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the demiurge punishes those who commit suicide in his world

 
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” When a man begins to wake up and starts to see things as they really are, he fears he has gone mad. He realizes that everything he has been taught is lies, that he is surrounded by madmen and sleepwalkers and that he is stuck in a giant concentration camp inhabited by the insane. If this man does not quickly find other men who are awake like him, it is likely he will think about committing suicide in an effort to escape from this prison. That is why most men prefer to remain asleep. Most of them do not want to know the truth: that they are living in a huge mental institution invented and controlled by the Supreme Madman. Only a minority of very brave men will seek out this Special Knowledge capable of waking them up.”

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Being awake to the knowledge addressed in that article gives people a very insightful understanding of our reality and answers most of the great “mysteries of life”.

Having already pursued much study on this subject, I find the one question yet remains:

HOW DO WE ESCAPE THIS CYCLE OF BEING REPEATEDLY RECYCLED INTO THIS PRISON?

That is the ultimate question to be answered that I cannot find an answer to.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


I have came across an person that you may have not explored yet Zovalex.
His name is Andrew Bartiz, he is Earths only Galactic Historian, and a very interesting man.

This link ill leave here is to an old series of videos he has done, they are unbelivable almost, but I connected with many of his truths, as they were mine too.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

This particular series has 20 videos at around 25 minutes each, but once you get going you will binge watch them all.

Reason I though of him was in response to your question about what breaks this cycle of reincarnation with the Demiurge, Andrew will explain this.
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In history anyone who was considered a gnostic was killed for knowing this knowledge.
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Still doesn’t address the question I posted.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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Everything is fake and everything is true here. Depends on your beliefs. The demiurge is a narcissist pervert 5yo child without power but the illusion. Why do you think he hides himself? Because he is weak and could be destroyed by a thought only.
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Lol what a defeatist attitude
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Excerpt from the same link:

” When a man begins to wake up and starts to see things as they really are, he fears he has gone mad. He realizes that everything he has been taught is lies, that he is surrounded by madmen and sleepwalkers and that he is stuck in a giant concentration camp inhabited by the insane. If this man does not quickly find other men who are awake like him, it is likely he will think about committing suicide in an effort to escape from this prison. That is why most men prefer to remain asleep. Most of them do not want to know the truth: that they are living in a huge mental institution invented and controlled by the Supreme Madman. Only a minority of very brave men will seek out this Special Knowledge capable of waking them up.”

.
 Quoting: Zovalex


Being awake to the knowledge addressed in that article gives people a very insightful understanding of our reality and answers most of the great “mysteries of life”.

Having already pursued much study on this subject, I find the one question yet remains:

HOW DO WE ESCAPE THIS CYCLE OF BEING REPEATEDLY RECYCLED INTO THIS PRISON?

That is the ultimate question to be answered that I cannot find an answer to.

.
 Quoting: Zovalex


I have came across an person that you may have not explored yet Zovalex.
His name is Andrew Bartiz, he is Earths only Galactic Historian, and a very interesting man.

This link ill leave here is to an old series of videos he has done, they are unbelivable almost, but I connected with many of his truths, as they were mine too.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

This particular series has 20 videos at around 25 minutes each, but once you get going you will binge watch them all.

Reason I though of him was in response to your question about what breaks this cycle of reincarnation with the Demiurge, Andrew will explain this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54764769


Thank you for this.

I will definitely save for later viewing.

