Who is the real HIM

If a parent molests their child, you tell the child 'honor thy mother and father,' and prevent them ever speaking out about it. Pedophile is just a word.

Julia Iverson Childs, your house on Gomorrah heights will soon burn.

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Do it. Half the shit I hear on here is shaming people for the effects of victimhood in order to protect the people who did it, and far worse. You don't really care about anyone outside of the group or your fixed-idea geopolitics.

E-gads!

If a parent molests their own child, they are the most broken of individuals.

The child will have deep emotional issues to work through. They should be taught the tools to be able to speak freely about how their inner self is defined by their experiences.

Yes, it is just a word, yet it defines an act that is unfortunately prevalent, and most likely based on the deep pain inside those who perpetrate it, as a result of being raised in a imbalanced and seemingly broken world.

The cycle continues?

Their 'deep emotional issues' are the 'tools.' Stop pretending otherwise. You wished to manipulate people, and that was the short cut. As far as stopping child abuse once YOU GET WHAT YOU WANT, I think that value system speaks for itself.

These God damned pedophile motherfuckers are all going to burn.

Mark my words, this filth will not exist here.

They are delusional Jesus tard cultists and deserve to die.

Talking Heads - Burning Down the House

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I think the idea of "true power" is problematic, and an "absolute" that can never be fulfilled, except in an isolated systems.

True power seems (in my mind at least) to be related to complete flexibility... though seemingly the two are mutually exclusive.

Another one of those glorious paradoxes.

You mean looking the other way for the right people. If a person isn't allowed to have opinions, then someone wants to be cared about for no reason. Yet there's so much judgment here. Funny that.

Who knows maybe something will throw a wrench in the cogs and force everyone to really wake the f' up. Maybe a rude awakening with mass psychosis beyond what is already taking place is exactly what is called for. Have about had it.

Looking around other places I frequent everyone still wants to blame the other side. Left say the Right is evil. Right say the Left is evil. Someone who claims to be woke said looking within is “New Age” Awakening BS that has been taken over by the far right Qanonsense. No one, not ONE can come up with any solutions. All they can do is blame any one but themselves.

As long as we collectively continue to feed the division we will continue to evade the solutions.

No, not at all. You are assuming by "tools" I mean some type of brain washing. What I mean by "tools" is really just critical thinking and self-awareness for the child who is a victim.

There's nothing nefarious here.

I am only referring to the child's state of mind, the "pedophile" is a whole other matter, and I haven't expressed my opinions on how I believe we should deal with the matter at all.

Let's just say it is along conversation, and I really don't want to duvet the thread, but you may be pleasantly surprised by some of my ideas.

I stopped listening to your ideas when I considered the victims of your mechanisms of enforcement. I can avoid being the bad guy by stopping working. Why suffer for someone else who would be so cruel as to frame me for not forgiving them enslaving me?

One of the banterings saw was a Trumper saying to the other side well what about Clinton's associations with Epstein? The Clintonite responding what about Trump's associations? Sickness to that level doesn't care about your politics. Many were abused themselves. Some are just sick. What do you do with a sick animal with no chance of ever being healed? Rabies is mostly incurable. You put them out of their misery. That is true mercy. For both the abuser and the abused.

Some can be cured. Some can break the cycle. My spouse endured SRA in his early teens. I also survived an incident in early childhood. Many of our friends along the way were also survivors. It messes you up for life. Suicide, major substance addictions. It caused us to be overprotective of our child which had its own issues. We broke the cycle. We overcame it.

Honor thy mother and father does not mean tolerate their illegal activities. WTF?

It sure does.

i dunno where him is

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Me personally, they disgust me.

As a father of 4, anyone who would harm a child is the lowest of the low.

Thread derailer. No one here does anything about the things they say they can't stand, and often thwarts efforts to those ends.

Cool, no-one said you have to listen to my ideas.

I'll note though, that I haven't mentioned anything about my ideas of enforcement. Also, I am not framing you (or any individual) for your thoughts. I agree that not ever forgiving an attacker is a completely valid personal position, and I would never try to take that away from anyone.

I do see that the "suffering" is there regardless though, and how the suffering expresses itself is up to the individual (critical thinking and self-awareness can lead to many valid responses). Letting bitter thoughts lead to a negatively impacted life is all too common. Too often victims of pedophilia become pedophiles themselves! How do we break that cycle?

In our current world, "string em' up"!, because it's where we are with our collectively empathy, and given that, I can be on board.... that doesn't mean I can't have different thoughts, and imagine more ideal worlds.

You guys are getting a little weird in the head today.

Your still on ignore from your days as "Mr. Robot".

Didn't like you then or now.

Reason is a last resort for you. Where staying away from the people who hurt you isn't an option--and it isn't--then reasoning with people whose first option was coercion is kind of silly, isn't it? What value does human life actually have in this light? You have to argue from both sides of the bench even to establish a 'case.'

If a person breaks into your house to take something from you in order to force you to do something you don't want to do, how different is that from someone who breaks your mind and your body to take sexual pleasure from you? Do you think given this gross and basic disrespect for human autonomy and dignity that there is an actual discussion to be had? Now let's add that real pedophiles have been protected by your interlocutors based on how useful they were in other respects. Where are we going? Somewhere bad, I reckon.

I do agree, even if I can't help but play devil's advocate.

I almost ripped the head off a man I saw looking inappropriately at a group of young boys in school sports uniforms. When he pulled his phone out (I assume to take take pictures), he noticed me and ran.

If it was my own child, I just hope pleading "crime of passion" is acceptable.

NOTE!!!
My sincere apologies for opening that thread derailing can of worms!

Back on topic.

Yeah, I think it's time for another month-long break. There's no value in taking constant abuse from people who otherwise claim to care about people in the abstract.