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wtf, i just now noticed that this had blown up, ummm, gimme a sec...
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wtf, i just now noticed that this had blown up, ummm, gimme a sec...
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What are you blowing up today? Yourself, as usual?
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Does a virgo new moon really bring 'stabilizing energy'?
I just wonder because..well, some of the virgo types I know like to organize and plan but never really quite get there and then it ends up a bit messier than ever.

So it seems to be sort of a conundrum.
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How a new moon will affect or be capitalized upon by a given individual is going to be dependent upon which house it sits in that person's nativity (nativity is fancy speak for chart).

When it comes to bringing plans to fruition, that is a cadent house thing - which would be the third, sixth, ninth, and twelfth houses. Virgo is the natural sixth house, so to some extent, sure - I would say stabilizing energy is a potential. The sixth house is the last stage of development when it comes to one's inner world.
When the flow ingresses (changes sign) to Libra is where relating with others begins. What takes place in the sixth is a finalization of our part in a matter, it is where we decide what we give of ourselves to others, and to ourselves through the interactions we initiate or welcome into our lives. Analytical and methodical are closer root keywords than stabilizing in my opinion.

New moons typically are construed to be an ideal time for starting something new or making a conscious effort to re-focus on a pre-existing conundrum, though, so what you're looking at with the next lunation (lunation is fancy speak for a cycle of the moon) is the 'harvest' phase of the cycle taking place on Oct 9th in Cancer @ 17 degrees. If 17 Cancer sits in a cadent house of the aforementioned Virgo types, then theory is that the potential for follow-through of plans made / intentions set during the time of the new moon is at it's best.
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Mars in Aries until Jan. 6



High likelihood for a major war to start before then.
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I disagree.

The war-like attribution to Mars is derived from it's dignity within the sign of Scorpio. Pluto does not rule Scorpio; that is new-age over-complication from people who don't understand that something that is not broken requires no fixing. The kind of battles that take place in Aries happen in the mirror, where we form an image of who we are and what we stand for. Passion is what Mars is all about, and without doubt passionate beliefs about ourselves and others does play a significant role in conflict that escalates to war. Mars in Scorpio, though, is where that passion is instigated to be enforced upon others when malcontent weighs heavy on the heart.
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wtf, i just now noticed that this had blown up, ummm, gimme a sec...
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What are you blowing up today? Yourself, as usual?
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As usual?

I'm flattered to be watched so.
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Mars in Aries until Jan. 6



High likelihood for a major war to start before then.
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I disagree.

The war-like attribution to Mars is derived from it's dignity within the sign of Scorpio. Pluto does not rule Scorpio; that is new-age over-complication from people who don't understand that something that is not broken requires no fixing. The kind of battles that take place in Aries happen in the mirror, where we form an image of who we are and what we stand for. Passion is what Mars is all about, and without doubt passionate beliefs about ourselves and others does play a significant role in conflict that escalates to war. Mars in Scorpio, though, is where that passion is instigated to be enforced upon others when malcontent weighs heavy on the heart.
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Time will tell.


Passion and war are intimately connected, imo.
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But I am derailing the thread.
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I see no such thing, as long as discussions are respectful.

There is insight to be gleaned through everything, and everyone has their own way of seeing and describing it.


Songs for instance, an example of Moon square Venus:

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Looking further into the matter of what may come of Mars in Aries is the important fact that it is square Saturn now, when Saturn turns direct on Sep. 29th, and still on until the middle of October.

Any hard aspect to Saturn denotes a difficulty in manifestation of the planet aspecting it, especially when Saturn is in it's domicile.

After Mars turns direct, it again will square Saturn with 0 orb on Jan. 13th.

Until then, it would be interesting to learn of any troubles people may be having initiating new plans, redefining themselves, and/or having any sort of meaningful impact when it comes to what they're passionate about.
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But I am derailing the thread.
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I see no such thing, as long as discussions are respectful.

There is insight to be gleaned through everything, and everyone has their own way of seeing and describing it.


Songs for instance, an example of Moon square Venus:


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^this
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Thus!
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Typical BLUENAME post right here.
Are you enjoying retirement
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yep
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Looking further into the matter of what may come of Mars in Aries is the important fact that it is square Saturn now, when Saturn turns direct on Sep. 29th, and still on until the middle of October.

Any hard aspect to Saturn denotes a difficulty in manifestation of the planet aspecting it, especially when Saturn is in it's domicile.

After Mars turns direct, it again will square Saturn with 0 orb on Jan. 13th.

Until then, it would be interesting to learn of any troubles people may be having initiating new plans, redefining themselves, and/or having any sort of meaningful impact when it comes to what they're passionate about.
 Quoting: deafcat


Again, not exactly on topic..but for myself there is more than the usual sense of importance of fall preps. I feel a foreboding of the chaos/possibility of war that was discussed earlier in the thread and although I am fairly well prepped I keep feeling as if I am forgetting something. Maybe it is because not everyone from our family unit is under one roof at the moment, or maybe it is because if I lose this one connection (the internet/phone) I will lose most ties with 'outside' other than my work? Maybe just true of any person who doesn't feel that they are embedded in their community..I am an asset to my locale but it is purely on a professional level. GLP is kind of an island of misfit toys and some of the most real connections are surreal. lol or maybe that is backwards.

