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[UPDATED 10-5-20] Yes, We Have Been SCAMMED. We Need A FULL Audit Of America's Coronavirus Testing and THIS Is How We Do It..................

 
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As of the time of this post, there are a total of approximately 6.75 Million "positive" cases for coronavirus in the United States. Seeing that the current CT (cycle threshold) value is "40" for virtually every test, it's now clear that we should demand a complete audit of America's PCR testing so that we can determine how many of these cases had an initial cycle threshold of 30 or higher. Such an audit can obviously be done, and it can be done without compromising a single patient's privacy. Given it's significance, I can't imagine that the CT value not being automatically included with your PCR test, is just a simple and honest mishap of the system.

..."Tests with thresholds so high may detect not just live virus but also genetic fragments, leftovers from infection that pose no particular risk"...

..."They aren’t contagious at the time of the test and, therefore, do not need quarantining as their chance of infecting others is almost non-existent"...

..."set the figure at 30, or even less"...

Source: [link to swarajyamag.com (secure)]

..."SARS-CoV-2 Vero cell infectivity was only observed for RT-PCR Ct < 24"...

Source: [link to academic.oup.com (secure)]

..."Infectivity (defined as growth in cell culture) was significantly reduced when RT-PCR Ct values were over 24"...

Source: [link to www.cebm.net (secure)]

..."According to Fauci, the chances that the viral material detected is infectious or "replication competent" is miniscule and this threshold value can be interpreted to mean a patient is not contagious"...

Source: [link to epimonitor.net]

..."Patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) with Ct above 33 to 34 are not contagious"...

Source: [link to www.infectiousdiseaseadvisor.com (secure)]

..."A more reasonable cutoff would be 30 to 35, she added. Dr. Mina said he would set the figure at 30, or even less"...

Source: [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

+ Countless more...


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As of the time of this post, there are a total of approximately 6.75 Million "positive" cases for coronavirus in the United States. Seeing that the current CT (cycle threshold) value is "40" for virtually every test, it's now clear that we should demand a complete audit of America's PCR testing so that we can determine how many of these cases had an initial cycle threshold of 30 or higher. Such an audit can obviously be done, and it can be done without compromising a single patient's privacy. Given it's significance, I can't imagine that the CT value not being automatically included with your PCR test, is just a simple and honest mishap of the system.

..."Tests with thresholds so high may detect not just live virus but also genetic fragments, leftovers from infection that pose no particular risk"...

..."They aren’t contagious at the time of the test and, therefore, do not need quarantining as their chance of infecting others is almost non-existent"...

..."set the figure at 30, or even less"...

Source: [link to swarajyamag.com (secure)]

..."SARS-CoV-2 Vero cell infectivity was only observed for RT-PCR Ct < 24"...

Source: [link to academic.oup.com (secure)]

..."Infectivity (defined as growth in cell culture) was significantly reduced when RT-PCR Ct values were over 24"...

Source: [link to www.cebm.net (secure)]

..."According to Fauci, the chances that the viral material detected is infectious or "replication competent" is miniscule and this threshold value can be interpreted to mean a patient is not contagious"...

Source: [link to epimonitor.net]

..."Patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) with Ct above 33 to 34 are not contagious"...

Source: [link to www.infectiousdiseaseadvisor.com (secure)]

..."A more reasonable cutoff would be 30 to 35, she added. Dr. Mina said he would set the figure at 30, or even less"...

Source: [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

+ Countless more...

 Quoting: Dr. Calhoun


Holy shit.

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YESSSSSSSSSSS!!! 5 * OP FIVE FRIGGIN STARS.

