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China warns about the collapse of USD
“In an international monetary system dominated by the U.S. dollar, the unprecedented, unlimited quantitative easing policy of the U.S. actually consumes the creditworthiness of the dollar and erodes the foundation of global financial stability”
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Saudi Arabia is willing to consider funding itself in Chinese yuan, a senior Riyadh official said last week as the global oil markets are witnessing a rise of China and its currency.
The remarks made by Saudi's Vice Minister of Economy and Planning Mohammed al-Tuwaijri raised the possibility of the renminbi entering the oil kingdom's market.
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China is the "Sick Man of Asia" and has lost face with the whole world. After the fake Chinese Gold scandal the Yuan isn't worth anything.


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Nope

Wont happen
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USA warns about the collapse of CCP. Tick tock you shit will stop.
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It doesn't matter. Thread: What's really going on?
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Re: China warns about the collapse of USD
If the USD does collapse, China will either have to devalue its Yuan or write off exports to America (one of its largest customers) entirely.


Quite a predicament.



They have helped kill their own golden goose, it appears.
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fuck china..nuff said
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China is the "Sick Man of Asia" and has lost face with the whole world. After the fake Chinese Gold scandal the Yuan isn't worth anything.


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They could only back about .3% of their money supply with gold.
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fuck china..nuff said
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Re: China warns about the collapse of USD
“In an international monetary system dominated by the U.S. dollar, the unprecedented, unlimited quantitative easing policy of the U.S. actually consumes the creditworthiness of the dollar and erodes the foundation of global financial stability”
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Okay, but why didn't they say anything in 2008?
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China is the "Sick Man of Asia" and has lost face with the whole world. After the fake Chinese Gold scandal the Yuan isn't worth anything.


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They could only back about .3% of their money supply with gold.
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It depends on how much is the exchange of fiat for gold. For instance if the US government revalued gold to $50,000 per ounce it would cover enough of our outstanding debts.
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China is the "Sick Man of Asia" and has lost face with the whole world. After the fake Chinese Gold scandal the Yuan isn't worth anything.


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They could only back about .3% of their money supply with gold.
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It depends on how much is the exchange of fiat for gold. For instance if the US government revalued gold to $50,000 per ounce it would cover enough of our outstanding debts.
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Ok, but at current prices, I've done the math.

There is no gold-backed Yuan on the horizon.

Only on internet conspiracy sites.
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China is the "Sick Man of Asia" and has lost face with the whole world. After the fake Chinese Gold scandal the Yuan isn't worth anything.


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They could only back about .3% of their money supply with gold.
 Quoting: Tekton


It depends on how much is the exchange of fiat for gold. For instance if the US government revalued gold to $50,000 per ounce it would cover enough of our outstanding debts.
 Quoting: Blenderizer


Ok, but at current prices, I've done the math.

There is no gold-backed Yuan on the horizon.

Only on internet conspiracy sites.
 Quoting: Tekton


The amount of total debt is really secondary to the nature of fiat currency itself. Banks and governments won't give up the ability to naked short the economy with credit made out of thin air easily.

They won't go down without a really nasty fight. But the alternative is to keep going down this unsustainable path until the entire system freezes up.
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Meanwhile, US Stores that Carry Chinese Junk are filled

with empty shelves, meaning it is really china that is in

collapse. America is rerouting its supply chain to trustworthy nations.

If China wants to survive they need to get rid of the CCP.

housing sales are booming so large in the USA there is a nationwide shortage

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They could only back about .3% of their money supply with gold.
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It depends on how much is the exchange of fiat for gold. For instance if the US government revalued gold to $50,000 per ounce it would cover enough of our outstanding debts.
 Quoting: Blenderizer


Ok, but at current prices, I've done the math.

There is no gold-backed Yuan on the horizon.

Only on internet conspiracy sites.
 Quoting: Tekton


The amount of total debt is really secondary to the nature of fiat currency itself. Banks and governments won't give up the ability to naked short the economy with credit made out of thin air easily.