Be well, Friend.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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It is a mental prison. There is nothing outside of you but you. Here is the lie.
You want to escape and win the game? Control your thoughts, take back the driver seat and then, stop playing.
 Quoting: ThePassenger


What about those who are crippled by a chemical imbalance that causes severe depression or manic episodes? Willpower alone is not enough...
I never forgive and I never forget

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Let me help you, if you read the Tibetan Book of living and dying it’s all there. It’s a combination of good karma, spiritual power and psychic discipline. They work backwards. The first thing you need to do is separate from your body. The sooner you do that the better you are. Now it’s wish fulfillment time. This is the time for your spiritual power. Whatever is in your subconscious will now give you the next phase of your experience. Finally you come to the disposition of your soul. Extinguish- sad but painless, rebirth and Moshka which is similar to the first but you consciously rejoin God for having served him or one of the lesser deities like Satan or Lucifer. You go full circle. You rejoin whom you serve in life. It’s like Bob says, “You gotta serve somebody”.
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Excerpt from the same link:

” When a man begins to wake up and starts to see things as they really are, he fears he has gone mad. He realizes that everything he has been taught is lies, that he is surrounded by madmen and sleepwalkers and that he is stuck in a giant concentration camp inhabited by the insane. If this man does not quickly find other men who are awake like him, it is likely he will think about committing suicide in an effort to escape from this prison. That is why most men prefer to remain asleep. Most of them do not want to know the truth: that they are living in a huge mental institution invented and controlled by the Supreme Madman. Only a minority of very brave men will seek out this Special Knowledge capable of waking them up.”

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 Quoting: Zovalex


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Excerpt from the same link:

” When a man begins to wake up and starts to see things as they really are, he fears he has gone mad. He realizes that everything he has been taught is lies, that he is surrounded by madmen and sleepwalkers and that he is stuck in a giant concentration camp inhabited by the insane. If this man does not quickly find other men who are awake like him, it is likely he will think about committing suicide in an effort to escape from this prison. That is why most men prefer to remain asleep. Most of them do not want to know the truth: that they are living in a huge mental institution invented and controlled by the Supreme Madman. Only a minority of very brave men will seek out this Special Knowledge capable of waking them up.”

.
 Quoting: Zovalex


Being awake to the knowledge addressed in that article gives people a very insightful understanding of our reality and answers most of the great “mysteries of life”.

Having already pursued much study on this subject, I find the one question yet remains:

HOW DO WE ESCAPE THIS CYCLE OF BEING REPEATEDLY RECYCLED INTO THIS PRISON?

That is the ultimate question to be answered that I cannot find an answer to.

.
 Quoting: Zovalex


I have came across an person that you may have not explored yet Zovalex.
His name is Andrew Bartiz, he is Earths only Galactic Historian, and a very interesting man.

This link ill leave here is to an old series of videos he has done, they are unbelivable almost, but I connected with many of his truths, as they were mine too.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

This particular series has 20 videos at around 25 minutes each, but once you get going you will binge watch them all.

Reason I though of him was in response to your question about what breaks this cycle of reincarnation with the Demiurge, Andrew will explain this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54764769


Thank you for this.

I will definitely save for later viewing.

Be well, Friend.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Your very welcome.
I was especialy interested with what he mentions regarding the Silver Legion.
I hope I dont get banned for posting this too.
[link to www.silverlegion.org]
Look into this too.
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” When a man begins to wake up and starts to see things as they really are, he fears he has gone mad. He realizes that everything he has been taught is lies, that he is surrounded by madmen and sleepwalkers and that he is stuck in a giant concentration camp inhabited by the insane. If this man does not quickly find other men who are awake like him, it is likely he will think about committing suicide in an effort to escape from this prison. That is why most men prefer to remain asleep. Most of them do not want to know the truth: that they are living in a huge mental institution invented and controlled by the Supreme Madman. Only a minority of very brave men will seek out this Special Knowledge capable of waking them up.”

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can any of those who know escape this fate of humanity?
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When a ignorant human commits suicide, his soul is separated from his body and delivered to the demiurge, taking the Spirit with it, as the Spirit is tied to the soul. Next comes judgment, punishment and karma. This is what happens every time a man dies, and suicide is no exception. In the case of suicide, the punishment inflicted by the demiurge will be greater: a prisoner has tried to escape and has been trapped again. Double punishment. The prisoner who has committed suicide, has not escaped from anything and has liberated himself from nothing. Here he is, in the hands of the demiurge once again. For the common man, suicide is neither a way out nor liberation. On the contrary, it is a worsening of his situation.