SOMEONE NEEDS TO GET THIS INFO TO TRUMP
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This is actually a pretty brilliant idea if you think about it. There's only a handful of labs that are managing most of the tests. Getting that ct info is just a number, right? Shouldn't be too difficult to count them all up. I have a feeling that they won't do this tho
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So what’s in this Moderna vaccine?
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As of the time of this post, there are a total of approximately 6.75 Million "positive" cases for coronavirus in the United States. Seeing that the current CT (cycle threshold) value is "40" for virtually every test, it's now clear that we should demand a complete audit of America's PCR testing so that we can determine how many of these cases had an initial cycle threshold of 30 or higher. Such an audit can obviously be done, and it can be done without compromising a single patient's privacy. Given it's significance, I can't imagine that the CT value not being automatically included with your PCR test, is just a simple and honest mishap of the system.

..."Tests with thresholds so high may detect not just live virus but also genetic fragments, leftovers from infection that pose no particular risk"...

..."They aren’t contagious at the time of the test and, therefore, do not need quarantining as their chance of infecting others is almost non-existent"...

..."set the figure at 30, or even less"...

Source: [link to swarajyamag.com (secure)]

..."SARS-CoV-2 Vero cell infectivity was only observed for RT-PCR Ct < 24"...

Source: [link to academic.oup.com (secure)]

..."Infectivity (defined as growth in cell culture) was significantly reduced when RT-PCR Ct values were over 24"...

Source: [link to www.cebm.net (secure)]

..."According to Fauci, the chances that the viral material detected is infectious or "replication competent" is miniscule and this threshold value can be interpreted to mean a patient is not contagious"...

Source: [link to epimonitor.net]

..."Patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) with Ct above 33 to 34 are not contagious"...

Source: [link to www.infectiousdiseaseadvisor.com (secure)]

..."A more reasonable cutoff would be 30 to 35, she added. Dr. Mina said he would set the figure at 30, or even less"...

Source: [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

+ Countless more...

 Quoting: Dr. Calhoun


I think this is waaay over most peoples heads here OP. Can you break this shit down more for the simpletons?
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YESSSSSSSSSSS!!! 5 * OP FIVE FRIGGIN STARS.

SOMEONE NEEDS TO GET THIS INFO TO TRUMP
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Your idea. You do it.
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There's a lawsuit filed against the State of Ohio and its corrupt governor to audit his testing that closely matches the spike in cases, not hospital beds and deaths. Looks to be solid lawsuit against the dictator.

Good short read about the auditing and the lawsuit here

[link to www.activistpost.com (secure)]


Check out the 14th Amendment angle, too


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they can also detect fragments of a previous coronavirus which is not covid 19
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As of the time of this post, there are a total of approximately 6.75 Million "positive" cases for coronavirus in the United States. Seeing that the current CT (cycle threshold) value is "40" for virtually every test, it's now clear that we should demand a complete audit of America's PCR testing so that we can determine how many of these cases had an initial cycle threshold of 30 or higher. Such an audit can obviously be done, and it can be done without compromising a single patient's privacy. Given it's significance, I can't imagine that the CT value not being automatically included with your PCR test, is just a simple and honest mishap of the system.

..."Tests with thresholds so high may detect not just live virus but also genetic fragments, leftovers from infection that pose no particular risk"...

..."They aren’t contagious at the time of the test and, therefore, do not need quarantining as their chance of infecting others is almost non-existent"...

..."set the figure at 30, or even less"...

Source: [link to swarajyamag.com (secure)]

..."SARS-CoV-2 Vero cell infectivity was only observed for RT-PCR Ct < 24"...

Source: [link to academic.oup.com (secure)]

..."Infectivity (defined as growth in cell culture) was significantly reduced when RT-PCR Ct values were over 24"...

Source: [link to www.cebm.net (secure)]

..."According to Fauci, the chances that the viral material detected is infectious or "replication competent" is miniscule and this threshold value can be interpreted to mean a patient is not contagious"...

Source: [link to epimonitor.net]

..."Patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) with Ct above 33 to 34 are not contagious"...

Source: [link to www.infectiousdiseaseadvisor.com (secure)]

..."A more reasonable cutoff would be 30 to 35, she added. Dr. Mina said he would set the figure at 30, or even less"...

