with the temple and therefore would have immediately associated His words in this passage with those chambers. Jesus told His disciples that He was going to prepare a “place” or position of service for them. Where will Christ be when His disciples rejoin Him? He will be on earth, thus fulfilling a prophecy given to the apostles by angels in Acts 1:11. His return also fulfills a multitude of prophecies of the Kingdom of God in the Old and New Testaments.

.............................................................​............

IT IS CLEAR HERE THAT WE WILL NOT BE HUMAN ANYMORE... THE WORDS (CAUGHT UP) MEANT UNTIMELY DEATH IN PAULS TIME... WE WILL BE (CAUGHT UP) TO JESUS IN THE (((AIR))) NOT AS A HUMAN...
1 Thes 4:15 By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17 After that, we who are alive and remain will be (((caught up))) together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.

.............................................................​............

IT IS VERY CLEAR HERE THAT WE WILL PUT ON A HEAVENLY BODY!!! IT IS VERY CLEAR HERE THAT WE WILL BE CHANGED FROM A HUMAN TO SOMTHING ELSE... WE WILL EVEN BE IMMORTAL!!!
1 Cor 15:42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead: What is sown is perishable; it is raised imperishable. 43 It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised in power. 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
49 And just as we have borne the likeness of the earthly man, so also shall we bear the likeness of the heavenly man.
50 Now I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52 in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must be clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.

.............................................................​............

WE WILL BE (LIKE) THE ANGELS IN THE RESPECT THAT THEY DO NOT MARRY...
Math 22:30 For when the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage. In this respect they will be like the angels in heaven.

.............................................................​............

HERE IN REVELATION 7... WE ARE STANDING BEFORE THE THRONE AS A GREAT CROWD... WE HAVE THE PHRASE, TERM OR WORDING (STANDING BEFORE THE THRONE)
Rev 7:9 After this I looked and saw a multitude too large to count, from every nation and tribe and people and tongue, (((standing before the throne))) and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.
15 For this reason, ‘They are (((before the throne of God))) and serve Him day and night in His temple; and the One seated on the throne
will spread His tabernacle over them.

Their “standing before the throne” (Greek: e·noʹpi·on tou throʹnou, “in sight of the throne”) of God does not require that they be in heaven. Their position could simply be that they are “in sight” of God, who tells us that from heaven he beholds the sons of men.
Or it also could simply mean they are before God's throne literally in the most holy...
I do not know for sure!!!

HERE BELOW WE HAVE EXAMPLES OF MEN WHILE STILL ON EARTH STANDING BEFORE THE THRONE...(Greek: e·noʹpi·on tou throʹnou, “in sight of the throne”)

Psalms 11:4 The LORD is in His holy temple;
the LORD is on His heavenly throne.
His eyes are watching closely;
they examine the sons of men.

Psalms 100:1 Make a joyful noise to the LORD, all the earth.
2 Serve the LORD with gladness;
come into His presence with joyful songs.

Luke 1:74 deliverance from hostile hands,
that we may serve Him without fear,
75 in holiness and righteousness (((before Him))) all the days of our lives.

Acts 10:33 So I sent for you at once, and it was good of you to come. Now we are all here, waiting (((before))) God to hear the message the Lord has given you.”

.............................................................​............

A CHRISTIANS REWARD IS TO EAT THE HIDDEN MANNA... THE HIDDEN MANNA COULD BE REFERING TO THE MANNA IN THE ARK... THE ARK WAS KEPT IN THE MOST HOLY AND GOD'S PRESENCE WAS IN THE MOST HOLY... ONLY THE HIGH PRIEST COULD ENTER!!!
COULD THIS MEAN THAT WE MIGHT HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF ENTERING THE MOST HOLY WERE GOD IS???
Rev 2:17 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who overcomes, I will give the (hidden manna). I will also give him a white stone inscribed with a new name, known only to the one who receives it.

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WHEN WE MEET OUR LORD IN THE AIR ,WE WILL BE TRANSFORMED INTO A BODY LIKE JESUS CHRIST YESHUA!!!
Phil 3:20 But our citizenship is in heaven, and we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who, by the power that enables Him to subject all things to Himself, will transform our lowly bodies to be like His glorious body.

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SO WE HAVE CLEAR EVIDENCE THAT...

