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(OP) User ID: 75896984 United States 07/07/2020 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus never taught about dispensations, nor did Paul, nor did the early church fathers. It's garbage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58956185 Honestly, you pre-tribbers take the cake. I guess tomorroe wrath will start too? Why not as you think the 6th seal can break before the 1st! Isaiah 4:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Because God declares the end from the beginning the seals run backward You can see the dispensations just by reading the word Last Edited by waterman on 07/07/2020 11:42 AM -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
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(OP) User ID: 75896984 United States 07/07/2020 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Less than 50% of the article posted...the rest is at the link below the article...I suggest reading the link as parts of this have been blocked due to words not allowed on this website. The Two WHEAT Harvests and How the Rabbis Eliminated the TRUE Pentecost! This article shows that even the Jws rabbis get lost Rabbis acknowledge the fact of a SECOND WHEAT HARVEST in Israel, and it is called the "new grain" wheat harvest each year -- NOT the first wheat harvest. Unfortunately, they condemned the new grain harvest by their traditions and no longer realize that the Bible connects Pentecost with this harvest, NOT the first. HOIM Staff The get lost Rabbis recognize that there is ANOTHER wheat harvest in Israel, that comes AFTER the traditional wheat harvest. The following shows several Rabbis instructing the people not to eat any wheat from this SECOND wheat harvest because the grain is considered NEW GRAIN or, as they call it, chodosh grain. They instruct the people to save the spring wheat/new grain -- which is harvested in the summer -- until the following year. You would think they would recognize that YEHOVAH God instructed Israel that the firstfruits for Pentecost would be from the NEW GRAIN, yet they use old grain from the previous year. The Spring Wheat Harvest Creates a Huge Dilemma for get lost Rabbis There's none so blind as he whom the Almighty has blinded, and he that refuses to see. The following will show just how blind some people are, and show more evidence that the Pentecost NEW meat/grain offering had to be from the SPRING WHEAT which is harvested in the summer -- 50 days AFTER the seventh Sabbath (Leviticus 23:16). We all know, or should know, that Leviticus 23 teaches that a NEW meat offering -- NOT an OLD one -- is to be brought to YEHOVAH God from the wheat harvest. The blinded get lost bring an OLD meat offering for the traditional Pentecost, as you will see shortly. Notice what the King James Version of the Bible says -- "Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a NEW meat [grain]-offering unto the LORD" (Leviticus 23:16). The Rabbis teach that SPRING WHEAT -- that which is planted in the spring and reaped four months later in the summer -- cannot be eaten until the following year because it is considered chodosh/NEW grain/meat. Not realizing that YEHOVAH God commanded the NEW GRAIN OFFERING (which would be from the Pentecost wheat and therefore the spring wheat that is harvested in the summer) to be the true Pentecost wheat, they blindly teach an early Pentecost (Shavuot) in the Hebrew month of Sivan. They believe that anything planted during or after Passover cannot be eaten until after the next Passover wave sheaf has been waved. According to this belief, the traditional Pentecost winter wheat cannot fit the requirements of a NEW meat/grain offering because it is considered OLD grain/meat because it is planted in the fall, and took root before Passover. Therefore there is no way they can have a NEW grain offering of the wheat. And -- unless their EYES are opened and they acknowledge the summer wheat harvest that produces the new grain Pentecost offering -- they are simply following the traditions of men. Even if they planted winter wheat, it would NOT be considered a NEW grain/meat offering because it was planted before the Vernal Equinox and, according to the Mishnah etc., it is considered old grain. The NEW grain/meat comes after Passover, in the summertime, and that is exactly what the Bible calls for but they are too blind to see because of their traditions [link to www.hope-of-israel.org (secure)] Last Edited by waterman on 07/07/2020 03:36 PM -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
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User ID: 79121259 United States 07/07/2020 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus never taught about dispensations, nor did Paul, nor did the early church fathers. It's garbage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58956185 Honestly, you pre-tribbers take the cake. I guess tomorroe wrath will start too? Why not as you think the 6th seal can break before the 1st! Isaiah 4:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Because God declares the end from the beginning the seals run backward You can see the dispensations just by reading the word :dispension Sorry - the 7 Seals do NOT "rum backwards". Simple proof. At first, no one steps forward to open the scroll. Then the Lamb shows up. Then starts with the 1st Seal. Father God would NOT have given the Revelation to Jesus - to GIVE to John to write about - IF it were NOT necessary to clarify some things said in the past by MANY others. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