Source: [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

+ Countless more...

 Quoting: Dr. Calhoun


I think this is waaay over most peoples heads here OP. Can you break this shit down more for the simpletons?
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I'll try. Basically, the lab worker keeps running the same test over and over again until they can find a positive result. It can take as many as 30 to 40 runs before anything shows up that can be considered positive and even then it is LITERALLY still a guess that is being made based on diagnostics that were never designed to test for ANY viruses at all. They just resubmit the same test over and over until they can see "something" that they can call positive. It's a phony guess based on a flawed test. Period.
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As of the time of this post, there are a total of approximately 6.75 Million "positive" cases for coronavirus in the United States. Seeing that the current CT (cycle threshold) value is "40" for virtually every test, it's now clear that we should demand a complete audit of America's PCR testing so that we can determine how many of these cases had an initial cycle threshold of 30 or higher. Such an audit can obviously be done, and it can be done without compromising a single patient's privacy. Given it's significance, I can't imagine that the CT value not being automatically included with your PCR test, is just a simple and honest mishap of the system.

..."Tests with thresholds so high may detect not just live virus but also genetic fragments, leftovers from infection that pose no particular risk"...

..."They aren’t contagious at the time of the test and, therefore, do not need quarantining as their chance of infecting others is almost non-existent"...

..."set the figure at 30, or even less"...

Source: [link to swarajyamag.com (secure)]

..."SARS-CoV-2 Vero cell infectivity was only observed for RT-PCR Ct < 24"...

Source: [link to academic.oup.com (secure)]

..."Infectivity (defined as growth in cell culture) was significantly reduced when RT-PCR Ct values were over 24"...

Source: [link to www.cebm.net (secure)]

..."According to Fauci, the chances that the viral material detected is infectious or "replication competent" is miniscule and this threshold value can be interpreted to mean a patient is not contagious"...

Source: [link to epimonitor.net]

..."Patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) with Ct above 33 to 34 are not contagious"...

Source: [link to www.infectiousdiseaseadvisor.com (secure)]

..."A more reasonable cutoff would be 30 to 35, she added. Dr. Mina said he would set the figure at 30, or even less"...

Source: [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

+ Countless more...

 Quoting: Dr. Calhoun


I think this is waaay over most peoples heads here OP. Can you break this shit down more for the simpletons?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77691408


I'll try. Basically, the lab worker keeps running the same test over and over again until they can find a positive result. It can take as many as 30 to 40 runs before anything shows up that can be considered positive and even then it is LITERALLY still a guess that is being made based on diagnostics that were never designed to test for ANY viruses at all. They just resubmit the same test over and over until they can see "something" that they can call positive. It's a phony guess based on a flawed test. Period.
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We had a lady at our local hospital who had stage 3 cancer

was in and out of the hospital for pneumonia 7 times in 4 weeks..

They tested her 6 times for Covid19 all 6 came back negative.

On the 7th time she returned to the hospital, again with Pneumonia, they tested her again.

This time it came back Positive for covid. she died 8 hours later.

How are any of these tests reliable?

Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 09/19/2020 12:53 AM
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I think this is waaay over most peoples heads here OP. Can you break this shit down more for the simpletons?
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No problem. So, in simple terms, the PCR testing that we do here in the U.S to test for the virus. The cycle threshold (CT value) is the number of amplification cycles required for the fluorescent signal to cross a certain threshold. This allows very small samples of RNA to be amplified and detected. The higher the cycle number, the less RNA (viral load) there is in the sample. Here's where it gets scandalous. It's been well established that any score higher than 33 or even 30, really, is so insignificant, that the person with that high a CT value is perfectly fine and not contagious.

So, why is that scandalous? The PCR testing uses a default value of 40 to diagnose when someone is "positive" when in a fact they're likely carrying around non shedding bits or even inert bits of the virus. This is one of the main reasons (aside from partial immunity) that so many people who are deemed "positive" have little to no symptoms. The CDC knows this. Fauci knows this. Health authorities know this. Yet we're counting and including all of these people as "positives" in the totals.