1. GOD'S KINGDOM IS ON EARTH...
2. WE WILL RULE AS KINGS ON EARTH...
3. NEW JERUSALEM COMES DOWN...
4. WE GO TO JESUS IN THE AIR THEN COME BACK DOWN WITH HIM TO FIGHT THE NATIONS...

WE ALSO HAVE CLEAR EVIDENCE THAT...

1. WE WILL HAVE A NEW IMORTAL BODY, A SPIRITUAL BODY, LIKE JESUS CHRIST YESHUA HAS...
2. WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ENTER THE MOST HOLY... (EATING HIDDEN MANNA...Rev 2:17).

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SO THE BIG QUESTION IS...WILL WE RULE AS KINGS ON THE EARTH OR IN HEAVEN???

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THE ANSWER (MIGHT) BE FOUND WITH JESUS CHRIST YESHUA AND HIS RESSURECTION... AND THE ANGELS!!!

LET US CONSIDER WHAT HAPPENED AFTER JESUS WAS RESSURECTED???

Luke 24:13 That same day two of them were going to a village called Emmaus, about seven miles from Jerusalem. 14 They were talking with each other about everything that had happened. 15 And as they talked and deliberated, Jesus Himself came up and walked along with them. 16 But their eyes were kept from recognizing Him.

Luke 24:31 Then their eyes were opened and they recognized Jesus—and He disappeared from their sight.
36 While they were describing these events, Jesus Himself stood among them and said, “Peace be with you.” 37 But they were startled and frightened, thinking they had seen a spirit.
38“Why are you troubled,” Jesus asked, “and why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39 Look at My hands and My feet. It is I Myself. Touch Me and see—for a spirit does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.”

Mark 16:12 After this, Jesus appeared in a different form to two of them as they walked along in the country.

John 20:19 It was the first day of the week, and that very evening, while the disciples were together with the doors locked for fear of the get lost, Jesus came and stood among them. “Peace be with you!” He said to them. 20 After He had said this, He showed them His hands and His side.
The disciples rejoiced when they saw the Lord.
27 Then Jesus said to Thomas, “Put your finger here and look at My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe.”

1 Pet 3:18 For Christ also sufferedd for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the spirit, 19 in which He also went and preached to the spirits in prison 20 who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah, while the ark was being built.

JESUS CHRIST YESHUA AFTER HIS RESSURECTION COULD DO THINGS THAT A IMPERFECT NORMAL HUMANS COULD NOT DO!!!

1. HE COULD APPEAR SUDDENLY AND DISAPEAR...
2. HE HAD HOLES IN HIS HANDS AND IN HIS SIDE THAT DID NOT BLEED...
3. HE WENT TO THE SPIRITUAL REALM AND PREACHED TO THE FALLEN ANGELS WHO WERE IMPISONED BY GOD...
4. HE COULD DISGUISE HIS APPEARANCE...
5. HE COULD APPEAR IN A DIFFERENT FORM...
6. HE SAID HE HAD A BODY OF FLESH AND BONE...
7. HE COULD MATERIALIZE ON EARTH AS A MAN AND GO TO THE SPIRITUAL REALM AS A SPIRIT...

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LET US CONSIDER WHAT THE ANGELS CAN DO???

Gen 19:11 And they struck with blindness the men who were at the entrance of the house, both small and great, so that they wore themselves out groping for the door.

Gen 19:12 Then the men said to Lot, “Have you anyone else here? Sons-in-law, sons, daughters, or anyone you have in the city, bring them out of the place. 13 For we are about to destroy this place, because the outcry against its people has become great before the LORD, and the LORD has sent us to destroy it.”
15 As morning dawned, the angels urged Lot, saying, “Up! Take your wife and your two daughters who are here, lest you be swept away in the punishment of the city.”

Gen 32:24 And Jacob was left alone. And a man wrestled with him until the breaking of the day. 25 When the man saw that he did not prevail against Jacob, he touched his hip socket, and Jacob’s hip was put out of joint as he wrestled with him.
28 Then he said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel, for you have striven with God and with men, and have prevailed.” 29 Then Jacob asked him, “Please tell me your name.” But he said, “Why is it that you ask my name?” And there he blessed him. 30 So Jacob called the name of the place Peniel, saying, “For I have seen God face to face, and yet my life has been delivered.”

THE ANGELS CAN...

1. MATERIALIZE IN HUMAN FORM AND DEMATERIALIZE...
2. HAVE POWERS... COULD PUT A HIP OUT OF SOCKET WITH A TOUCH...
3. CAN DESTROY A CITY...
4. CAN MAKE MEN BLIND...