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Looking further into the matter of what may come of Mars in Aries is the important fact that it is square Saturn now, when Saturn turns direct on Sep. 29th, and still on until the middle of October.

Any hard aspect to Saturn denotes a difficulty in manifestation of the planet aspecting it, especially when Saturn is in it's domicile.

After Mars turns direct, it again will square Saturn with 0 orb on Jan. 13th.

Until then, it would be interesting to learn of any troubles people may be having initiating new plans, redefining themselves, and/or having any sort of meaningful impact when it comes to what they're passionate about.
 Quoting: deafcat


Again, not exactly on topic..but for myself there is more than the usual sense of importance of fall preps. I feel a foreboding of the chaos/possibility of war that was discussed earlier in the thread and although I am fairly well prepped I keep feeling as if I am forgetting something. Maybe it is because not everyone from our family unit is under one roof at the moment, or maybe it is because if I lose this one connection (the internet/phone) I will lose most ties with 'outside' other than my work? Maybe just true of any person who doesn't feel that they are embedded in their community..I am an asset to my locale but it is purely on a professional level. GLP is kind of an island of misfit toys and some of the most real connections are surreal. lol or maybe that is backwards.

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Considering the Jupiter-Pluto-Saturn conjunction is transiting your 4th house of home/family/personal security... Saturn first entered your 4th house in Dec, 2018. Reflecting back on what was happening then in light of the current situation could be revealing ado with that feeling of missing something.

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If you're one to look upon the wandering stars as portents of the divine, then welcome. Insights, musings, queries, or banter - whatever of which you wish to chime is fine.

Right now, the only thing on my mind is wondering whether or not clouds are going to spoil yet another chance to get a frame of the greater malefic/benefic - luna goat sandwich iwish
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They will continue to till there purpose is fulfilled.
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Considering the Jupiter-Pluto-Saturn conjunction is transiting your 4th house of home/family/personal security... Saturn first entered your 4th house in Dec, 2018. Reflecting back on what was happening then in light of the current situation could be revealing ado with that feeling of missing something.

hugs
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Thanks.
does not help the foreboding to do that

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Right now marks the time in the third to last lunation wherein the Moon will pass through the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction in Capricorn.

Being the greater benefic planet, Jupiter stands across as a sort of duality to the greater malefic, Saturn.

Being the cardinal modality of the element earth, Capricorn governs the areas in life where we face our physical limitations, and the conjunction of the two planets represents an impetus to merge and strike a balance between faith and rationality ado with these matters.

What one resists tends to persist, and so those struggling now on the deepest level are likely to be those who rely solely upon faith or rationality when it comes to their own personal physical strengths, capabilities, and responsibilities, especially when it comes to down-to-earth matters of the physical foundations one's life is built upon.


Having an angle (ascendant/descendant/midheaven/imum coeli), sun, or moon in the late degrees of Capricorn would convey a particularly strong reaction to the influences at hand. Cardinal signs are creative and intuitive, and so creative outlets will play a key role in moving through this and into the transition toward Aquarius. Between now and the final lunation to move through this Capricorn conjunction on Dec. 17th, it may be altogether too easy to rationalize away creative pursuits that may have ceased to serve a continual purpose - or on the other hand, to jump headwind into no-holds-barred faith in new pursuits the purpose of which one is unsure of.

Self-sufficiency is the keynote, and what is likely to be challenged through external forces and circumstances beyond one's control. Opportunity may abound in too-good-to-be-true irrational hope for sudden change while, at the same time, hopelessness may creep in within where one's fortitude has been known to be.

The crossroad of paths/activities between where faith has steered true and rational dedication has proven worthwhile is where one might discover the yellow bricks on foot under, weathering away the conflict asunder.
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Parallels in time are always interesting to bear in mind, and in February of 1961 was a Jupiter-Saturn conjunction in Capricorn.

It was in 1961 that civil rights activists, called the Freedom Riders, took interstate buses into segregated southern states to protest, march, and riot.

Some were beaten by the KKK.

Some were arrested for disturbing the peace when arriving at their destination.

The governor of Alabama declared martial law on May 21st as a result of the conflicts, when Saturn was in retrograde in Capricorn and Jupiter direct in Aquarius a few months after the conjunction.
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venus opposite jupiter:



eta: how is the saturn transit over rahu going for you? are you deliberately engaging in redefining your professional self-image or sense a change in this regard on the horizon?
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Mercury retrograde!!!

From the generalized tidbits designed for mass consumption and the paradigm they portray, one may wonder why such a time is exciting to see come around from my own perspective, but bear with me, perhaps some other day I may share why it is I've come to realize the paradox within myself that's amiss...