Last Edited by Dr. Van Gogh on 09/19/2020 12:52 AM
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This is actually a pretty brilliant idea if you think about it. There's only a handful of labs that are managing most of the tests. Getting that ct info is just a number, right? Shouldn't be too difficult to count them all up. I have a feeling that they won't do this tho
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Considering that Trump is able to rush a vaccine in a matter of months, yes, we could easily grab the CT values of every test performed. It could be done in weeks. Patient info doesn't have to be included. All we need is that magical CT value for every test done. I think we would be in awe of just how tests had a value over 30. People need to be asking what their CT values were for their own sanity as well.
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I think this is waaay over most peoples heads here OP. Can you break this shit down more for the simpletons?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77691408


No problem. So, in simple terms, the PCR testing that we do here in the U.S to test for the virus. The cycle threshold (CT value) is the number of amplification cycles required for the fluorescent signal to cross a certain threshold. This allows very small samples of RNA to be amplified and detected. The higher the cycle number, the less RNA (viral load) there is in the sample. Here's where it gets scandalous. It's been well established that any score higher than 33 or even 30, really, is so insignificant, that the person with that high a CT value is perfectly fine and not contagious.

So, why is that scandalous? The PCR testing uses a score of up to 40 to diagnose when someone is "positive" when in a fact they're likely carrying around non shedding bits or even inert bits of the virus. This is one of the main reasons (aside from partial immunity) that so many people who are deemed "positive" have little to no symptoms. The CDC knows this. Fauci knows this. Health authorities know this. Yet we're counting and including all of these people as "positives" in the totals.
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This is still WAAAAAAY too wordy for the plebs Doc. See my post upthread for a simpler version if you are someone who doesnt understand. Simply put, we are being screwed over by flawed science that regular people don't understand and medical professionals are too scared to tell everyone.
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I think this is waaay over most peoples heads here OP. Can you break this shit down more for the simpletons?
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No problem. So, in simple terms, the PCR testing that we do here in the U.S to test for the virus. The cycle threshold (CT value) is the number of amplification cycles required for the fluorescent signal to cross a certain threshold. This allows very small samples of RNA to be amplified and detected. The higher the cycle number, the less RNA (viral load) there is in the sample. Here's where it gets scandalous. It's been well established that any score higher than 33 or even 30, really, is so insignificant, that the person with that high a CT value is perfectly fine and not contagious.

So, why is that scandalous? The PCR testing uses a default value of 40 to diagnose when someone is "positive" when in a fact they're likely carrying around non shedding bits or even inert bits of the virus. This is one of the main reasons (aside from partial immunity) that so many people who are deemed "positive" have little to no symptoms. The CDC knows this. Fauci knows this. Health authorities know this. Yet we're counting and including all of these people as "positives" in the totals.
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doc we know they are doing this to make Trump look bad

they are all in on it, Including Dr. Fauci.

The numbers are bogus and everybody can see it.

I love your Idea, but it will never happen.

22 labs in florida were only reporting the Positive cases to the state and not those that tested Negative.

Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 09/19/2020 12:57 AM
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I think this is waaay over most peoples heads here OP. Can you break this shit down more for the simpletons?
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No problem. So, in simple terms, the PCR testing that we do here in the U.S to test for the virus. The cycle threshold (CT value) is the number of amplification cycles required for the fluorescent signal to cross a certain threshold. This allows very small samples of RNA to be amplified and detected. The higher the cycle number, the less RNA (viral load) there is in the sample. Here's where it gets scandalous. It's been well established that any score higher than 33 or even 30, really, is so insignificant, that the person with that high a CT value is perfectly fine and not contagious.