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SO THE BIG QUESTION IS...WILL WE RULE AS KINGS ON THE EARTH OR IN HEAVEN???

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WE DO KNOW WE WILL BE GIVEN THE SAME TYPE OF BODY JESUS HAS!!!
WE DO KNOW GOD'S KINGDOM IS ON EARTH!!!
WE DO KNOW WE RULE AS KINGS ON THE EARTH!!!

BUT...

WILL WE BE ABLE TO APPEAR ON EARTH IN A BODY LIKE JESUS DID???

WILL WE BE ABLE TO APPEAR ON THE EARTHLY REALM THEN DISAPPEAR INTO THE SPIRITUAL REALM LIKE JESUS DID???

WILL WE BE ABLE TO MATERIALIZE AS HUMANS AND DEMATERIALIZE INTO SPIRITS LIKE THE ANGELS DO???

WILL WE HAVE POWERS LIKE JESUS AND THE ANGELS HAVE???

HOW WE WILL RULE ON EARTH? AND IN WHAT FORM BODY WILL WE HAVE ON EARTH? I DO NOT KNOW!!!

GOD DOES NOT REVEAL EVERYTHING TO US...

IT IS WISE NOT TO SPECULATE...

WHEN JESUS CHRIST YESHUA TAKES US INTO THE AIR... THEN WE WILL KNOW!!!

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SOME EXTRA INFO BELOW!!!

According to a prominent strand of Christian teaching, believers in Jesus are awaiting a future in which they will be transported to heaven in an event known as “the Rapture.” The most popular biblical passage used to support this view is Paul’s eschatological discourse in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. Despite common interpretations of this text in terms of an end-time elevation from the earth, the apostle does not describe a “rapture” out of our world. To the contrary, rather than describing believers being herded to heaven, Paul details events that will occur on this earth in tandem with the Messiah’s second coming.

In his presentation of the Parousia, Paul declares, “The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God, and the dead in Messiah will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord” (4:16-17). While some read a “rapture” into these verses, Paul’s language and context argue against such a reading. First, among the Greeks of Paul’s day, “caught up” was used as a euphemism for an untimely death (see Plutarch, Letter to Apollonius 111C-D, 117B); the apostle repurposes not as another word for death, but as a description of eternal life upon the Lord’s return.

Second, the context does not describe Jesus (or his followers) ascending to heaven, but rather coming down to earth on the “clouds” which are common vehicles for divine visitation (e.g., Num 11:25; 12:5; Dan 7:13; Mk 13:26; Rev 10:1). Moreover, Paul’s reference to Yeshua arriving with the sound of a “trumpet” recalls the shofar blast that accompanied God’s descent onto Sinai: “As the sound of the trumpet grew louder… the Lord came down onto Mount Sinai, to the top of the mountain” (Exod 19:19). Once God alighted on this earth, “the Lord called Moses to the top of the mountain, and Moses went up” (19:20). Just as Moses goes up to meet the Lord in the rarified air of the mountaintop, Paul asserts that believers will meet the descending Lord in the “air” —not in a rapture to “heaven”

Finally, just as Moses eventually comes back down the mountain (see Exod 19:25), those who meet the Messiah in the air will also come back down to this earth. Paul’s picture is of an emperor on his way back from a military campaign: in the ancient Roman world, victorious emperors would return to the capital along with a massive train of foreign prisoners, wealth, and other spoils of war. On hearing of the emperor’s return, the Roman citizens would meet their triumphant leader along the way and follow him back into the city as part of the celebratory procession. Paul envisions a similar scenario at Jesus’ second coming: The Messiah will begin his descent on the clouds and his followers will meet him at a midway point in the air so that they can follow their conquering King back down to this earth.

Although it is common in certain Christian circles to read a “rapture” into 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, this conclusion does not account for Paul’s literary and cultural contexts. Instead of describing a portal to heaven, the apostle offers a window into the eternal life that comes with the resurrection of the dead and Jesus’ everlasting reign in the Kingdom of God.
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Re: THE KINGDOM OF GOD!!!
WILL WE RULE AS KINGS ON THE EARTH OR IN HEAVEN???

First let us consider bible verses, passages that indicate we will rule on the earth...

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HERE IT IS CLEAR WE SHALL REIGN ON THE EARTH!!!
Rev 5:10... And have made us kings and priests to our God; And we shall reign on the earth.”

