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I still dont know how we get past the IQ problem

 
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u eat poop 2
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A thread about IQ and you post this not once but twice. Where you twirling your hair and snapping your gum when you typed that?
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I heard there were people eating poop in hear and wanted to see what was going on.
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You have a variable IQ.
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Yo momma has a variable IQ.
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Everyone has a variable IQ. As I've already said the IQ is of THEIR definition. What THEY don't tell you is that the IQ is variable. But of course, you already know that for THEM it's always FIX AND CONTROL.
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Mine has varied from 132 to 136 for 45 fucking years. I could get some variation by cheating--likely what most Mensa members do--take IW type test repeatedly to get the mind in shape for the run.

I would guess an average person could bump their score 20 percent with a bit of training but a week or two later they will be right back where they started from.
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Were? or where?tounge
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Does anyone actually have a solution to this problem.

Anyone who has really thought about it understands the issue is IQ related. When 50% of a population has an IQ lower than 85 can you really expect them to be a working member of society?

So what IS the answer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78302946


By its very definition, 50% of people cannot have an IQ under 85.

50% of people have an IQ under 100.

If your IQ was above 85 you'd know that.
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50% of all white people have an IQ at or under 100, which is their mean --around which is their bell curve. 1 standard deviation is about 15 points, so about 68% of white people will have an IQ between 85-115, which qualifies them for many productive occupations.

50% of African Americans have an IQ at or under 85, which is the mean for African Americans, around which is their bell curve.

1 Standard deviation is about 15 points, so about 68% of African Americans will have IQs between 70-100, which also qualifies the top half for many occupations, but not so much in areas like hard sciences, etc.

I think the issue is that the smarter persons of both races need to find ways to assist those who are less intelligent to have decent and productive lives. There are still many well paying occupations that can be done by those with an IQ of at least 80, but there are less occupations available to those with IQs of less than 80.
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Does anyone actually have a solution to this problem.

Anyone who has really thought about it understands the issue is IQ related. When 50% of a population has an IQ lower than 85 can you really expect them to be a working member of society?

So what IS the answer?
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Get them to vote for you.
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I heard there were people eating poop in hear and wanted to see what was going on.
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The phrase 'near imbecile' comes to mind.
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Does anyone actually have a solution to this problem.

Anyone who has really thought about it understands the issue is IQ related. When 50% of a population has an IQ lower than 85 can you really expect them to be a working member of society?

So what IS the answer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78302946


I worked in a university for around 20 years on a variety of levels and found that there's much more to a person than their IQ.

One of the dumbest guys I knew had an IQ over 190 seriously, Mensa wanted him bad, but he got involved with meth trying to work long hours, end of his intelligence. Liberal too. I've known much brighter and smarter that were supposedly less intelligent.

I've also known supposedly brain damaged or retarded that had the biggest hearts and most interesting ideas.
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I heard there were people eating poop in hear and wanted to see what was going on.
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The phrase 'near imbecile' comes to mind.
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moron

less letters more accurate because it certainly couldn't be idiot
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Re: I still dont know how we get past the IQ problem
Does anyone actually have a solution to this problem.

Anyone who has really thought about it understands the issue is IQ related. When 50% of a population has an IQ lower than 85 can you really expect them to be a working member of society?

So what IS the answer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78302946


I worked in a university for around 20 years on a variety of levels and found that there's much more to a person than their IQ.

One of the dumbest guys I knew had an IQ over 190 seriously, Mensa wanted him bad, but he got involved with meth trying to work long hours, end of his intelligence. Liberal too. I've known much brighter and smarter that were supposedly less intelligent.

I've also known supposedly brain damaged or retarded that had the biggest hearts and most interesting ideas.
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coping = the post
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You have a variable IQ.
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Yo momma has a variable IQ.
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Everyone has a variable IQ. As I've already said the IQ is of THEIR definition. What THEY don't tell you is that the IQ is variable. But of course, you already know that for THEM it's always FIX AND CONTROL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79118294


Mine has varied from 132 to 136 for 45 fucking years. I could get some variation by cheating--likely what most Mensa members do--take IW type test repeatedly to get the mind in shape for the run.

I would guess an average person could bump their score 20 percent with a bit of training but a week or two later they will be right back where they started from.
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hmm, maybe another question. Who do THEY think they are to have the ability to measure intelligence ?

Oh dear, I really really do hope some of you get it...

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The world still needs ditch diggers.
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The words of Rodney Dangerfield when he is head of the Country Club.
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Rodney didn't say that, it was the rich older dick slapping away the sob story of the caddy needing money for college.
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Re: I still dont know how we get past the IQ problem
Does anyone actually have a solution to this problem.

Anyone who has really thought about it understands the issue is IQ related. When 50% of a population has an IQ lower than 85 can you really expect them to be a working member of society?