They won't go down without a really nasty fight. But the alternative is to keep going down this unsustainable path until the entire system freezes up.
 Quoting: Blenderizer

The USD if it is going to be replaced as the international reserve currency will probably be replaced with a basket of currencies (still fiat) among which will be the Yuan.

I think the Chinese have been promised a seat at the table for their help with ushering in the NWO by the PTB.
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Really strange you keep spamming your old op in every thread 4 months later. But even stranger is how you can have 49 pages of karma without one red! And how a person could have a couple dozen reported abuses every single day. Must not work, sleep let alone have a life of any kind.
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China is the "Sick Man of Asia" and has lost face with the whole world.
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WAS the "sick man of Asia", for a century up to the revolution in 1948. Certainly is not so anymore! Now the powerhouse of Asia, destined for regional and world supremacy this century.
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China is the "Sick Man of Asia" and has lost face with the whole world. After the fake Chinese Gold scandal the Yuan isn't worth anything.


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They could only back about .3% of their money supply with gold.
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It depends on how much is the exchange of fiat for gold. For instance if the US government revalued gold to $50,000 per ounce it would cover enough of our outstanding debts.
 Quoting: Blenderizer


If gold were revalued to $50K, the Chinese would be stupendously wealthy, since they have at least 20,000 tons of gold, possibly much more. India, too. U.S.? Hard to say. Depends on whether Fr Knox actually HAS the gold it is supposed to have (probably not, but who knows?)
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Re: China warns about the collapse of USD
“In an international monetary system dominated by the U.S. dollar, the unprecedented, unlimited quantitative easing policy of the U.S. actually consumes the creditworthiness of the dollar and erodes the foundation of global financial stability”
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Okay, but why didn't they say anything in 2008?
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Because they knew USD will not collapse then.
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Meanwhile, US Stores that Carry Chinese Junk are filled
with empty shelves, meaning it is really china that is in
collapse. America is rerouting its supply chain to trustworthy nations.
If China wants to survive they need to get rid of the CCP.
housing sales are booming so large in the USA there is a nationwide shortage
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Guess what? China does not need the U.S. to anything like the degree it did 20 years ago. Probably does not need the U.S. at all anymore. Why? Internal markets have developed, plus trade with other trading partners has developed, to the point where U.S. is no big deal anymore. I know that American chauvinists HATE to face that, but it is true.

As for getting rid of the CCP: WHY? CCP has done a great job for decades.
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Organized crime has moved from fiat to crypto. It is now time to put the final nail in the USD coffin. It will usher in cashless society for the world.
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It depends on how much is the exchange of fiat for gold. For instance if the US government revalued gold to $50,000 per ounce it would cover enough of our outstanding debts.
 Quoting: Blenderizer


Ok, but at current prices, I've done the math.

There is no gold-backed Yuan on the horizon.

Only on internet conspiracy sites.
 Quoting: Tekton


The amount of total debt is really secondary to the nature of fiat currency itself. Banks and governments won't give up the ability to naked short the economy with credit made out of thin air easily.

They won't go down without a really nasty fight. But the alternative is to keep going down this unsustainable path until the entire system freezes up.
 Quoting: Blenderizer

The USD if it is going to be replaced as the international reserve currency will probably be replaced with a basket of currencies (still fiat) among which will be the Yuan.

I think the Chinese have been promised a seat at the table for their help with ushering in the NWO by the PTB.
 Quoting: Tekton


True enough I think the Chinese want the SDR to become the new reserve currency and they want the breakdown like:

Dollar 25% from 67%
Euro 25%
Yuan 25%
Yen 25%
Gold 25%

So there would be some partial backing, that breakdown came from James Rickards btw.

