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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76658155 Romania 08/17/2020 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saudi Arabia is willing to consider funding itself in Chinese yuan, a senior Riyadh official said last week as the global oil markets are witnessing a rise of China and its currency. The remarks made by Saudi's Vice Minister of Economy and Planning Mohammed al-Tuwaijri raised the possibility of the renminbi entering the oil kingdom's market. [link to www.chinadaily.com.cn] Thread: Here you Go : Gold-backed yuan may challenge flagging dollar Thread: Powerful China RMB will replace fraudulent usa USD |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76092039 08/17/2020 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China is the "Sick Man of Asia" and has lost face with the whole world. After the fake Chinese Gold scandal the Yuan isn't worth anything. [link to economictimes.indiatimes.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78052087 08/17/2020 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China is the "Sick Man of Asia" and has lost face with the whole world. After the fake Chinese Gold scandal the Yuan isn't worth anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76092039 [link to economictimes.indiatimes.com (secure)] They could only back about .3% of their money supply with gold. |
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User ID: 76760905 United States 08/17/2020 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “In an international monetary system dominated by the U.S. dollar, the unprecedented, unlimited quantitative easing policy of the U.S. actually consumes the creditworthiness of the dollar and erodes the foundation of global financial stability” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76658155 [link to finance.yahoo.com (secure)] Okay, but why didn't they say anything in 2008? Modeling reality |
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User ID: 76760905 United States 08/17/2020 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China is the "Sick Man of Asia" and has lost face with the whole world. After the fake Chinese Gold scandal the Yuan isn't worth anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76092039 [link to economictimes.indiatimes.com (secure)] They could only back about .3% of their money supply with gold. It depends on how much is the exchange of fiat for gold. For instance if the US government revalued gold to $50,000 per ounce it would cover enough of our outstanding debts. Modeling reality |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78052087 08/17/2020 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China is the "Sick Man of Asia" and has lost face with the whole world. After the fake Chinese Gold scandal the Yuan isn't worth anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76092039 [link to economictimes.indiatimes.com (secure)] They could only back about .3% of their money supply with gold. It depends on how much is the exchange of fiat for gold. For instance if the US government revalued gold to $50,000 per ounce it would cover enough of our outstanding debts. Ok, but at current prices, I've done the math. There is no gold-backed Yuan on the horizon. Only on internet conspiracy sites. |
Blenderizer
User ID: 76760905 United States 08/17/2020 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China is the "Sick Man of Asia" and has lost face with the whole world. After the fake Chinese Gold scandal the Yuan isn't worth anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76092039 [link to economictimes.indiatimes.com (secure)] They could only back about .3% of their money supply with gold. It depends on how much is the exchange of fiat for gold. For instance if the US government revalued gold to $50,000 per ounce it would cover enough of our outstanding debts. Ok, but at current prices, I've done the math. There is no gold-backed Yuan on the horizon. Only on internet conspiracy sites. The amount of total debt is really secondary to the nature of fiat currency itself. Banks and governments won't give up the ability to naked short the economy with credit made out of thin air easily. They won't go down without a really nasty fight. But the alternative is to keep going down this unsustainable path until the entire system freezes up. Modeling reality |
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User ID: 77849624 United States 08/17/2020 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Meanwhile, US Stores that Carry Chinese Junk are filled with empty shelves, meaning it is really china that is in collapse. America is rerouting its supply chain to trustworthy nations. If China wants to survive they need to get rid of the CCP. housing sales are booming so large in the USA there is a nationwide shortage Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 08/17/2020 01:25 PM Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78052087 08/17/2020 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It depends on how much is the exchange of fiat for gold. For instance if the US government revalued gold to $50,000 per ounce it would cover enough of our outstanding debts. Ok, but at current prices, I've done the math. There is no gold-backed Yuan on the horizon. Only on internet conspiracy sites. The amount of total debt is really secondary to the nature of fiat currency itself. Banks and governments won't give up the ability to naked short the economy with credit made out of thin air easily. They won't go down without a really nasty fight. But the alternative is to keep going down this unsustainable path until the entire system freezes up. The USD if it is going to be replaced as the international reserve currency will probably be replaced with a basket of currencies (still fiat) among which will be the Yuan. I think the Chinese have been promised a seat at the table for their help with ushering in the NWO by the PTB. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12401807 United States 08/17/2020 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It doesn't matter. Thread: What's really going on? Quoting: Icey Really strange you keep spamming your old op in every thread 4 months later. But even stranger is how you can have 49 pages of karma without one red! And how a person could have a couple dozen reported abuses every single day. Must not work, sleep let alone have a life of any kind. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4999903 United States 08/17/2020 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China is the "Sick Man of Asia" and has lost face with the whole world. After the fake Chinese Gold scandal the Yuan isn't worth anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76092039 [link to economictimes.indiatimes.com (secure)] They could only back about .3% of their money supply with gold. It depends on how much is the exchange of fiat for gold. For instance if the US government revalued gold to $50,000 per ounce it would cover enough of our outstanding debts. If gold were revalued to $50K, the Chinese would be stupendously wealthy, since they have at least 20,000 tons of gold, possibly much more. India, too. U.S.? Hard to say. Depends on whether Fr Knox actually HAS the gold it is supposed to have (probably not, but who knows?) