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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75543000 United States 06/03/2020 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's interesting for the first time in USSR/Russia's standoff with the west they probably have technological superiority in weapons of mass destruction. They could probably launch an effective first strike. But now they have the same problem the west has had for decades. What the use of having these great weapons. We invested billions into having slightly better stuff than the other guy but its useless unless you use it, and if you use it all hell breaks lose. Putin kinda fell for the race to the bottom disguised as a race to the top. Yeah nobody will fuck with russia, but with so many cheaper mobile launchers nobody was going to start with them anyway. Even with a missile shield the west was never going to start a war with russia. So they just invested in all these cool toys that are too dangerous to use. We've been doing that for years. Top of the mountain syndrome, once you get there its pretty uneventful. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78987170 United States 06/03/2020 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The new policy authorises Moscow to use nuclear weapons in the event of a conventional attack on key military and government infrastructure. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75763337 President Vladimir Putin has endorsed Russia’s nuclear deterrent policy which allows him to use atomic weapons in response to a conventional strike targeting the nation’s critical government and military infrastructure. By including a non-nuclear attack as a possible trigger for Russian nuclear retaliation, the document appears to send a warning signal to the US. The new expanded wording reflects Russian concerns about the development of prospective weapons that could give Washington the capability to knock out key military assets and government facilities without resorting to atomic weapons. In line with Russian military doctrine, the new document reaffirms that the country could use nuclear weapons in response to a nuclear attack or an aggression involving conventional weapons that “threatens the very existence of the state”. But the policy document now also offers a detailed description of situations that could trigger the use of nuclear weapons. [link to www.lbcnews.co.uk (secure)] DOOM ON Vladimir, how do you expect to deliver the brown gravy with a drone? |
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User ID: 77674534 United States 06/03/2020 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It makes me laugh how all of these countries seem to think that the United States seems to want to do nothing but invade, invade, invade. We couldn't give two shits about these countries so the posturing is purely political. We know that invading anyone like Russia or China would be a very big mistake so seeing those blowhards say “we’ll defend ourselves with nukes if you invade us” is utterly ridiculous. There’s no gain in starting a war that ends in mutually assured destruction. Yes, there are powers that be who would love to see the world burn but they are not in the majority. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75543000 United States 06/03/2020 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It makes me laugh how all of these countries seem to think that the United States seems to want to do nothing but invade, invade, invade. We couldn't give two shits about these countries so the posturing is purely political. We know that invading anyone like Russia or China would be a very big mistake so seeing those blowhards say “we’ll defend ourselves with nukes if you invade us” is utterly ridiculous. There’s no gain in starting a war that ends in mutually assured destruction. Yes, there are powers that be who would love to see the world burn but they are not in the majority. Quoting: Nighthaven This. A lot of world leaders would be hurting if the USA boogeyman went away. There's no appetite for even a small country invasion anymore. IF you think having the USA a sole superpower sucked, wait until China is calling the shots. The East Asians don't feel guilt or remorse for other ethnicities. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75543000 United States 06/03/2020 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It makes me laugh how all of these countries seem to think that the United States seems to want to do nothing but invade, invade, invade. We couldn't give two shits about these countries so the posturing is purely political. We know that invading anyone like Russia or China would be a very big mistake so seeing those blowhards say “we’ll defend ourselves with nukes if you invade us” is utterly ridiculous. There’s no gain in starting a war that ends in mutually assured destruction. Yes, there are powers that be who would love to see the world burn but they are not in the majority. Quoting: Nighthaven This. A lot of world leaders would be hurting if the USA boogeyman went away. There's no appetite for even a small country invasion anymore. IF you think having the USA a sole superpower sucked, wait until China is calling the shots. The East Asians don't feel guilt or remorse for other ethnicities. t Just to add. If you don't think Covid-19 isnt a power play from China, you don't know China very well. They started developing "post-nuclear" weapons of mass destruction as far back as the early 2000's. What's funny is the USA is the only thing keeping China and Russia from each other's throat. They both know it. The second China makes an evolutionary step in nano-tech and are able to disable every other countries nukes without them even knowing. Well, magine only China having nukes. I almost would like to see a post-American super power world because all I read on the internet is how the USA has only brought evil, and in many ways it is true. We've done horrible things. I think the worst thing we did was not giving up and sharing our power with the a body of nations. It would have been a hit to the American standard of living, but would have laid a better groundwork to solve issues in the future and probably would have halted a lot of military advancement from countries like russia and china. Now someone else will get the thrown and be even more self-centered than we were. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77074821 Portugal 06/03/2020 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unfortunately Russian leaders still haven't figured out what the most dangerous US-Western weapon is: The Factory of Fake Culture...Cinema, TV, Music, etc a weapon so well exposed by David McGowan in his book: "Wierd Scenes Inside the Canyon". |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77074821 Portugal 06/03/2020 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It makes me laugh how all of these countries seem to think that the United States seems to want to do nothing but invade, invade, invade. We couldn't give two shits about these countries so the posturing is purely political. We know that invading anyone like Russia or China would be a very big mistake so seeing those blowhards say “we’ll defend ourselves with nukes if you invade us” is utterly ridiculous. There’s no gain in starting a war that ends in mutually assured destruction. Yes, there are powers that be who would love to see the world burn but they are not in the majority. Quoting: Nighthaven It makes me laugh how all of these countries seem to think that the United States seems to want to do nothing but invade, invade, invade. We couldn't give two shits about these countries so the posturing is purely political. We know that invading anyone like Russia or China would be a very big mistake so seeing those blowhards say “we’ll defend ourselves with nukes if you invade us” is utterly ridiculous. There’s no gain in starting a war that ends in mutually assured destruction. Yes, there are powers that be who would love to see the world burn but they are not in the majority. Quoting: Nighthaven This. A lot of world leaders would be hurting if the USA boogeyman went away. There's no appetite for even a small country invasion anymore. IF you think having the USA a sole superpower sucked, wait until China is calling the shots. The East Asians don't feel guilt or remorse for other ethnicities. LOL! Morans...the reason why Russia and China don't end up like Iraq, Syria, Yugoslavia, Libya, etc is precisely because they have the capacity to make a war with them not worthy it and latest US-NATO moves against both this countries is to try to make a "first strike" worthy it. Russia and China just want to keep things at "not worthy" that's all. Force is the only language Western Liberal Democracy (tm) understands and post-USSR world proves it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71909450 Netherlands 06/03/2020 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Before Russia had the policy to nuke somebody only in case if they got attacked with nuclear weapons, the new thing is, now Putin will nuke somebody even if they'll use only conventional weapons against mother Russia, huge deal. Russia is just following US policy regarding nuclear weapons. Blame Bush for that. |
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User ID: 61692282 United States 06/03/2020 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The end of the ‘Mad’ era is upon us now, Quoting: Sir Griffo A cowboys dream was on hold until we knew how. Ronnie’s Star Wars is here, thanks Elon. MAD never existed in the soviet mind, that was a complete fabrication of western media and some western elites. The Soviets always thought all wars were winnable (although at great cost), but never had a tactical advantage large enough to exploit. The whole thing is detailed in the famous civil defense book "Nuclear War Survival Skills" put out by Oak Ridge National Laboratory. (direct PDF link) [link to www.nukepills.com (secure)] Last Edited by Bud Fox on 06/03/2020 10:22 AM Blue Horseshoe loves GLP |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77074821 Portugal 06/03/2020 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The end of the ‘Mad’ era is upon us now, Quoting: Sir Griffo A cowboys dream was on hold until we knew how. Ronnie’s Star Wars is here, thanks Elon. MAD never existed in the soviet mind, that was a complete fabrication of western media and some western elites. The Soviets always thought all wars were winnable (although at great cost), but never had a tactical advantage large enough to exploit. The whole thing is detailed in the famous civil defense book "Nuclear War Survival Skills" put out by Oak Ridge National Laboratory. (direct PDF link) [link to www.nukepills.com (secure)] US nuclear escalation during Cold War: - Start mass production of nuclear weapons. - Creation and mass production of thermonuclear weapons. - Eisenhower's aggressive and insolent policy towards the USSR. - Saint Kennedy continuing this policy ending up with the stationing on IRBMs in UK and Turkey that caused the Cuban Missile Crisis. - Saint Ronald "South Belongs to Mexico" Reagan aggressive nuclear escalation. USSR nuclear escalation during the Cold War: - ZERO. They only reacted to US moves. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69464448 United States 06/03/2020 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuckin no talent losers stole nuke tech. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69464448 Shitty thug govt with cowed gulag proles sad. What? Communist governments are global work gulags Their assheaded leaders are hamfisted thieves, welfare mommy govt since the koshers did civil war on Russian czar. Voting and parliament are mocked every minute such govt is allowed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78986845 United States 06/03/2020 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He should strike now while America Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78919163 is busy dealing with riots. Bet we won't even get a shot off in response before we're totally obliterated. For the past century DOZENS of true men of God, have had that exact vision, some before the invention of nuclear weapons, but they saw them going off anyway, all over America. THAT is how we're going to END, and from the looks of things, it will be well deserved. |
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User ID: 73568822 United States 06/03/2020 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Before Russia had the policy to nuke somebody only in case if they got attacked with nuclear weapons, the new thing is, now Putin will nuke somebody even if they'll use only conventional weapons against mother Russia, huge deal. If you think that wasn't the case before, you don't know how these things work. Nothing can be taken at "face value" in the upper echelons. TRUMP 2020 Willam Barr 2024 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78123365 United States 06/03/2020 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russia never admitted this openly till now. This is Russia's way of saying, loot (corrected in edit) my store and I will shoot your ass dead. America will probably upgrade its first strike policy as well. You can't really prepare physically but consider what may happen and cry about it now because we won't have time to cry about it when it happens. Sounds about right. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69464448 United States 06/03/2020 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the past century DOZENS of true Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78986845 men of God, have had that exact vision, some before the invention of nuclear weapons, but they saw them going off anyway, all over America. THAT is how we're going to END, and from the looks of things, it will be well deserved. Nuke Brussells then, ya slight of hand pansies! Move, countermove, motherfuckers. Americans are the baddest of asses, along with Aussies and all English speakers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77376498 United States 06/03/2020 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Before Russia had the policy to nuke somebody only in case if they got attacked with nuclear weapons, the new thing is, now Putin will nuke somebody even if they'll use only conventional weapons against mother Russia, huge deal. Because conventional weapons and delivery systems have gotten so good ( hypersonics, JDAMS, long range GPs guided Stand off weapons). There's little need to go nuclear on command and control as a first strike.That's old school tactics. I believe we will see Nuclear weapons will be retired in my life time(and I spent a decade in SAC, when "SAC was SAC, TAC was TAC and "mother MAC" got you where you were going" ).. |
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