The big thing is the dollar, going from 67% or 2/3s to 25% or 1/4. That means the dollar will be devalued almost 2/3s it's current purchasing power (in terms of global trade). So a barrel of oil will cost us $121 per barrel in the current purchasing power of the dollar.
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Organized crime has moved from fiat to crypto. It is now time to put the final nail in the USD coffin. It will usher in cashless society for the world.
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Nope

Wont happen
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Um yeah it's happening.
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Nope

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China is the "Sick Man of Asia" and has lost face with the whole world. After the fake Chinese Gold scandal the Yuan isn't worth anything.


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There is ZERO chance of this ever happening as long as China has a closed capital account. Nobody other than the Chicoms has a clue what assets are in China's capital account. This is total nutter fantasy until China opens up their books for the world to see.

Ask yourself why China refuses to open up their books after all this time.
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The Chinese economy can collapse any minute.

They are talking shit.
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Ok, but at current prices, I've done the math.

There is no gold-backed Yuan on the horizon.

Only on internet conspiracy sites.
 Quoting: Tekton


The amount of total debt is really secondary to the nature of fiat currency itself. Banks and governments won't give up the ability to naked short the economy with credit made out of thin air easily.

They won't go down without a really nasty fight. But the alternative is to keep going down this unsustainable path until the entire system freezes up.
 Quoting: Blenderizer

The USD if it is going to be replaced as the international reserve currency will probably be replaced with a basket of currencies (still fiat) among which will be the Yuan.

I think the Chinese have been promised a seat at the table for their help with ushering in the NWO by the PTB.
 Quoting: Tekton


True enough I think the Chinese want the SDR to become the new reserve currency and they want the breakdown like:

Dollar 25% from 67%
Euro 25%
Yuan 25%
Yen 25%
Gold 25%

So there would be some partial backing, that breakdown came from James Rickards btw.

The big thing is the dollar, going from 67% or 2/3s to 25% or 1/4. That means the dollar will be devalued almost 2/3s it's current purchasing power (in terms of global trade). So a barrel of oil will cost us $121 per barrel in the current purchasing power of the dollar.
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Ok, well that is more realistic than a fully convertible Yuan becoming the sole reserve currency.

Sounds like a plausible scenario.
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China is the "Sick Man of Asia" and has lost face with the whole world. After the fake Chinese Gold scandal the Yuan isn't worth anything.


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There is ZERO chance of this ever happening as long as China has a closed capital account. Nobody other than the Chicoms has a clue what assets are in China's capital account. This is total nutter fantasy until China opens up their books for the world to see.

Ask yourself why China refuses to open up their books after all this time.
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Yeah exactly.

They are fucked and they're not fooling anyone
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Ok, but at current prices, I've done the math.

There is no gold-backed Yuan on the horizon.

Only on internet conspiracy sites.
 Quoting: Tekton


The amount of total debt is really secondary to the nature of fiat currency itself. Banks and governments won't give up the ability to naked short the economy with credit made out of thin air easily.

They won't go down without a really nasty fight. But the alternative is to keep going down this unsustainable path until the entire system freezes up.
 Quoting: Blenderizer

The USD if it is going to be replaced as the international reserve currency will probably be replaced with a basket of currencies (still fiat) among which will be the Yuan.

I think the Chinese have been promised a seat at the table for their help with ushering in the NWO by the PTB.
 Quoting: Tekton


True enough I think the Chinese want the SDR to become the new reserve currency and they want the breakdown like:

Dollar 25% from 67%
Euro 25%
Yuan 25%
Yen 25%
Gold 25%

So there would be some partial backing, that breakdown came from James Rickards btw.

The big thing is the dollar, going from 67% or 2/3s to 25% or 1/4. That means the dollar will be devalued almost 2/3s it's current purchasing power (in terms of global trade). So a barrel of oil will cost us $121 per barrel in the current purchasing power of the dollar.
 Quoting: Blenderizer


Yep, you understand what's happening. Except the SDR can't be made up of 125% ;) 20% across the board would be the correct figure for the digital SDR for cross-border trade. The SDR isn't going to be domestic currency, just the unit of international trade.





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