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Bollocks
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Seems the whining living just try to protect their feelings.

Force people to live through a physical, emotional, and psychological hell.

Live and let live or die if that is their preference.
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It is a mental prison. There is nothing outside of you but you. Here is the lie.
You want to escape and win the game? Control your thoughts, take back the driver seat and then, stop playing.
 Quoting: ThePassenger


What about those who are crippled by a chemical imbalance that causes severe depression or manic episodes? Willpower alone is not enough...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Those feelings are illusions too. They have to fight their own mind in order to exit the prison game. The body is as fake as all. Made of beliefs. You can change everything about your body, your mind and the thought process by repetition. It is the key.
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The fear of suicide is another devil s tool. it doesn t want to lose its minions...
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Even a soul without sin won’t escape without the mysteries
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This thread is thought provoking. As such it is a pleasant respite from the trumpeting crowd of speculators.

Thanks op.
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Excerpt from the same link:

” When a man begins to wake up and starts to see things as they really are, he fears he has gone mad. He realizes that everything he has been taught is lies, that he is surrounded by madmen and sleepwalkers and that he is stuck in a giant concentration camp inhabited by the insane. If this man does not quickly find other men who are awake like him, it is likely he will think about committing suicide in an effort to escape from this prison. That is why most men prefer to remain asleep. Most of them do not want to know the truth: that they are living in a huge mental institution invented and controlled by the Supreme Madman. Only a minority of very brave men will seek out this Special Knowledge capable of waking them up.”

.
 Quoting: Zovalex


Being awake to the knowledge addressed in that article gives people a very insightful understanding of our reality and answers most of the great “mysteries of life”.

Having already pursued much study on this subject, I find the one question yet remains:

HOW DO WE ESCAPE THIS CYCLE OF BEING REPEATEDLY RECYCLED INTO THIS PRISON?

That is the ultimate question to be answered that I cannot find an answer to.

.
 Quoting: Zovalex


none escape without the mysteries
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It is a mental prison. There is nothing outside of you but you. Here is the lie.
You want to escape and win the game? Control your thoughts, take back the driver seat and then, stop playing.
 Quoting: ThePassenger


What about those who are crippled by a chemical imbalance that causes severe depression or manic episodes? Willpower alone is not enough...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Those feelings are illusions too. They have to fight their own mind in order to exit the prison game. The body is as fake as all. Made of beliefs. You can change everything about your body, your mind and the thought process by repetition. It is the key.
 Quoting: ThePassenger


Emptions are very powerful, even for the most logical and intellectual mind...
I never forgive and I never forget

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The fear of suicide is another devil s tool. it doesn t want to lose its minions...
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Toys should not turn themselves off, it goes against the programming...
I never forgive and I never forget

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When a ignorant human commits suicide, his soul is separated from his body and delivered to the demiurge, taking the Spirit with it, as the Spirit is tied to the soul. Next comes judgment, punishment and karma. This is what happens every time a man dies, and suicide is no exception. In the case of suicide, the punishment inflicted by the demiurge will be greater: a prisoner has tried to escape and has been trapped again. Double punishment. The prisoner who has committed suicide, has not escaped from anything and has liberated himself from nothing. Here he is, in the hands of the demiurge once again. For the common man, suicide is neither a way out nor liberation. On the contrary, it is a worsening of his situation.

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 Quoting: aeon 74623779



I've always considered life on Earth to be some kind of punishment.

Our spirit was convicted of some crime and the penalty is imprisonment on Earth. Our spirit entombed in a physical body which in and of itself is a form of punishment. Hunger, fatigue, pain, suffering, death ... how could you argue that this life is NOT some form of punishment ???

There is no escape EXCEPT to ACCEPT Christ Jesus as Lord and Savior.

It's no coincidence that the scripture reads:

"Where the Spirit of the Lord lives, there lives LIBERTY"

Amen.