So, why is that scandalous? The PCR testing uses a score of up to 40 to diagnose when someone is "positive" when in a fact they're likely carrying around non shedding bits or even inert bits of the virus. This is one of the main reasons (aside from partial immunity) that so many people who are deemed "positive" have little to no symptoms. The CDC knows this. Fauci knows this. Health authorities know this. Yet we're counting and including all of these people as "positives" in the totals.
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This is still WAAAAAAY too wordy for the plebs Doc. See my post upthread for a simpler version if you are someone who doesnt understand. Simply put, we are being screwed over by flawed science that regular people don't understand and medical professionals are too scared to tell everyone.
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If that's the case, then is it any surprise how they've been able to pull it off?

In all seriousness, there are some pretty smart people here. Not everyone posts, but a lot of people lurk. You got give GLP a little more credit.

Here's an even shorter version: any test with a CT value of 30+ isn't really a true positive. 50-80% of the 6.75 million "positives" they are reporting likely had a CT value of 30+ and neither the test subject nor the public was aware of this.
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I think this is waaay over most peoples heads here OP. Can you break this shit down more for the simpletons?
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No problem. So, in simple terms, the PCR testing that we do here in the U.S to test for the virus. The cycle threshold (CT value) is the number of amplification cycles required for the fluorescent signal to cross a certain threshold. This allows very small samples of RNA to be amplified and detected. The higher the cycle number, the less RNA (viral load) there is in the sample. Here's where it gets scandalous. It's been well established that any score higher than 33 or even 30, really, is so insignificant, that the person with that high a CT value is perfectly fine and not contagious.

So, why is that scandalous? The PCR testing uses a default value of 40 to diagnose when someone is "positive" when in a fact they're likely carrying around non shedding bits or even inert bits of the virus. This is one of the main reasons (aside from partial immunity) that so many people who are deemed "positive" have little to no symptoms. The CDC knows this. Fauci knows this. Health authorities know this. Yet we're counting and including all of these people as "positives" in the totals.
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doc we know they are doing this to make Trump look bad

they are all in on it, Including Dr. Fauci.

The numbers are bogus and everybody can see it.

I love your Idea, but it will never happen.
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Agreed, but screaming "plandemic" won't cut it. You have to be specific these days. You have to overwhelm your opponent with facts and data. We need to know precisely what went wrong, and now we do. If this is to go to court, we need data. Legions of doctors will attest to what I am typing above, so there's also that.
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I think this is waaay over most peoples heads here OP. Can you break this shit down more for the simpletons?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77691408


No problem. So, in simple terms, the PCR testing that we do here in the U.S to test for the virus. The cycle threshold (CT value) is the number of amplification cycles required for the fluorescent signal to cross a certain threshold. This allows very small samples of RNA to be amplified and detected. The higher the cycle number, the less RNA (viral load) there is in the sample. Here's where it gets scandalous. It's been well established that any score higher than 33 or even 30, really, is so insignificant, that the person with that high a CT value is perfectly fine and not contagious.

So, why is that scandalous? The PCR testing uses a default value of 40 to diagnose when someone is "positive" when in a fact they're likely carrying around non shedding bits or even inert bits of the virus. This is one of the main reasons (aside from partial immunity) that so many people who are deemed "positive" have little to no symptoms. The CDC knows this. Fauci knows this. Health authorities know this. Yet we're counting and including all of these people as "positives" in the totals.
 Quoting: Dr. Calhoun


doc we know they are doing this to make Trump look bad

they are all in on it, Including Dr. Fauci.

The numbers are bogus and everybody can see it.

I love your Idea, but it will never happen.
 Quoting: Jake


Agreed, but screaming "plandemic" won't cut it. You have to be specific these days. You have to overwhelm your opponent with facts and data. We need to know precisely what went wrong, and now we do. If this is to go to court, we need data. Legions of doctors will attest to what I am typing above, so there's also that.
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Tom Fitton is your man, He will take it to court

and will get the DATA Through FOIA..
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Here's an even shorter version: any test with a CT value of 30+ isn't really a true positive. 50-80% of the 6.75 million "positives" they are reporting likely had a CT value of 30+ and neither the test subject nor the public was aware of this.
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BOOM there it is!