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THE STONE HERE THAT GOD CUT OUT IS HIS KINGDOM... MOUNTAINS IN THE BIBLE REFER TO KINGDOMS, GOVERNMENTS ECT... THE STONE BECAME A MOUNTAIN AND FILLED THE WHOLE EARTH... SO AGAIN ITS CLEAR GOD'S KINGDOM FILLS THE EARTH!!!
Dan 2:34 As you watched, a stone was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay, and crushed them. 35 Then the iron, clay, bronze, silver, and gold were shattered and became like chaff on the threshing floor in summer. The wind carried them away, and not a trace of them could be found. But the stone that had struck the statue became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.

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JESUS CLEARLY TELLS US HE WILL DRINK WINE WITH HIS KINGS IN THE KINGDOM AT A FUTURE TIME... WINE IS OF THE EARTH... GRAPES GROW ON EARTH... SO JESUS WILL DRINK WINE ON THE EARTH WITH US... THIS WOULD INDICATE THE KINGDOM IS ON EARTH WE WILL BE WITH JESUS ON EARTH!!!
Math 26:29 I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom."

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GOD'S KINGDOM NEW JERUSALEM CLEARLY COMES DOWN OUT OF HEAVEN!!!
Rev 21:2 I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the holy city of Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God,

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GOD DWELLS WITH MAN... IF JESUS IS WITH US ON EARTH, THEN IT CAN BE SAID GOD IS WITH US BECAUSE JESUS IS THE IMAGE OF GOD... ANYONE WHO SEES JESUS HAS SEEN THE FATHER... AND GOD'S SPIRIT DWELLS IN US!!!
Rev 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying: “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man, and He will dwell with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them as their God.
1Cor 3:16 Do you not know that you yourselves are God’s temple, and that God’s Spirit dwells in you?
John 14:9 Jesus replied, “Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
Col 1:15 Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation,

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AT THE END OF THE THOUSAND YEARS HUMANS WILL SURROUND THE BELOVED CITY TO DESTROY IT... THE BELOVED CITY IS NEW JERUSALEM THAT CAME DOWN... SO IF HUMANS TRY TO DESTROY THE BELOVED CITY THE KINGDOM, WITH ITS KINGS, IT MUST THEREFORE BE ON EARTH!!!
Rev 20:7 When the thousand years are complete, Satan will be released from his prison, 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to assemble them for battle. Their number is like the sand of the seashore.
9 And they marched across the broad expanse of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. But fire came down from heavena and consumed them.

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WE WILL BE WITH JESUS CHRIST THE LAMB WHEN HE COMES TO EARTH TO FIGHT THE NATIONS!!!
Rev 17:14 They will make war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will triumph over them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and He will be accompanied by His called and chosen and faithful ones.”

So we have seen a lot of evidence indicating we will be Kings on the earth and that God's Kingdom will be on the earth also!!!

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So now let us look at the other side of the coin... Let us consider bible versus, passages that (((might))) indicate we will be in heaven. Let us see what type of body we will have!!!

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MY FATHERS HOUSE IS NOT HEAVEN...
John 14:1 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God;a believe in Me as well. 2 In My Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and welcome you into My presence, so that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.”

Nowhere does the Bible refer to heaven as “My Father’s house.” However, Jesus called the temple “My Father’s house” in John 2:16. “Mansions” translates from a word that means dwelling places. Built around the exterior wall of the temple were many chambers for the priests to use when counseling worshippers privately.

The people hearing Christ were familiar with the temple and therefore would have immediately associated His words in this passage with those chambers. Jesus told His disciples that He was going to prepare a “place” or position of service for them. Where will Christ be when His disciples rejoin Him? He will be on earth, thus fulfilling a prophecy given to the apostles by angels in Acts 1:11. His return also fulfills a multitude of prophecies of the Kingdom of God in the Old and New Testaments.

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IT IS CLEAR HERE THAT WE WILL NOT BE HUMAN ANYMORE... THE WORDS (CAUGHT UP) MEANT UNTIMELY DEATH IN PAULS TIME... WE WILL BE (CAUGHT UP) TO JESUS IN THE (((AIR))) NOT AS A HUMAN...
1 Thes 4:15 By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17 After that, we who are alive and remain will be (((caught up))) together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.