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more info on how to get out of this mad simulation
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Bullshit .. these human “concepts” have little meaning in the hereafter.
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1. Nonsense. My Dad had a psychotic break and committed suicide years ago. After his death, he came to me twice in dream visitations and I lost count of the number of "paranormal" signs that went on around the house, when he was letting me know he was ok. Also his brother committed suicide years before him, and my Grandmother was walking in the countryside one day when that son appeared to her, as solid as you or I, and let her know he was fine and happy.

2. Maybe don't go into the light ? I think the astral realms are yet another matrix full of false guides and aliens generating fake "loved ones"
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What a great thread. Reminder of what is really going on now. The big picture.
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Excerpt from the same link:

” When a man begins to wake up and starts to see things as they really are, he fears he has gone mad. He realizes that everything he has been taught is lies, that he is surrounded by madmen and sleepwalkers and that he is stuck in a giant concentration camp inhabited by the insane. If this man does not quickly find other men who are awake like him, it is likely he will think about committing suicide in an effort to escape from this prison. That is why most men prefer to remain asleep. Most of them do not want to know the truth: that they are living in a huge mental institution invented and controlled by the Supreme Madman. Only a minority of very brave men will seek out this Special Knowledge capable of waking them up.”

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 Quoting: Zovalex



bump

In the past 8 years Ive met many people who have woken up after actually attempting suicide. They did not expect to wake up but did. They became huge believers in Christ after the experience. With my own eyes I have seen people seeking death and not finding it. Very close to me. I'm sure many others have met or are these people...especially on glp.
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1. Nonsense. My Dad had a psychotic break and committed suicide years ago. After his death, he came to me twice in dream visitations and I lost count of the number of "paranormal" signs that went on around the house, when he was letting me know he was ok. Also his brother committed suicide years before him, and my Grandmother was walking in the countryside one day when that son appeared to her, as solid as you or I, and let her know he was fine and happy.

2. Maybe don't go into the light ? I think the astral realms are yet another matrix full of false guides and aliens generating fake "loved ones"
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If you believe your second statement why do you believe the messages that you and your mother received from your dead loved ones were authentic? It could A be generated by yourselves as wish fullfillment or the attached Astral Archon nonsense you subscribed to. When you see a ghost they want you to see them. They can't communicate unless they had just died and you all had spiritual macht that sadly I don't believe was present here. Sweet dreams.yoda
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I read most of this...all I can say is what a bunch of garbage.

I will spend time now removing what all I read from my mind.

Nobody knows what comes after death. It is all a guess from the imagination of human minds that "must figure something out".

Here is another angle for you:

I knew someone who was retired from government service in the ABC agencies. He swore that the .gov had used remote viewer to look into the future to find GOD and heaven. He swore that there isn't any of either. ...that the remote viewers couldn't see or find anything.

Its all the perspective of the individual and what they want to imagine or believe.

Take your pick.
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Gnostics are heretics bound for Hell.
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I read most of this...all I can say is what a bunch of garbage.

I will spend time now removing what all I read from my mind.

Nobody knows what comes after death. It is all a guess from the imagination of human minds that "must figure something out".

Here is another angle for you:

I knew someone who was retired from government service in the ABC agencies. He swore that the .gov had used remote viewer to look into the future to find GOD and heaven. He swore that there isn't any of either. ...that the remote viewers couldn't see or find anything.

Its all the perspective of the individual and what they want to imagine or believe.

Take your pick.
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I am sorry bud. I don’t have hours to run through everything with you but the idea in your mind that you are some apex creature is a conceit. At best you might be on tail of the bell curve of dull normal. The truth is hard to face. Forget me, let’s use the Dali Lama, he and all his llamas know more about death than you than you know more than they about shooting a basketball or a gun. It’s just how life is. It’s ability which is innate multiplied by the level of your practice. You need both to get to Moshka. If I come around again I will say howdy!dancingmoving
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Any entity in any dimension which dictates harsh punisnment for suicide yet countenances and even encourages torture can go fuck itself.
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