So what IS the answer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78302946


While I am not a died in the wool Christian, this is where the teachings of Christ come into play and the descent of the holy spirit rises up the individual through any type of limitation, including not exclusively low IQ.

Many years ago, I volunteered to work with a special needs guy who had what we would call, a low IQ, this was the result of brain damage suffered as a child when he had barium mistakenly shot into his spine.

He wrote me a letter once, through scribbled and scrawled writing, and about three quarters of the way through it, the script became quite clear and the message changed as well. It was as if an aspect of God was speaking through him.

It wasn't a 24/7 operation, but the connection was there enough for someone with a low !Q to not only get through life, but function.

Low IQ with a good home structure and religious instruction can be very functional people, but AI is the game changer.

Wait till low IQ people get upgraded via Musk's uplink. That could be comic book like interesting.
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u seem like u eat poop
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u seem like a guy that listens to daniel johnston and collects lunch boxes as a hobby.
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White women screwing them and having their alpha spawn will even out the IQ problem so we are all the same. Keep encouraging your females to go after the bad boys and thugs.
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The solution is less government regulation and more Darwin.
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People with the low IQs just want their TV, games, drinks, cigarettes, naps, tik-tok and food. I'm not worried about those with low IQs or the poor. They have no power. They never did.

What's concerning to me is last year's valedictorian is campaigning to get school police fired and writing daily blogs about how white people are evil (she's white too).

It's concerning to me that radical young white people are orchestrating BLM protests.

It's concerning to me that these young people want to destroy, defund, erase, cancel etc...

It's concerning to me that corporations, the Democrats and the media are portraying them as peaceful protestors and heroes.

I'm more worried about those with misplaced, misguided high IQs.
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I am more concerned with those of average who think that they are more. Those righteous fools are the most dangerous.
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People with the low IQs just want their TV, games, drinks, cigarettes, naps, tik-tok and food. I'm not worried about those with low IQs or the poor. They have no power. They never did.

What's concerning to me is last year's valedictorian is campaigning to get school police fired and writing daily blogs about how white people are evil (she's white too).

It's concerning to me that radical young white people are orchestrating BLM protests.

It's concerning to me that these young people want to destroy, defund, erase, cancel etc...

It's concerning to me that corporations, the Democrats and the media are portraying them as peaceful protestors and heroes.

I'm more worried about those with misplaced, misguided high IQs.
 Quoting: Lastango


I am more concerned with those of average who think that they are more. Those righteous fools are the most dangerous.
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eugenics
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Yes but the moral application of it is beyond our technology. When done properly it's actually close to what new-agers call "ascension" but that involves a change in dimension as well.

Fermi was one of the highest IQ's ever hosted on this planet and he used it to build the first nuclear weapon, actually used on the Japanese people.

He later regretted it and refused to work on the hydrogen bomb but obviously his remorse came too late.

The point: high IQ ain't all it's cracked up to be either.

IQ is not a racial issue but rather of intentional Product Liability of the Manufacturers!

The human race was not developed as geniuses!
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Which brings us back to ascension.
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The bigger problem is we have incentivized them to breed. It pays their bills. Stop welfare and suddenly birth control will be practiced again. Maybe men will have to get jobs to show women they are serious about supporting a family before having kids. Call me crazy but I think it could work.
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Re: I still dont know how we get past the IQ problem
Does anyone actually have a solution to this problem.

Anyone who has really thought about it understands the issue is IQ related. When 50% of a population has an IQ lower than 85 can you really expect them to be a working member of society?

So what IS the answer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78302946


While I am not a died in the wool Christian, this is where the teachings of Christ come into play and the descent of the holy spirit rises up the individual through any type of limitation, including not exclusively low IQ.

Many years ago, I volunteered to work with a special needs guy who had what we would call, a low IQ, this was the result of brain damage suffered as a child when he had barium mistakenly shot into his spine.

He wrote me a letter once, through scribbled and scrawled writing, and about three quarters of the way through it, the script became quite clear and the message changed as well. It was as if an aspect of God was speaking through him.

It wasn't a 24/7 operation, but the connection was there enough for someone with a low !Q to not only get through life, but function.

Low IQ with a good home structure and religious instruction can be very functional people, but AI is the game changer.

Wait till low IQ people get upgraded via Musk's uplink. That could be comic book like interesting.
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u seem like u eat poop
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u seem like a guy that listens to daniel johnston and collects lunch boxes as a hobby.
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never attended any taxpayer education in my entire life so that's a en-oh on a lunch box fetish

i fucked a girl for a summer that was into dj she got annoying so i super ghosted on her and she killed herself
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The bigger problem is we have incentivized them to breed. It pays their bills. Stop welfare and suddenly birth control will be practiced again. Maybe men will have to get jobs to show women they are serious about supporting a family before having kids. Call me crazy but I think it could work.
 Quoting: FlashBuzzkill