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No problem. So, in simple terms, the PCR testing that we do here in the U.S to test for the virus. The cycle threshold (CT value) is the number of amplification cycles required for the fluorescent signal to cross a certain threshold. This allows very small samples of RNA to be amplified and detected. The higher the cycle number, the less RNA (viral load) there is in the sample. Here's where it gets scandalous. It's been well established that any score higher than 33 or even 30, really, is so insignificant, that the person with that high a CT value is perfectly fine and not contagious.

So, why is that scandalous? The PCR testing uses a default value of 40 to diagnose when someone is "positive" when in a fact they're likely carrying around non shedding bits or even inert bits of the virus. This is one of the main reasons (aside from partial immunity) that so many people who are deemed "positive" have little to no symptoms. The CDC knows this. Fauci knows this. Health authorities know this. Yet we're counting and including all of these people as "positives" in the totals.
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doc we know they are doing this to make Trump look bad

they are all in on it, Including Dr. Fauci.

The numbers are bogus and everybody can see it.

I love your Idea, but it will never happen.
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Agreed, but screaming "plandemic" won't cut it. You have to be specific these days. You have to overwhelm your opponent with facts and data. We need to know precisely what went wrong, and now we do. If this is to go to court, we need data. Legions of doctors will attest to what I am typing above, so there's also that.
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Tom Fitton is your man, He will take it to court

and will get the DATA Through FOIA..
 Quoting: Jake


I'm on it like white on rice.

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doc we know they are doing this to make Trump look bad

they are all in on it, Including Dr. Fauci.

The numbers are bogus and everybody can see it.

I love your Idea, but it will never happen.
 Quoting: Jake


Agreed, but screaming "plandemic" won't cut it. You have to be specific these days. You have to overwhelm your opponent with facts and data. We need to know precisely what went wrong, and now we do. If this is to go to court, we need data. Legions of doctors will attest to what I am typing above, so there's also that.
 Quoting: Dr. Calhoun


Tom Fitton is your man, He will take it to court

and will get the DATA Through FOIA..
 Quoting: Jake


I'm on it like white on rice.

yoda
 Quoting: Dr. Calhoun


And he has 60 million in cash in the bank already raised
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If that's the case, then is it any surprise how they've been able to pull it off?

In all seriousness, there are some pretty smart people here. Not everyone posts, but a lot of people lurk. You got give GLP a little more credit.

Here's an even shorter version: any test with a CT value of 30+ isn't really a true positive. 50-80% of the 6.75 million "positives" they are reporting likely had a CT value of 30+ and neither the test subject nor the public was aware of this.
 Quoting: Dr. Calhoun


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The unreliability of these tests affects everything...

The death numbers and case numbers...

Research papers on asymptomatic transmission and all the models of spread...

Effectiveness of lockdowns, social distancing, and masks…

The presence of virus on door knobs, stool samples, and in waste water…

How long the virus survives in different environments under different conditions and whether it’s airborne…

The effectiveness of disinfectants…

Any and all research papers, conclusions, and policies that used any of these test results…
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I think this is waaay over most peoples heads here OP. Can you break this shit down more for the simpletons?
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No problem. So, in simple terms, the PCR testing that we do here in the U.S to test for the virus. The cycle threshold (CT value) is the number of amplification cycles required for the fluorescent signal to cross a certain threshold. This allows very small samples of RNA to be amplified and detected. The higher the cycle number, the less RNA (viral load) there is in the sample. Here's where it gets scandalous. It's been well established that any score higher than 33 or even 30, really, is so insignificant, that the person with that high a CT value is perfectly fine and not contagious.

