Who is the real HIM

Aren't we both interlocutors at the moment? I'm not sure why you add a "your". I think any discourse that can move past emotive disagreement is good.

I am just having a conversation, not looking create "sides" or to cause offense.

I was sexually abused as a child man, I know well the lingering effects.

It changes a child for life, forces them to grow up too early.

Everyone is living in their own reality created by their individual consciousness.

There are forces trying to control what you believe and what your consciousness perceives in this reality.

Know Yourself and Your Vibration.

We are living energy vibrating among vast fields of vibration.

Depending on how you resonate is what lines of vibration reality are drawn to you.

There are many axis of reality.
The EM/Physical.
The Astral.
The Spiritual.
The Mental.
The Emotional.
The Etherical.
The Psychical.
And more....

The more you grow your living vibration the more you get to perceive.

If you are not in balance you will be taken for a ride. Hopefully you will learn from it and grow.

Know yourself. This makes you safe and unable to be changed by outside forces unless you allow it.

Be Free my friends.

Transcend the control of those who hold the vibrational strings of this reality and those who use it as a prison for you to harvest your energies.

Thumb your nose at them as you do it.

The Path is Love which ascends on to infinity. All other paths run out in time. Only Love goes on forever in increasing complexity.

Krishnamurti -The Reluctant Messiah

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You aren't being sincere. You never are. You have a goal to this conversation, and anything that would lead me to remember how very untrustworthy you have been will be minimized; in this particular conversation, the mode of that minimization is 'emotive.' I know you don't sincerely care about stopping abuse, only labeling enemies as pedophiles. All is permitted here at the right level. That alone makes me feel dirty, and what you've done in service of it means that the thought of sharing a planet with you, let alone a room, demotivates me to the ultimate apathy. Congratulations, your cynicism has made me a Stoic.

Illusions: The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah Book Review

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As was my sister, so I have at least a peripheral understanding.

I was too "vocal" as a child, not an easy victim, I would have been asking very loudly for instructions to the game, and I'm sure I wouldn't have been able to wait to tell mum!

Wow... you pulled all that from my words? Not sure where I haven't been sincere.

Cool. Not intended at all, but cool effect. I'm pretty sure I never labelled anyone a pedophile. Not an accusation I would make lightly.

Please though, don't trust my words... I'm not trying to convince anyone. You read them (or not) and do with them what you will.

Bullshit!

“If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, and even his own life—he cannot be my disciple."
LUKE 14:26

It is a difficult problem to solve. There are levels and layers among that form of depravity. Does the person who takes pictures deserve the same fate as one who acts upon the impulses in deep physical form? Does a one time abuser deserve the same as a habitual abuser? It kills the victim inside. Does the abuser deserve also to die, physically have their life ended? Should the death penalty be given? Is rehabilitation along with lifetime imprisonment the right sentence? Rehabilitation in some cases isn't possible. So what then?

It is a relevant topic to this meme. Survivors are drawn to it. If you took a poll you might be surprised. Many wouldn't admit it.

It is almost the single handed biggest plague humanity is facing. Throughout time. How do you go up against something that is acceptable and even encouraged in certain holy books?

How haven't you been sincere? There are moral considerations and political considerations. This is a discussion in moral language with a political objective. Taking 'emotive' and 'offense' out of a discussion of sexual violation means that the only thrust of a conversation about pedophiles is a political one. That's why you say 'pedophile' rather than 'child molester or rapist.' Once the conversation is political, then what is a crime for some is a liberty for others. Epstein did what he did because he could. A Hindu would appeal to the prana he has accumulated versus the negligible amount had by his victims. Someone from his home city of New York would preface their remarks with what favors he did and for whom. The effects on the child are the last consideration, where they should be the first.

The way these issues are approached is kind of like a Turing test for souls. Protip: lawyers, bankers, and operatives don't have them. I'd prefer to keep mine.

One step forward, two steps back. After seeing some banter here and there have to ask myself what kind of creator would express itself in deep depravity harming the soul, body and spirit of a child? Some would say oh well it's karma. That child was an abuser in a past life. Even if that was the case what kind of God would continue the cycle?

*Puts book been reading back on shelf because it allows evil to continue in its philosophies.

"The ultimate Truth is beyond words. Doctrines are words. They’re not the Way. The Way is wordless. Words are illusions. They’re no different from things that appear in your dreams at night, be they palaces or carriages, forested parks or lakeside pavilions. Don’t conceive any delight for such things. They’re all cradles of rebirth. Keep this in mind when you approach death. Don’t cling to appearances, and you’ll break through all barriers. A moment’s hesitation, and you’ll be under the spell of devils. Your real body is pure and impervious. But because of delusions, you’re unaware of it. And because of this, you suffer karma in vain. Wherever you find delight, you find bondage. But once you awaken to your original body and mind, you’re no longer bound to attachments."
~ Bodhidharma

Meditate it all away.

All is illusion.

Love is the answer.

All else will pass away.

More avoidance, look away while it gets worse, evading solutions we need NOW...

What was done was unforgivable.

Agreed.

If he does come forth, the message will sound new, but be the same..

Turn from your evil ways, repent of your sins, and ask God for forgiveness.

His rhetoric to say the same thing will be new.

He/She will be able to “prove” things with rhetoric that no one before has been able.

James 4:8

isn't it amazing how the fool who can control himself today tell people about something they cannot control in the past at all bounds them...because you cannot control yourself now...lol...god forgives your sins of one show initiative...ass to say...two rights fix one wrong...lol

typo

They were making the same speeches about self-control back then. The moral of your story is that power is never responsible for what it does, ever. Thus, abuse doesn't exist.

Millions of people are guilty of letting it go on by looking away.

The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth is coming. You can bet on it. There will be no looking away when it does. What the collective needs is the rocks that are rolling down the hill to smack them straight in their third eyes.

Have you ever considered the possibility that you all just might be extremely psychotic??

The creator of that series hates mixed children and yet sleeps almost exclusively with people outside of his race. The race struggle in a nutshell.

so you never ask the question would actual power actually be given to one who would abuse it ...you talk in circles buddy ...lol

You can't even tell the whole truth right now. Truth isn't something you wait on for maximum effect, because the chances are you will leave out important information to increase that effect as well. Par for the course.

Absolutely, and in most cases the folk in these threads are too. If you think you are "Him", you have exactly the standard kind of thing depicted in the first episode of the netflix show Maniac

Power is and has always been in the hands of those who do abuse it. You frame stopping being abused as the privilege of power, then deny it to those who are its victims. What is okay to do to me is okay to do to anyone. If I cannot stand up for myself, then why stand up for others?

If I keep seeing this God damned thread, you will start to find rattlesnakes in your houses after they bite you.

if you need a title you have no power...if you need an introduction ...you have no influence...this is a l-earned gift...it takes time...lol