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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79387709 Australia 10/16/2020 06:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 6 If you point these things out to the brothers and sisters, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, nourished on the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed. (1 Timothy 4:1-6) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79387709 Australia 10/16/2020 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. 2 The fear and dread of you will fall on all the beasts of the earth, and on all the birds in the sky, on every creature that moves along the ground, and on all the fish in the sea; they are given into your hands. 3 Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything. (Genesis 9:1-3) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79501590 Australia 10/16/2020 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. 2 The fear and dread of you will fall on all the beasts of the earth, and on all the birds in the sky, on every creature that moves along the ground, and on all the fish in the sea; they are given into your hands. 3 Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79387709 (Genesis 9:1-3) And thats because the firmament was destroyed during the flood. Uv levels went through the roof and as a result protien and lots of it was now required. Vegaans are just human demons. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78017698 10/16/2020 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are to be responsible with food production. Factory farms are very unclean. Take a tour before eating anything that comes from one. They didn't exist a few thousand years ago. Vegetarians seem to experience many health benefits. The kitchen has a much cleaner feel to it when no raw meats come around, too. I do, however, still enjoy eating certain fishes and eggs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70874676 United States 10/16/2020 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 17 After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable. 18 “Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? 19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.) Quoting: . 79387709 20 He went on: “What comes out of a person is what defiles them. 21 For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22 adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. 23 All these evils come from inside and defile a person.” (Mark 7:17-23) This is not what the King James version says. The King James says "purging all meats" instead of "(In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)" Thats because, depending on the translation, the translator is making a decision about what the greek text is saying makes the food clean...the stomach/digestive process...or the declaration of Jesus. The KJV translates it as the stomach, whereas other translations add the words "In saying this, Jesus declared" in order to have the sentence make sense in english. But again, the translator Added those words, the KJV did not. So which version is correct? Are all foods suddenly OK to eat? Or was Jesus talking about how digestion purifies food once eaten? And if so...does this somehow make it ok to eat everything despite GOD's earlier dietary commandments? The answer can be found in ACTS chapter 10 where Peter sawa vision of a blanket with all kinds of creepy crawly critters and heard a voice telling him to eat them. What was Peter's reply? "But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean." Acts 10:14 If Jesus had declared all foods cleanwhen he was on earth, then why was peter still keeping the dietary laws? The answer is that the translation in Mark is mistranslated in the newer bible versions, the correct translation is found in the King James. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79387709 Australia 10/16/2020 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 17 After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable. 18 “Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? 19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.) Quoting: . 79387709 20 He went on: “What comes out of a person is what defiles them. 21 For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22 adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. 23 All these evils come from inside and defile a person.” (Mark 7:17-23) This is not what the King James version says. The King James says "purging all meats" instead of "(In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)" Thats because, depending on the translation, the translator is making a decision about what the greek text is saying makes the food clean...the stomach/digestive process...or the declaration of Jesus. The KJV translates it as the stomach, whereas other translations add the words "In saying this, Jesus declared" in order to have the sentence make sense in english. But again, the translator Added those words, the KJV did not. So which version is correct? Are all foods suddenly OK to eat? Or was Jesus talking about how digestion purifies food once eaten? And if so...does this somehow make it ok to eat everything despite GOD's earlier dietary commandments? The answer can be found in ACTS chapter 10 where Peter sawa vision of a blanket with all kinds of creepy crawly critters and heard a voice telling him to eat them. What was Peter's reply? "But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean." Acts 10:14 If Jesus had declared all foods cleanwhen he was on earth, then why was peter still keeping the dietary laws? The answer is that the translation in Mark is mistranslated in the newer bible versions, the correct translation is found in the King James. Jesus was not saying that digestion purifies food. Surely nobody calls the things that come out the bottom "purified food". According to the Bible, everything created by God is good. Food is consecrated by the word of God and prayer. They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. 4 For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer. (1 Timothy 4:3-5) Anyhow here are God's earlier dietary commandments from Genesis chapter 9. 2 The fear and dread of you will fall on all the beasts of the earth, and on all the birds in the sky, on every creature that moves along the ground, and on all the fish in the sea; they are given into your hands. 3 Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything. (Genesis 9:2-3) And here is God's earlier dietary commandment to eat plants, referred to in Genesis 9:3. Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. (Genesis 1:29) If God's law never changes, why did God say "Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything." in Genesis 9:3? Clearly God's law changed from "eat plants" to "eat plants and animals". Or were those words also "added on"? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79387709 Australia 10/16/2020 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The answer can be found in ACTS chapter 10 where Peter sawa vision of a blanket with all kinds of creepy crawly critters and heard a voice telling him to eat them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70874676 What was Peter's reply? "But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean." Acts 10:14 If Jesus had declared all foods cleanwhen he was on earth, then why was peter still keeping the dietary laws? 9 About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. 10 He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. 11 He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. 12 It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. 13 Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.” 14 “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.” 15 The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.” 16 This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven. (Acts 10:9-16) Peter was ordered to eat food that he considered impure or unclean. Then he was told directly that it is not to be called impure because God has made all food clean. The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.” (Acts 10:15) God made all food clean, just like Jesus said in Mark 7:19. There is nothing in Acts 10 which states that Christians must follow the dietary laws which God commanded the Israelites to follow. Instead Acts 10 makes it clear that God has made all food clean, and food is not to be called unclean. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79387709 Australia 10/31/2020 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.” (Acts 10:15) Some people say that Acts 10:15 doesn't say that God made all food clean. It only says that all people are clean, referring to Peter visiting Cornelius's house at the end of Acts 10. 28 He said to them: “You are well aware that it is against our law for an Israelite to associate with or visit a Greek. But God has shown me that I should not call anyone impure or unclean. (Acts 10:28) Peter said it is against the law for him to visit that house. You can read about it in Leviticus 20:22-26. 22 “‘Keep all my decrees and laws and follow them, so that the land where I am bringing you to live may not vomit you out. 23 You must not live according to the customs of the nations I am going to drive out before you. Because they did all these things, I abhorred them. 24 But I said to you, “You will possess their land; I will give it to you as an inheritance, a land flowing with milk and honey.” I am the Lord your God, who has set you apart from the nations. 25 “‘You must therefore make a distinction between clean and unclean animals and between unclean and clean birds. Do not defile yourselves by any animal or bird or anything that moves along the ground—those that I have set apart as unclean for you. 26 You are to be holy to me because I, the Lord, am holy, and I have set you apart from the nations to be my own. (Leviticus 20:22-26) Leviticus 20:22 says the Israelites must obey all of the Law of Moses. 20:23 says to not live with people of other nations or follow their customs. In verse 24 God orders them to live in the promised land, and that God has set them apart from the nations. Leviticus 20:25 has food laws for the Israelites about clean and unclean animals. In verse 26 God again makes it clear that the Israelites are separated from other nations. Jesus said about the Law of Moses: For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:18) Peter was commanded to kill and eat all animals, even though that would be illegal under the Law of Moses. Peter was commanded to visit Cornelius's house, despite that being illegal under the Law of Moses. Nothing was removed from the Law of Moses. If Peter could visit Cornelius's house, then clearly he was no longer under the Law of Moses. The Law of Moses food laws also no longer applied to him. God said in Leviticus 20:22, "Keep all my decrees and laws and follow them". If you want to obey the food laws from the Law of Moses, you must obey all of the Law of Moses. Including the laws about living in the promised land and being separate from people of other nations. If the laws of national separation are gone, then the food laws are also gone. You can't keep one without the other. See Mathew 5:18. |