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(OP) User ID: 75896984 United States 07/07/2020 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus never taught about dispensations, nor did Paul, nor did the early church fathers. It's garbage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58956185 Honestly, you pre-tribbers take the cake. I guess tomorroe wrath will start too? Why not as you think the 6th seal can break before the 1st! Isaiah 4:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Because God declares the end from the beginning the seals run backward You can see the dispensations just by reading the word :dispension Sorry - the 7 Seals do NOT "rum backwards". Simple proof. At first, no one steps forward to open the scroll. Then the Lamb shows up. Then starts with the 1st Seal. Father God would NOT have given the Revelation to Jesus - to GIVE to John to write about - IF it were NOT necessary to clarify some things said in the past by MANY others. Regardless of how you think the seals are broken the subject at hand is Pentecost being the harvest of the wheat...the bride is the wheat and the harvest is the catching away as the bride is not appointed to wrath...after the fulfillment of Pentecost/wheat harvest we can go into the 3 fall feasts rosh hashannah ...day of atonement and finally tabernacles...the final harvest after the wheat harvest on Pentecost will be the trib saints on the fall grape harvest at the feast of atonement. -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
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User ID: 77052010 United States 07/07/2020 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Less than 50% of the article posted...the rest is at the link below the article...I suggest reading the link as parts of this have been blocked due to words not allowed on this website. Quoting: waterman The Two WHEAT Harvests and How the Rabbis Eliminated the TRUE Pentecost! This article shows that even the Jws rabbis get lost Rabbis acknowledge the fact of a SECOND WHEAT HARVEST in Israel, and it is called the "new grain" wheat harvest each year -- NOT the first wheat harvest. Unfortunately, they condemned the new grain harvest by their traditions and no longer realize that the Bible connects Pentecost with this harvest, NOT the first. HOIM Staff The get lost Rabbis recognize that there is ANOTHER wheat harvest in Israel, that comes AFTER the traditional wheat harvest. The following shows several Rabbis instructing the people not to eat any wheat from this SECOND wheat harvest because the grain is considered NEW GRAIN or, as they call it, chodosh grain. They instruct the people to save the spring wheat/new grain -- which is harvested in the summer -- until the following year. You would think they would recognize that YEHOVAH God instructed Israel that the firstfruits for Pentecost would be from the NEW GRAIN, yet they use old grain from the previous year. The Spring Wheat Harvest Creates a Huge Dilemma for get lost Rabbis There's none so blind as he whom the Almighty has blinded, and he that refuses to see. The following will show just how blind some people are, and show more evidence that the Pentecost NEW meat/grain offering had to be from the SPRING WHEAT which is harvested in the summer -- 50 days AFTER the seventh Sabbath (Leviticus 23:16). We all know, or should know, that Leviticus 23 teaches that a NEW meat offering -- NOT an OLD one -- is to be brought to YEHOVAH God from the wheat harvest. The blinded get lost bring an OLD meat offering for the traditional Pentecost, as you will see shortly. Notice what the King James Version of the Bible says -- "Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a NEW meat [grain]-offering unto the LORD" (Leviticus 23:16). The Rabbis teach that SPRING WHEAT -- that which is planted in the spring and reaped four months later in the summer -- cannot be eaten until the following year because it is considered chodosh/NEW grain/meat. Not realizing that YEHOVAH God commanded the NEW GRAIN OFFERING (which would be from the Pentecost wheat and therefore the spring wheat that is harvested in the summer) to be the true Pentecost wheat, they blindly teach an early Pentecost (Shavuot) in the Hebrew month of Sivan. They believe that anything planted during or after Passover cannot be eaten until after the next Passover wave sheaf has been waved. According to this belief, the traditional Pentecost winter wheat cannot fit the requirements of a NEW meat/grain offering because it is considered OLD grain/meat because it is planted in the fall, and took root before Passover. Therefore there is no way they can have a NEW grain offering of the wheat. And -- unless their EYES are opened and they acknowledge the summer wheat harvest that produces the new grain Pentecost offering -- they are simply following the traditions of men. Even if they planted winter wheat, it would NOT be considered a NEW grain/meat offering because it was planted before the Vernal Equinox and, according to the Mishnah etc., it is considered old grain. The NEW grain/meat comes after Passover, in the summertime, and that is exactly what the Bible calls for but they are too blind to see because of their traditions [link to www.hope-of-israel.org (secure)] Good points. Adding to that, the people were instructed to leave the corners and the gleanings for the poor and the stranger. Wouldn't make sense that the poor would have to hold onto the grain until the following year before eating it. “And he brought them out and said, 'Sirs, what must I do to be saved?' So they said, 'Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.'" Acts 16:30-31 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4433846 