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IT IS VERY CLEAR HERE THAT WE WILL PUT ON A HEAVENLY BODY!!! IT IS VERY CLEAR HERE THAT WE WILL BE CHANGED FROM A HUMAN TO SOMTHING ELSE... WE WILL EVEN BE IMMORTAL!!!
1 Cor 15:42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead: What is sown is perishable; it is raised imperishable. 43 It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised in power. 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
49 And just as we have borne the likeness of the earthly man, so also shall we bear the likeness of the heavenly man.
50 Now I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52 in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must be clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.

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WE WILL BE (LIKE) THE ANGELS IN THE RESPECT THAT THEY DO NOT MARRY...
Math 22:30 For when the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage. In this respect they will be like the angels in heaven.

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HERE IN REVELATION 7... WE ARE STANDING BEFORE THE THRONE AS A GREAT CROWD... WE HAVE THE PHRASE, TERM OR WORDING (STANDING BEFORE THE THRONE)
Rev 7:9 After this I looked and saw a multitude too large to count, from every nation and tribe and people and tongue, (((standing before the throne))) and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.
15 For this reason, ‘They are (((before the throne of God))) and serve Him day and night in His temple; and the One seated on the throne
will spread His tabernacle over them.

Their “standing before the throne” (Greek: e·noʹpi·on tou throʹnou, “in sight of the throne”) of God does not require that they be in heaven. Their position could simply be that they are “in sight” of God, who tells us that from heaven he beholds the sons of men.
Or it also could simply mean they are before God's throne literally in the most holy...
I do not know for sure!!!

HERE BELOW WE HAVE EXAMPLES OF MEN WHILE STILL ON EARTH STANDING BEFORE THE THRONE...(Greek: e·noʹpi·on tou throʹnou, “in sight of the throne”)

Psalms 11:4 The LORD is in His holy temple;
the LORD is on His heavenly throne.
His eyes are watching closely;
they examine the sons of men.

Psalms 100:1 Make a joyful noise to the LORD, all the earth.
2 Serve the LORD with gladness;
come into His presence with joyful songs.

Luke 1:74 deliverance from hostile hands,
that we may serve Him without fear,
75 in holiness and righteousness (((before Him))) all the days of our lives.

Acts 10:33 So I sent for you at once, and it was good of you to come. Now we are all here, waiting (((before))) God to hear the message the Lord has given you.”

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A CHRISTIANS REWARD IS TO EAT THE HIDDEN MANNA... THE HIDDEN MANNA COULD BE REFERING TO THE MANNA IN THE ARK... THE ARK WAS KEPT IN THE MOST HOLY AND GOD'S PRESENCE WAS IN THE MOST HOLY... ONLY THE HIGH PRIEST COULD ENTER!!!
COULD THIS MEAN THAT WE MIGHT HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF ENTERING THE MOST HOLY WERE GOD IS???
Rev 2:17 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who overcomes, I will give the (hidden manna). I will also give him a white stone inscribed with a new name, known only to the one who receives it.

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WHEN WE MEET OUR LORD IN THE AIR ,WE WILL BE TRANSFORMED INTO A BODY LIKE JESUS CHRIST YESHUA!!!
Phil 3:20 But our citizenship is in heaven, and we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who, by the power that enables Him to subject all things to Himself, will transform our lowly bodies to be like His glorious body.

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SO WE HAVE CLEAR EVIDENCE THAT...

1. GOD'S KINGDOM IS ON EARTH...
2. WE WILL RULE AS KINGS ON EARTH...
3. NEW JERUSALEM COMES DOWN...
4. WE GO TO JESUS IN THE AIR THEN COME BACK DOWN WITH HIM TO FIGHT THE NATIONS...

WE ALSO HAVE CLEAR EVIDENCE THAT...

1. WE WILL HAVE A NEW IMORTAL BODY, A SPIRITUAL BODY, LIKE JESUS CHRIST YESHUA HAS...
2. WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ENTER THE MOST HOLY... (EATING HIDDEN MANNA...Rev 2:17).

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SO THE BIG QUESTION IS...WILL WE RULE AS KINGS ON THE EARTH OR IN HEAVEN???

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THE ANSWER (MIGHT) BE FOUND WITH JESUS CHRIST YESHUA AND HIS RESSURECTION... AND THE ANGELS!!!

LET US CONSIDER WHAT HAPPENED AFTER JESUS WAS RESSURECTED???

Luke 24:13 That same day two of them were going to a village called Emmaus, about seven miles from Jerusalem. 14 They were talking with each other about everything that had happened. 15 And as they talked and deliberated, Jesus Himself came up and walked along with them. 16 But their eyes were kept from recognizing Him.

