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Message Subject Defending the Pre-trib rapture **** New and Improved
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It is our responsibility to keep our house in order, when not done and judgment results, it has been God's way to destroy the good along with the bad, the rapture would be counter to that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74897465


Yes

Paul said God's seal is the Holy Spirit. The OT said it his instructions. The The NT said God's seal is his Holy Spirit which makes sense since the Holy Spirit teaches you how to follow God's instructions. God told Ezekiel He would give Israel the Holy Spirit to teach them his instructions too.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Yes


You will also notice that Satan/the beast has a mark/seal also similar to God's. Head and hands in order to buy. Not exactly sure what it is but it is similar. Could be RFID but whatever it is I will keep an eye out for it. You do not want to take the mark of the beast.

Deuteronomy 6:8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise

Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Indeed, this is true.

If you read about the Woman/144k you will see the 144K come back with Christ. I would submit this remnant of Israel is the living stones/bride of Christ. Who comes back with Christ? The 144K. the pretribbers believe they or the whole church is the Bride of Christ but would a husband leave his bride? Who show up with the Christ in the end times? The 144K.

Revelation 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

Revelation 14:4-6 4T hese are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

Christ was also the Firstfruits to be resurrected/raptured. I submit this is his Bride. Remember Christ also said along with the Bride there are the guests and friends of the Bridegroom. All are friends and most probably saved but dear to his heart is his Bride.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Interesting. I will have to study this.


You are missing the "AND"! Where is Jesus that we can stand before Him at the beginning? Not on earth.
 Quoting: **Watcher**


You are adding context that is not there. Many times there are 2 phrases in prophesy that have thousands of years and miles between.

I submit we are taken/raptured/resurrected to Christ after the tribulation but before God's wrath. We are not destined for wrath. Then Christ comes down.
 Quoting: Achduke7


I believe that the bride comes with him to cleanse the Earth. Bizarre as it may seem, as far as I can tell, the cleansing of the earth is the consummation.
 
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