So, why is that scandalous? The PCR testing uses a score of up to 40 to diagnose when someone is "positive" when in a fact they're likely carrying around non shedding bits or even inert bits of the virus. This is one of the main reasons (aside from partial immunity) that so many people who are deemed "positive" have little to no symptoms. The CDC knows this. Fauci knows this. Health authorities know this. Yet we're counting and including all of these people as "positives" in the totals.
 Quoting: Dr. Calhoun


This is still WAAAAAAY too wordy for the plebs Doc. See my post upthread for a simpler version if you are someone who doesnt understand. Simply put, we are being screwed over by flawed science that regular people don't understand and medical professionals are too scared to tell everyone.
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If that's the case, then is it any surprise how they've been able to pull it off?

In all seriousness, there are some pretty smart people here. Not everyone posts, but a lot of people lurk. You got give GLP a little more credit.

Here's an even shorter version: any test with a CT value of 30+ isn't really a true positive. 50-80% of the 6.75 million "positives" they are reporting likely had a CT value of 30+ and neither the test subject nor the public was aware of this.
 Quoting: Dr. Calhoun


Look, I'm not arguing with you here. You are right and I appreciate your post. I 5 starred and bumped it. But understand something...IT'S NOT THE SMART PEOPLE ON GLP WE HAVE TO GET THIS INFO OUT TO...it's the rubes of the world that need to have it dumbed down sO THEY can get mad and demand answers. There's more of them than us you know and without them it's a lost cause. What you wrote at the end of this post should be the original post in the thread. Don't bury the headline.
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If that's the case, then is it any surprise how they've been able to pull it off?

In all seriousness, there are some pretty smart people here. Not everyone posts, but a lot of people lurk. You got give GLP a little more credit.

Here's an even shorter version: any test with a CT value of 30+ isn't really a true positive. 50-80% of the 6.75 million "positives" they are reporting likely had a CT value of 30+ and neither the test subject nor the public was aware of this.
 Quoting: Dr. Calhoun


glassesoff
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There are definitely people who knew about this information about the tests from the very beginning and decided to used it to make everything seems worse than it was, to con the public...
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The unreliability of these tests affects everything...

The death numbers and case numbers...

Research papers on asymptomatic transmission and all the models of spread...

Effectiveness of lockdowns, social distancing, and masks…

The presence of virus on door knobs, stool samples, and in waste water…

How long the virus survives in different environments under different conditions and whether it’s airborne…

The effectiveness of disinfectants…

Any and all research papers, conclusions, and policies that used any of these test results…
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BINGO!

Its ALL based on purposely misleading info from flawed testing.

Will the world's citizens EVER realize what's been perpetrated on them and revolt?
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With these scientific studies coming out and the "covid" tests seeming much like they are swabbing you for a DNA test or possibly infecting you.. hmm.

5G induces coronaviruses (such as SARS-CoV-2 or COVID-19

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net (secure)]

Here is the study:

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net (secure)]

THE STORY: A new study published at the NIH PubMed site on July 16th 2020, and published earlier elsewhere in June 2020, mathematically models how the millimeter waves of 5G tech could induce the body to create coronaviruses like SARS-CoV-2 / COVID.

THE IMPLICATIONS: Why have authorities desperately tried to silence those pointing out the 5G-coronavirus connection? Why are we worried about supposedly contagious surfaces when battlefield technology is being rolled out worldwide that can penetrate and manipulate our very DNA?

A new study mathematically models how 5G induces coronaviruses (such as SARS-CoV-2 or COVID-19) via millimeter wave penetration of our cells.

5G can also influence and change our DNA.

5G induces coronaviruses according to a new study just published on the US NIH (National Institute of Health) website PubMed.gov and published earlier elsewhere.

The study, entitled 5G Technology and Induction of Coronavirus in Skin Cells, comes to the shocking conclusion - shocking from a mainstream scientific viewpoint - that,

5G technology can instigate the body to produce viruses as a cellular response...

Guess what? The 5G millimeter waves (so-called because they operate in extremely high frequencies where there is less than a millimeter between the wave peaks) can make the body produce not just any class of viruses but actually coronaviruses!