Luke 24:31 Then their eyes were opened and they recognized Jesus—and He disappeared from their sight.
36 While they were describing these events, Jesus Himself stood among them and said, “Peace be with you.” 37 But they were startled and frightened, thinking they had seen a spirit.
38“Why are you troubled,” Jesus asked, “and why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39 Look at My hands and My feet. It is I Myself. Touch Me and see—for a spirit does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.”

Mark 16:12 After this, Jesus appeared in a different form to two of them as they walked along in the country.

John 20:19 It was the first day of the week, and that very evening, while the disciples were together with the doors locked for fear of the get lost, Jesus came and stood among them. “Peace be with you!” He said to them. 20 After He had said this, He showed them His hands and His side.
The disciples rejoiced when they saw the Lord.
27 Then Jesus said to Thomas, “Put your finger here and look at My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe.”

1 Pet 3:18 For Christ also sufferedd for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the spirit, 19 in which He also went and preached to the spirits in prison 20 who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah, while the ark was being built.

JESUS CHRIST YESHUA AFTER HIS RESSURECTION COULD DO THINGS THAT A IMPERFECT NORMAL HUMANS COULD NOT DO!!!

1. HE COULD APPEAR SUDDENLY AND DISAPEAR...
2. HE HAD HOLES IN HIS HANDS AND IN HIS SIDE THAT DID NOT BLEED...
3. HE WENT TO THE SPIRITUAL REALM AND PREACHED TO THE FALLEN ANGELS WHO WERE IMPISONED BY GOD...
4. HE COULD DISGUISE HIS APPEARANCE...
5. HE COULD APPEAR IN A DIFFERENT FORM...
6. HE SAID HE HAD A BODY OF FLESH AND BONE...
7. HE COULD MATERIALIZE ON EARTH AS A MAN AND GO TO THE SPIRITUAL REALM AS A SPIRIT...

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LET US CONSIDER WHAT THE ANGELS CAN DO???

Gen 19:11 And they struck with blindness the men who were at the entrance of the house, both small and great, so that they wore themselves out groping for the door.

Gen 19:12 Then the men said to Lot, “Have you anyone else here? Sons-in-law, sons, daughters, or anyone you have in the city, bring them out of the place. 13 For we are about to destroy this place, because the outcry against its people has become great before the LORD, and the LORD has sent us to destroy it.”
15 As morning dawned, the angels urged Lot, saying, “Up! Take your wife and your two daughters who are here, lest you be swept away in the punishment of the city.”

Gen 32:24 And Jacob was left alone. And a man wrestled with him until the breaking of the day. 25 When the man saw that he did not prevail against Jacob, he touched his hip socket, and Jacob’s hip was put out of joint as he wrestled with him.
28 Then he said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel, for you have striven with God and with men, and have prevailed.” 29 Then Jacob asked him, “Please tell me your name.” But he said, “Why is it that you ask my name?” And there he blessed him. 30 So Jacob called the name of the place Peniel, saying, “For I have seen God face to face, and yet my life has been delivered.”

THE ANGELS CAN...

1. MATERIALIZE IN HUMAN FORM AND DEMATERIALIZE...
2. HAVE POWERS... COULD PUT A HIP OUT OF SOCKET WITH A TOUCH...
3. CAN DESTROY A CITY...
4. CAN MAKE MEN BLIND...

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SO THE BIG QUESTION IS...WILL WE RULE AS KINGS ON THE EARTH OR IN HEAVEN???

.............................................................​................

WE DO KNOW WE WILL BE GIVEN THE SAME TYPE OF BODY JESUS HAS!!!
WE DO KNOW GOD'S KINGDOM IS ON EARTH!!!
WE DO KNOW WE RULE AS KINGS ON THE EARTH!!!

BUT...

WILL WE BE ABLE TO APPEAR ON EARTH IN A BODY LIKE JESUS DID???

WILL WE BE ABLE TO APPEAR ON THE EARTHLY REALM THEN DISAPPEAR INTO THE SPIRITUAL REALM LIKE JESUS DID???

WILL WE BE ABLE TO MATERIALIZE AS HUMANS AND DEMATERIALIZE INTO SPIRITS LIKE THE ANGELS DO???

WILL WE HAVE POWERS LIKE JESUS AND THE ANGELS HAVE???