United States 07/07/2020 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus never taught about dispensations, nor did Paul, nor did the early church fathers. It's garbage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58956185 Honestly, you pre-tribbers take the cake. I guess tomorroe wrath will start too? Why not as you think the 6th seal can break before the 1st! Isaiah 4:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Because God declares the end from the beginning the seals run backward You can see the dispensations just by reading the word :dispension Sorry - the 7 Seals do NOT "rum backwards". Simple proof. At first, no one steps forward to open the scroll. Then the Lamb shows up. Then starts with the 1st Seal. Father God would NOT have given the Revelation to Jesus - to GIVE to John to write about - IF it were NOT necessary to clarify some things said in the past by MANY others. Regardless of how you think the seals are broken the subject at hand is Pentecost being the harvest of the wheat...the bride is the wheat and the harvest is the catching away as the bride is not appointed to wrath...after the fulfillment of Pentecost/wheat harvest we can go into the 3 fall feasts rosh hashannah ...day of atonement and finally tabernacles...the final harvest after the wheat harvest on Pentecost will be the trib saints on the fall grape harvest at the feast of atonement. :wheat: :grapes: Your always off on everything. There can’t be a rapture until Ezekiel 38 happens and that can’t happen until Psalm 83 happens. Your always WRONG and your always skipping steps. Now your going backwards. L. O. L. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4433846 United States 07/07/2020 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP saying the rapture is in June. Thread: Potential high watch time for rapture June 6 2020 Pentecost |
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(OP) User ID: 76803670 United States 07/07/2020 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP saying the rapture is in June. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4433846 Thread: Potential high watch time for rapture June 6 2020 Pentecost As I stated in the first post of this thread there are 2 wheat harvests...that was the first one in the spring and July will be the 2nd wheat harvest...you should read it as it has a lot of amazing information in it...or don’t and just continue on as a critic...lol Thank you for posting my former thread I almost forgot about the good videos in there...here is more evidence of the summer Pentecost catching away in July...we past the spring Wheat harvest now we are In the correct summer Pentecost/wheat harvest Last Edited by waterman on 07/07/2020 04:56 PM -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
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(OP) User ID: 76803670 United States 07/07/2020 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We see from the book of jubilees chapter 6 that the feast of weeks/Pentecost was the day God made the covenant with Noah it also goes on to say Pentecost has a two fold and double natured meaning there is two reasons we celebrate it...we see in verse 17 of jubilees chapter 6 one is to renew the covenant....it says the feast of first fruits is the covenant feast. Start at 15 minutes in if you want to see jubilees chapter 6 part: Last Edited by waterman on 07/07/2020 07:13 PM -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
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(OP) User ID: 76803670 United States 07/09/2020 08:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a link for the two wheat harvests in Israel...the 2nd wheat harvest is in the summer...also pentecost is known as the wheat harvest and christians are the wheat and the harvest is possibly the rapture: Quoting: waterman [link to www.hope-of-israel.org (secure)] This guy is hilarious and very knowledgeable and describes why Pentecost is July 24th and 25th this year 2020 Alot of good information in this video for those who are searching for the arrival of Jesus and excited for him to return I’ve been hearing a lot of different counts all between July 19th until July 30 depending where the count starts.....one thing that has me leaning on July 21/Tammuz 29 is the Omer count has a 33rd day called lag b Omer which is a rest day in the count where parties happen bonfires etc. this sounds a lot like the 4th of July we just had...so If the 4th of July was the 33rd lag b Omer then July 21/Tammuz 29 would be Pentecost. So I’m going to be watching closely from july 19 - July 30 as Barry stated the other two harvest feasts last a week so possibly the Pentecost wheat harvest will also be a week...keep oil in those lamps and keep looking up. Again if Pentecost starts July 19 and lasts a week like the other 2 harvest feasts we would not know the day or hour as it could happen anytime during the week of Pentecost Last Edited by waterman on 07/09/2020 08:22 AM -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
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(OP) User ID: 76803670 United States 07/09/2020 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who cares. about Pentecost.. old no longer needed ceremony.... This is the NOW.. live in it. Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL Jesus fulfilled the 3 spring feasts at his first coming so apparently Jesus cares about feast days...at his second coming he will fulfill the other 4 feasts...the next one to fulfill is Pentecost the wheat harvest...the Pentecost feast the church was conceived but it is yet to be harvested Showing 3 1/2 fulfilled at Jesus’ first coming and 3 1/2 fulfilled at second arrival of Jesus Last Edited by waterman on 07/09/2020 12:04 PM -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