This research peels back another layer of Operation Coronavirus, affirming the coronavirus 5G connection that I and others were warning about in February when this entire plandemic got off the ground.

In that article I asked the question: "What if 5G is being used to open up the skin of those in Wuhan so as to allow the new bioweapon coronavirus to infiltrate more easily?"

Now with more information the question could be:"What if 5G is being used to open up the skin and simultaneously create coronaviruses?"
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The unreliability of these tests affects everything...

The death numbers and case numbers...

Research papers on asymptomatic transmission and all the models of spread...

Effectiveness of lockdowns, social distancing, and masks…

The presence of virus on door knobs, stool samples, and in waste water…

How long the virus survives in different environments under different conditions and whether it’s airborne…

The effectiveness of disinfectants…

Any and all research papers, conclusions, and policies that used any of these test results…
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76964606


BINGO!

Its ALL based on purposely misleading info from flawed testing.

Will the world's citizens EVER realize what's been perpetrated on them and revolt?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4781216


If/when lockdowns occur again here in the states, I do think there will be unprecedented pushback.
I'm retired, which means I can now publicly reveal how few fucks I give without getting fired.
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If that's the case, then is it any surprise how they've been able to pull it off?

In all seriousness, there are some pretty smart people here. Not everyone posts, but a lot of people lurk. You got give GLP a little more credit.

Here's an even shorter version: any test with a CT value of 30+ isn't really a true positive. 50-80% of the 6.75 million "positives" they are reporting likely had a CT value of 30+ and neither the test subject nor the public was aware of this.
 Quoting: Dr. Calhoun


glassesoff
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79395144


There are definitely people who knew about this information about the tests from the very beginning and decided to used it to make everything seems worse than it was, to con the public...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76964606


Absolutely, and I and others are working to get this data into the right hands.
I'm retired, which means I can now publicly reveal how few fucks I give without getting fired.
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No problem. So, in simple terms, the PCR testing that we do here in the U.S to test for the virus. The cycle threshold (CT value) is the number of amplification cycles required for the fluorescent signal to cross a certain threshold. This allows very small samples of RNA to be amplified and detected. The higher the cycle number, the less RNA (viral load) there is in the sample. Here's where it gets scandalous. It's been well established that any score higher than 33 or even 30, really, is so insignificant, that the person with that high a CT value is perfectly fine and not contagious.

So, why is that scandalous? The PCR testing uses a score of up to 40 to diagnose when someone is "positive" when in a fact they're likely carrying around non shedding bits or even inert bits of the virus. This is one of the main reasons (aside from partial immunity) that so many people who are deemed "positive" have little to no symptoms. The CDC knows this. Fauci knows this. Health authorities know this. Yet we're counting and including all of these people as "positives" in the totals.
 Quoting: Dr. Calhoun


This is still WAAAAAAY too wordy for the plebs Doc. See my post upthread for a simpler version if you are someone who doesnt understand. Simply put, we are being screwed over by flawed science that regular people don't understand and medical professionals are too scared to tell everyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4781216


If that's the case, then is it any surprise how they've been able to pull it off?

In all seriousness, there are some pretty smart people here. Not everyone posts, but a lot of people lurk. You got give GLP a little more credit.

Here's an even shorter version: any test with a CT value of 30+ isn't really a true positive. 50-80% of the 6.75 million "positives" they are reporting likely had a CT value of 30+ and neither the test subject nor the public was aware of this.
 Quoting: Dr. Calhoun


Look, I'm not arguing with you here. You are right and I appreciate your post. I 5 starred and bumped it. But understand something...IT'S NOT THE SMART PEOPLE ON GLP WE HAVE TO GET THIS INFO OUT TO...it's the rubes of the world that need to have it dumbed down sO THEY can get mad and demand answers. There's more of them than us you know and without them it's a lost cause. What you wrote at the end of this post should be the original post in the thread. Don't bury the headline.
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It will be in the right hands soon enough!
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