HOW WE WILL RULE ON EARTH? AND IN WHAT FORM BODY WILL WE HAVE ON EARTH? I DO NOT KNOW!!!

GOD DOES NOT REVEAL EVERYTHING TO US...

IT IS WISE NOT TO SPECULATE...

WHEN JESUS CHRIST YESHUA TAKES US INTO THE AIR... THEN WE WILL KNOW!!!

.............................................................​................

SOME EXTRA INFO BELOW!!!

According to a prominent strand of Christian teaching, believers in Jesus are awaiting a future in which they will be transported to heaven in an event known as “the Rapture.” The most popular biblical passage used to support this view is Paul’s eschatological discourse in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. Despite common interpretations of this text in terms of an end-time elevation from the earth, the apostle does not describe a “rapture” out of our world. To the contrary, rather than describing believers being herded to heaven, Paul details events that will occur on this earth in tandem with the Messiah’s second coming.

In his presentation of the Parousia, Paul declares, “The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God, and the dead in Messiah will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord” (4:16-17). While some read a “rapture” into these verses, Paul’s language and context argue against such a reading. First, among the Greeks of Paul’s day, “caught up” was used as a euphemism for an untimely death (see Plutarch, Letter to Apollonius 111C-D, 117B); the apostle repurposes not as another word for death, but as a description of eternal life upon the Lord’s return.

Second, the context does not describe Jesus (or his followers) ascending to heaven, but rather coming down to earth on the “clouds” which are common vehicles for divine visitation (e.g., Num 11:25; 12:5; Dan 7:13; Mk 13:26; Rev 10:1). Moreover, Paul’s reference to Yeshua arriving with the sound of a “trumpet” recalls the shofar blast that accompanied God’s descent onto Sinai: “As the sound of the trumpet grew louder… the Lord came down onto Mount Sinai, to the top of the mountain” (Exod 19:19). Once God alighted on this earth, “the Lord called Moses to the top of the mountain, and Moses went up” (19:20). Just as Moses goes up to meet the Lord in the rarified air of the mountaintop, Paul asserts that believers will meet the descending Lord in the “air” —not in a rapture to “heaven”

Finally, just as Moses eventually comes back down the mountain (see Exod 19:25), those who meet the Messiah in the air will also come back down to this earth. Paul’s picture is of an emperor on his way back from a military campaign: in the ancient Roman world, victorious emperors would return to the capital along with a massive train of foreign prisoners, wealth, and other spoils of war. On hearing of the emperor’s return, the Roman citizens would meet their triumphant leader along the way and follow him back into the city as part of the celebratory procession. Paul envisions a similar scenario at Jesus’ second coming: The Messiah will begin his descent on the clouds and his followers will meet him at a midway point in the air so that they can follow their conquering King back down to this earth.

Although it is common in certain Christian circles to read a “rapture” into 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, this conclusion does not account for Paul’s literary and cultural contexts. Instead of describing a portal to heaven, the apostle offers a window into the eternal life that comes with the resurrection of the dead and Jesus’ everlasting reign in the Kingdom of God.
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Jacobs ladder is your spinal column, the Ark is your skull.

Manna is when you raise the chrism oil to your pineal/pituitary glands.

Modern-day scholars believe that the foundational teachings of Esoteric Christianity were held secret by the Essenes and the early Christians until publicly presented to the world in the early 20th century in an effort to establish a future universal religion as mankind, with a more developed mind and will, walk forward to the understandings of universal Brotherhood. Its central aim is to aid each human being in his/her task of developing the "Golden Wedding Garment": the Christ Within that must be born.

The Christ Within is defined as Paul of Tarsus' "soma psuhicon", meaning soul body, needed by each individual in order to be able to enter and permanently live in the next Sixth Epoch's etheric environment (new heavens and a new earth): the New Galilee.

These teachings are also believed to enable each individual to understand the mystery of life, that is, the mystery of death, eliminating the fear of it and are preparing human beings for in due time, as the Sun enters Aquarius by precession, to start seeing among themselves their true inner being.

This is done according to the words "For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad." (Luke 8:17; KJV) and it is knowledge that had to wait its own time to be grasped by our own mind, as Christ spoke: "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now." (John 16:12).