As long as we don't shame promiscuous behavior they will continue to screw the thugs, because their genetic wiring drives them to crave these men. Money or no money, they're going to have the alpha spawn even if they have to raise it on the streets.
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The bigger problem is we have incentivized them to breed. It pays their bills. Stop welfare and suddenly birth control will be practiced again. Maybe men will have to get jobs to show women they are serious about supporting a family before having kids. Call me crazy but I think it could work.
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i would call you mentally ill
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50% of the US population is not below 85 iq. More like 10%

But, that isn't really the issue. The issue is cultural teaching over several generations.
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He's not talking about the US population, but 50 percent of a certain ethnic group in the USA has an IQ of 85 or lower.
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Yo momma has a variable IQ.
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Everyone has a variable IQ. As I've already said the IQ is of THEIR definition. What THEY don't tell you is that the IQ is variable. But of course, you already know that for THEM it's always FIX AND CONTROL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79118294


Mine has varied from 132 to 136 for 45 fucking years. I could get some variation by cheating--likely what most Mensa members do--take IW type test repeatedly to get the mind in shape for the run.

I would guess an average person could bump their score 20 percent with a bit of training but a week or two later they will be right back where they started from.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76437545


hmm, maybe another question. Who do THEY think they are to have the ability to measure intelligence ?

Oh dear, I really really do hope some of you get it...

:)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79118294


It is accepted as science. It works the same all around the world. Other than some experience in firing out problems, schooling has nothing to do with it. Dumb is dumb.
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People with the low IQs just want their TV, games, drinks, cigarettes, naps, tik-tok and food. I'm not worried about those with low IQs or the poor. They have no power. They never did.

What's concerning to me is last year's valedictorian is campaigning to get school police fired and writing daily blogs about how white people are evil (she's white too).

It's concerning to me that radical young white people are orchestrating BLM protests.

It's concerning to me that these young people want to destroy, defund, erase, cancel etc...

It's concerning to me that corporations, the Democrats and the media are portraying them as peaceful protestors and heroes.

I'm more worried about those with misplaced, misguided high IQs.
 Quoting: Lastango


I am more concerned with those of average who think that they are more. Those righteous fools are the most dangerous.
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THAT is a valid point.
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50% of the US population is not below 85 iq. More like 10%

But, that isn't really the issue. The issue is cultural teaching over several generations.
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He's not talking about the US population, but 50 percent of a certain ethnic group in the USA has an IQ of 85 or lower.
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C.B. Kami presentation on race & i.q.

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While I am not a died in the wool Christian, this is where the teachings of Christ come into play and the descent of the holy spirit rises up the individual through any type of limitation, including not exclusively low IQ.

Many years ago, I volunteered to work with a special needs guy who had what we would call, a low IQ, this was the result of brain damage suffered as a child when he had barium mistakenly shot into his spine.

He wrote me a letter once, through scribbled and scrawled writing, and about three quarters of the way through it, the script became quite clear and the message changed as well. It was as if an aspect of God was speaking through him.

It wasn't a 24/7 operation, but the connection was there enough for someone with a low !Q to not only get through life, but function.

Low IQ with a good home structure and religious instruction can be very functional people, but AI is the game changer.

Wait till low IQ people get upgraded via Musk's uplink. That could be comic book like interesting.
 Quoting: Mercury Phoenix


u seem like u eat poop
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u seem like a guy that listens to daniel johnston and collects lunch boxes as a hobby.
 Quoting: Mercury Phoenix


never attended any taxpayer education in my entire life so that's a en-oh on a lunch box fetish

i fucked a girl for a summer that was into dj she got annoying so i super ghosted on her and she killed herself
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Well done. I think in some circles, they call that being authentic, just like Jeff Dahmer and Ted Bundy, who were really just being authentic. Keep it real bro. Btw, I don't eat poop. John McAfee does though. Seems to work for him.
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u seem like u eat poop
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u seem like a guy that listens to daniel johnston and collects lunch boxes as a hobby.
 Quoting: Mercury Phoenix


never attended any taxpayer education in my entire life so that's a en-oh on a lunch box fetish

i fucked a girl for a summer that was into dj she got annoying so i super ghosted on her and she killed herself
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78984026


Well done. I think in some circles, they call that being authentic, just like Jeff Dahmer and Ted Bundy, who were really just being authentic. Keep it real bro. Btw, I don't eat poop. John McAfee does though. Seems to work for him.
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Does anyone actually have a solution to this problem.

Anyone who has really thought about it understands the issue is IQ related. When 50% of a population has an IQ lower than 85 can you really expect them to be a working member of society?

So what IS the answer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78302946


Yeah, it is kinda unfair expecting low iq races to be able to engineer, build and maintain society above their level of capability.

Large swathes of land should be allocated to tribal living.

And while we're at it, large swathes of land should also be allocated to break away communities, for those who think the current world has gone insane.
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iq is not the problem.

Its the difference between short and long term gain and what might be considered acceptable risk.
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