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76658155 Romania 08/17/2020 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “In an international monetary system dominated by the U.S. dollar, the unprecedented, unlimited quantitative easing policy of the U.S. actually consumes the creditworthiness of the dollar and erodes the foundation of global financial stability” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76658155 [link to finance.yahoo.com (secure)] Okay, but why didn't they say anything in 2008? Because they knew USD will not collapse then. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4999903 United States 08/17/2020 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Meanwhile, US Stores that Carry Chinese Junk are filled Quoting: Jake with empty shelves, meaning it is really china that is in collapse. America is rerouting its supply chain to trustworthy nations. If China wants to survive they need to get rid of the CCP. housing sales are booming so large in the USA there is a nationwide shortage Guess what? China does not need the U.S. to anything like the degree it did 20 years ago. Probably does not need the U.S. at all anymore. Why? Internal markets have developed, plus trade with other trading partners has developed, to the point where U.S. is no big deal anymore. I know that American chauvinists HATE to face that, but it is true. As for getting rid of the CCP: WHY? CCP has done a great job for decades. |
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User ID: 76760905 United States 08/17/2020 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Blenderizer It depends on how much is the exchange of fiat for gold. For instance if the US government revalued gold to $50,000 per ounce it would cover enough of our outstanding debts. Ok, but at current prices, I've done the math. There is no gold-backed Yuan on the horizon. Only on internet conspiracy sites. The amount of total debt is really secondary to the nature of fiat currency itself. Banks and governments won't give up the ability to naked short the economy with credit made out of thin air easily. They won't go down without a really nasty fight. But the alternative is to keep going down this unsustainable path until the entire system freezes up. The USD if it is going to be replaced as the international reserve currency will probably be replaced with a basket of currencies (still fiat) among which will be the Yuan. I think the Chinese have been promised a seat at the table for their help with ushering in the NWO by the PTB. True enough I think the Chinese want the SDR to become the new reserve currency and they want the breakdown like: Dollar 25% from 67% Euro 25% Yuan 25% Yen 25% Gold 25% So there would be some partial backing, that breakdown came from James Rickards btw. The big thing is the dollar, going from 67% or 2/3s to 25% or 1/4. That means the dollar will be devalued almost 2/3s it's current purchasing power (in terms of global trade). So a barrel of oil will cost us $121 per barrel in the current purchasing power of the dollar. Modeling reality |
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Forum Moderator User ID: 74890043 United States 08/17/2020 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China is the "Sick Man of Asia" and has lost face with the whole world. After the fake Chinese Gold scandal the Yuan isn't worth anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76092039 [link to economictimes.indiatimes.com (secure)] There is ZERO chance of this ever happening as long as China has a closed capital account. Nobody other than the Chicoms has a clue what assets are in China's capital account. This is total nutter fantasy until China opens up their books for the world to see. Ask yourself why China refuses to open up their books after all this time. LoneStarRising |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78842581 United States 08/17/2020 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Tekton Ok, but at current prices, I've done the math. There is no gold-backed Yuan on the horizon. Only on internet conspiracy sites. The amount of total debt is really secondary to the nature of fiat currency itself. Banks and governments won't give up the ability to naked short the economy with credit made out of thin air easily. They won't go down without a really nasty fight. But the alternative is to keep going down this unsustainable path until the entire system freezes up. The USD if it is going to be replaced as the international reserve currency will probably be replaced with a basket of currencies (still fiat) among which will be the Yuan. I think the Chinese have been promised a seat at the table for their help with ushering in the NWO by the PTB. True enough I think the Chinese want the SDR to become the new reserve currency and they want the breakdown like: Dollar 25% from 67% Euro 25% Yuan 25% Yen 25% Gold 25% So there would be some partial backing, that breakdown came from James Rickards btw. The big thing is the dollar, going from 67% or 2/3s to 25% or 1/4. That means the dollar will be devalued almost 2/3s it's current purchasing power (in terms of global trade). So a barrel of oil will cost us $121 per barrel in the current purchasing power of the dollar. Ok, well that is more realistic than a fully convertible Yuan becoming the sole reserve currency. Sounds like a plausible scenario. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79274757 United States 08/17/2020 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China is the "Sick Man of Asia" and has lost face with the whole world. After the fake Chinese Gold scandal the Yuan isn't worth anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76092039 [link to economictimes.indiatimes.com (secure)] There is ZERO chance of this ever happening as long as China has a closed capital account. Nobody other than the Chicoms has a clue what assets are in China's capital account. This is total nutter fantasy until China opens up their books for the world to see. Ask yourself why China refuses to open up their books after all this time. Yeah exactly. They are fucked and they're not fooling anyone |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79178573 United States 08/17/2020 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Tekton Ok, but at current prices, I've done the math. There is no gold-backed Yuan on the horizon. Only on internet conspiracy sites. The amount of total debt is really secondary to the nature of fiat currency itself. Banks and governments won't give up the ability to naked short the economy with credit made out of thin air easily. They won't go down without a really nasty fight. But the alternative is to keep going down this unsustainable path until the entire system freezes up. The USD if it is going to be replaced as the international reserve currency will probably be replaced with a basket of currencies (still fiat) among which will be the Yuan. I think the Chinese have been promised a seat at the table for their help with ushering in the NWO by the PTB. True enough I think the Chinese want the SDR to become the new reserve currency and they want the breakdown like: Dollar 25% from 67% Euro 25% Yuan 25% Yen 25% Gold 25% So there would be some partial backing, that breakdown came from James Rickards btw. The big thing is the dollar, going from 67% or 2/3s to 25% or 1/4. That means the dollar will be devalued almost 2/3s it's current purchasing power (in terms of global trade). So a barrel of oil will cost us $121 per barrel in the current purchasing power of the dollar. Yep, you understand what's happening. Except the SDR can't be made up of 125% ;) 20% across the board would be the correct figure for the digital SDR for cross-border trade. The SDR isn't going to be domestic currency, just the unit of international trade. |