It is also referred in Esoteric Christianity that there are, and always have been, those being prepared towards Initiation - into the Lesser Mysteries, the secrets concerning the Science of Life and Being, in the spiritual worlds by the Hierophants of the seven invisible Lesser Mystery Schools - through harmonious development of the mind (occultist) and the heart (mystic) in a spirit of unselfishness service to mankind and an all-embracing altruism.

According to Max Heindel the door of a genuine Mystery School is not unlocked by a golden key, but is only opened as a reward for meritorious service to humanity. "The true pupil of any Mystery School is far too modest to advertise the fact, he will scorn all titles or honors from men, he will have no regard for riches save the riches of love given to him by those whom it becomes his privilege to help and teach."

Biblical Foundations

The Way: "Ego sum Via, Veritas et Vita"

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (John 14:6; KJV)

The Esoteric Knowledge

He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. (Matthew 13:11)

And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand. (Luke 8:10)

The Mystic Living (the heart)

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. (Matthew 16:24)

And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. (Luke 9:23)

The Occult Study (the mind)

And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 18:3)

Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein. (Mark 10:15)
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Anoint yourself and activate your crystalline 777 light body.

The 2nd coming is YOU realizing you can ALL become the christ and reach the higher christ/buddha consciousness... christos means oil in greek .. its a cerebral spinal fluid that you must rise up your 33 vertabrae (jesus lived 33 years) by doing kundalini meditation when the moon is in your sun sign.. abstaining from all sex/masturbation, acidic foods and being in pure thoughts.. nobody is coming to save you, you must save yourself.. this is the secret of all secrets, the holy grail, fountain of youth.. how you can live hundreds/thousands of years if not forever .. and unlock 100% of the mind with both hemispheres of the brain working together.. all new blood unleashes into the body curing ailments .. and when the oil hits the pineal and pituitary glands flowing "milk and honey" is released... dmt and serotonin .. so you will always be happy and feeling loving if you do this properly every month. Stop wasting your sexual energy on sex and masturbation when this is the ultimate sexual alchemy where you unite the divine masculine with the divine feminene..

Matthew 6:22 - The light of the body is the eye: if. therefore thine eye be single, thy. whole body shall be full of light. (Single eye is the third eye, whole body full of light = crystalline light body activated)

The Bible is a manual about physiological regeneration and astrology, written in code (SEE Gematria), providing us a path to enlightenment (atonement). 99% of the people believe the Bible is a historical book to be taken literally. It’s not, it’s about you and YOUR path to enlightenment. You are the Protagonist. No one’s coming to save you. All of these parables were written about and for you.



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INTERNAL SALVATION – CHRIST SEED – OIL OF WISE VIRGINS

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This oil, if not wasted, illumines the body – the lamp. It is the oil that gives consciousness, and thus light. When it’s dried up, people die. When people are ageing, it means that oil is being produced in lesser amount until it’s not produced at all, and then death comes.

When plenty of oil circulates in the body:

The mood is stable and there is no irritability, fear or nervousness.
Digestion and assimilation are perfect.
Hearing and eyesight are good.
Teeth don’t decay.
A person is able to get good sleep.
A person doesn’t require any medical drug.
There’s no need of much food.
There’s no desire for stimulants of any sort.
Poisons are neutralized, the body itself fights cancerous cells and other diseases.
A person doesn’t want to abuse himself in any way.
The body completely heals from earlier self-abuse.
There is immunity from colds and probably other infectious diseases.
Youthful vigor is present and the frailties of old age are absent.
Vitality feels unlimited.







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TAKES US INTO THE AIR

into the air

in to the air

the heir apparent?

in as in drawn in brought unto

"descend" from

like from droplets of air

materializing unto this realm

Not from "above" from within

Heart usually <3 ;-)

thank you <3
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This bible is not a code for astrology, you idiot!!!

1 John 4:2-6

"This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood."


2 Timothy 4:3-4

For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths."
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*my comments above are directed at the person from Chile
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To answer OP's question... I'm not really sure.
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QUOTE:

The Bible is a manual about physiological regeneration and astrology, written in code (SEE Gematria), providing us a path to enlightenment (atonement). 99% of the people believe the Bible is a historical book to be taken literally. It’s not, it’s about you and YOUR path to enlightenment. You are the Protagonist. No one’s coming to save you. All of these parables were written about and for you.

END QUOTE
quoting dude from Chile^


Ezekiel 13:9

"My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and utter lying divinations. They will not belong to the council of my people or be listed in the records of Israel, nor will they enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign LORD."

Titus 1:15-16

"To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted. They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good. "





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