The utmost important time to take into account when considering the potential impart of this incoming sequence of events is when Mercury entered the shadow of the retrograde period. In other words, the first time to consider is when it first crossed the ecliptic degree that it will be at when it turns direct at the end of the retrograde period.

For this retrograde, that shadow period began on Sep. 23rd at around 5 PM (all times of day I will refer to are my local time - EST or EDT) when Mercury was in the later portion of the twenty-sixth degree of Libra, where Mercury is comfortable from an elemental point of view but is granted no dignity at all per Ptolemaic rules. One could say, then, that this retrograde shadow began when Mercury was peregrine. The term peregrine has been modified by modern, one could say liberal, astrologers to denote a planet forming no aspects to another planet but this is simply wrong. The term peregrine was first applied to denote a planet with no dignity at the degree it is observed. I suspect a while back, a vocal group of modern astrologers inept at applying mathematical and astronomical calculations to the movement of planets took the lazy route of solely visual impressions and intuitive divination of chart aspects calculated for them by others' software and modified the meaning of the term to work with their own misinterpretation of the meaning of planetary dignity and debility when catering to a similarly inept and ignorant audience they sought to con into forking over cash for readings of charts and personal guidance.

but I digress...

The point being of taking note of when we entered the shadow is to reflect upon mishaps ado with communication from this point through to when Mercury turns retrograde this evening around 8 PM.

If you're like me and you see these things coming, you make every effort to remain silent, or at least neutral, in your dealings with other people, particularly when it comes to interactions laden with emotion, past sour interactions, hard feelings, conflicted opinion, etc.

You may slip up and be short and want to move forward, but the messenger of the gods has a different agenda once it has begun its backtrack of the shadow. If you find yourself frustrated with technological glitches, delays in meetings, lost deliveries, or set-backs in medical treatments to name a few, chances are you are avoiding the call to focus on your own communicative shortcomings.


Very interesting to note is the fact that when the Sun is seen at the shadow's beginning, in the early afternoon of Oct. 18, Mercury is opposite Uranus along the Scorpio/Taurus axis respectively. This axis speaks deeply to energy and values - what we may gather with the expenditure of our own energy/efforts and how we may benefit through the exchange of goods/services/affection/attention with others. There is a decidedly strong potential for the realization of sudden inspiration ado with such matters, especially when it comes to discernment of what is in one's best interests as Venus moves into opposition with Neptune in Virgo and Pisces respectively earlier on this same day.

One could say that the stars will soon align in a way that can make it easy for one to either remove rose colored glasses ado with what has been communicated to be fair, just, and balanced or for one to become part of a potential for a great deception ado with what is fair, just, and balanced. The deciding factor may very well be how able one is to step outside of oneself and relate to one's own position in life from a viewpoint free from that to which the ego is attached, and to consider objectively whether moving forward necessitates how to be served or rather how to serve.


The end of the shadow, when Mercury turns retrograde takes place within the twelfth degree of Scorpio, where it again is peregrine. The sun is at this same degree on Nov. 3rd when Mercury turns direct in the late afternoon. Most won't get the message truth attempts to cry out within this opportunity despite how fairly and deeply it may be presented, myself included for all I know at this point.

I'd venture to conspire this is the sort of astrological 'coincidence' that could be used to manifest a manipulation of an experiential timewarp, wherein several weeks of events can either be wiped from the conscious awareness of the masses or targeted for subliminal imprinting to control emotionally-driven decisions.


For musing purposes, these are the sabian symbols of the retrograde degrees:

shadow start: An Airplane Sails, High In The Clear Sky
shadow end: An Official Embassy Ball
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loads of duality going on. Is that always present in the stars then or is it increasing in frequency? is there correlation or is it causation or merely incidental?

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Now seems a good time to mention how much I enjoy the distinction between the terms duality and dichotomy.

I see dichotomous influences that abound in near every aspect of life, but this does not necessarily mean that they are in conflict with each other.
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...and since there's nothing transiting my Leo Jupiter/Regulus/Midheaven conjunction, and the risk of fall aligned in semi-sextile to my chart ruler in fall is so slim, a bit of superfluous, arguably time-denoted spammish, self-plugging of my own by-the-wayside Libraesque association-within-association sort of correlation-far-beyond-most-realms-of-thought-if-but-for-a-si​ngle-word correlation's sake...

Thread: Ana and Kata - the dichotomy of chaos

I almost didn't recognize my own thoughts in that ^ thread when having a read through it yesterday.

I would say it seems I've fallen deeply into focus upon worldly matters, and that when I have done so for some time, it seems my anger and impatience are more tempered with those for whom I have love to share, and more righteous towards the cunts that to cross me will dare.
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call me curious...

How was your life about to soon change 19 years ago this day? What about now? Do the landmarks in your path relate?

Both days have a solar eclipse in the same twentieth degree of gemini. The latter involving a conjunction with chronos, today's with mercury.





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