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(OP) User ID: 54704616 United States 07/11/2020 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just like at my Sinai before Pentecost the people were shown grace....after Pentecost the law was given and then you see the judgement of God stone tablets being broken...people dying by snakes...instead of two years in the desert they got 40 becauseGod judges during a dispensation of law...etc.... So if the bride leaves at true Pentecost sometime between July 19 and July 30 2020....that would put layout a month time frame to send an Elijah as Elijah I would think would give the sign of Jonah which was a 40 day call to repentance before the people are sealed at the day of atonement Last Edited by waterman on 07/11/2020 02:25 PM -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
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(OP) User ID: 76803670 United States 07/12/2020 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pentecost was 50 days after Moses reached the mountain...not 50 days after passover In acts chapter 2 Peter was accused of being drunk on “new wine” the new wine wasn’t even ready until late July which again show Pentecost could not have been 50 days after passover...the 50 day count starts 50 days after the traditional count. Last Edited by waterman on 07/12/2020 09:20 AM -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
Zeke38
User ID: 77052010 United States 07/12/2020 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very exhaustive review showing a July Pentecost from multiple timelines. Read comments on first video where author calculates that Pentecost 2020 begins tonight (Sunday night). The previous two videos are from 2016. This is his latest recap from a month ago... “And he brought them out and said, 'Sirs, what must I do to be saved?' So they said, 'Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.'" Acts 16:30-31 |
Zeke38
User ID: 77052010 United States 07/12/2020 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pentecost was 50 days after Moses reached the mountain...not 50 days after passover Quoting: waterman In acts chapter 2 Peter was accused of being drunk on “new wine” the new wine wasn’t even ready until late July which again show Pentecost could not have been 50 days after passover...the 50 day count starts 50 days after the traditional count. Great timing OP! “And he brought them out and said, 'Sirs, what must I do to be saved?' So they said, 'Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.'" Acts 16:30-31 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78886966 United States 07/25/2020 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a link for the two wheat harvests in Israel...the 2nd wheat harvest is in the summer...also pentecost is known as the wheat harvest and christians are the wheat and the harvest is possibly the rapture: Quoting: waterman [link to www.hope-of-israel.org (secure)] This guy is hilarious and very knowledgeable and describes why Pentecost is July 24th and 25th this year 2020 Alot of good information in this video for those who are searching for the arrival of Jesus and excited for him to return Are we all dead yet lol? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78886966 United States 07/26/2020 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a link for the two wheat harvests in Israel...the 2nd wheat harvest is in the summer...also pentecost is known as the wheat harvest and christians are the wheat and the harvest is possibly the rapture: Quoting: waterman [link to www.hope-of-israel.org (secure)] This guy is hilarious and very knowledgeable and describes why Pentecost is July 24th and 25th this year 2020 Alot of good information in this video for those who are searching for the arrival of Jesus and excited for him to return Compelling evidence you joined the GLP fail tards club. |
waterman
(OP) User ID: 54651859 United States 07/26/2020 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a link for the two wheat harvests in Israel...the 2nd wheat harvest is in the summer...also pentecost is known as the wheat harvest and christians are the wheat and the harvest is possibly the rapture: Quoting: waterman [link to www.hope-of-israel.org (secure)] This guy is hilarious and very knowledgeable and describes why Pentecost is July 24th and 25th this year 2020 Alot of good information in this video for those who are searching for the arrival of Jesus and excited for him to return Compelling evidence you joined the GLP fail tards club. Glad you are still watching...there is a controversy on if Pentecost being it is a harvest only lasts one day or if it lasts a full week just like Passover and tabernacles...stay tuned and keep oil in that lamp...lol Even Elijah had his servant go look for the cloud 7 times before it rained....never be a quitter ....lol Last Edited by waterman on 07/26/2020 02:36 PM -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
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(OP) User ID: 76803670 United States 07/26/2020 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When does the word “compelling” mean thus saith the lord? We are watching as we see the day get closer...we report what we see..apparently eschatology interests you or you wouldn’t show up on the thread...lol -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
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