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OOPS... BILL GATES-FUNDED PRIVACY DISASTER ??? All INTEL, AMD, QUALCOMM CPUs Will Now Come With The "PLUTON SECURITY CHIP" Made By MICROSOFT

 
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OOPS... BILL GATES-FUNDED PRIVACY DISASTER ??? All INTEL, AMD, QUALCOMM CPUs Will Now Come With The "PLUTON SECURITY CHIP" Made By MICROSOFT
A "SECURITY MICROPROCESSOR" FOR INTEL, AMD AND QUALCOMM CPUS DESIGNED BY MICROSOFT.

UPDATES ITSELF EVERY MONTH WITHOUT ASKING IT SEEMS.

MAY BRING DRM THAT CANNOT BE CIRCUMVENTED - SAY GOODBYE TO PLAYING ANYTHING PIRATED - AND PCs NO LONGER UNDER YOUR CONTROL ARE COMING:


[link to techcrunch.com (secure)]

[link to www.wired.com (secure)]


https://imgur.com/a70LlVB



Pluton acts as a hardware root-of-trust, which in simple terms protects a device’s hardware from tampering, such as from hardware implants or by hackers exploiting flaws in the device’s low-level firmware. By integrating the chip inside future Intel, AMD, and Qualcomm central processor units, or CPUs, it makes it far more difficult for hackers with physical access to a computer to launch hardware attacks and extract sensitive data, the companies said.

“The Microsoft Pluton design will create a much tighter integration between the hardware and the Windows operating system at the CPUthat will reduce the available attack surface,” said David Weston, director of enterprise and operating system security at Microsoft.

Microsoft said Pluton made its first appearance in the Xbox One back in 2013 to make it far more difficult to hack the console or allow gamers to run pirated games. The chip later graduated to Microsoft’s cloud service Azure Sphere, used to secure low-cost Internet of Things devices.


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Re: OOPS... BILL GATES-FUNDED PRIVACY DISASTER ??? All INTEL, AMD, QUALCOMM CPUs Will Now Come With The "PLUTON SECURITY CHIP" Made By MICROSOFT
when is it coming?
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when is it coming?
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VERY SOON. THE TECHNOLOGY HAS BEEN USED SINCE 2013:

Microsoft said Pluton made its first appearance in the Xbox One back in 2013 to make it far more difficult to hack the console or allow gamers to run pirated games. The chip later graduated to Microsoft’s cloud service Azure Sphere, used to secure low-cost Internet of Things devices.

The idea now is to bring that same technology, with some improvements, to new Windows 10 devices.

The chip comes with immediate benefits, like making hardware attacks against Windows devices far more difficult to succeed. But the chip also solves a major security headache by keeping the device’s firmware up-to-date.
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THIS CHIP WILL "AUTOMATICALL UPDATE FIRMWARE" WHETHER YOU WANT IT OR NOT...

[link to www.microsoft.com (secure)]

One of the other major security problems solved by Pluton is keeping the system firmware up to date across the entire PC ecosystem. Today customers receive updates to their security firmware from a variety of different sources than can be difficult to manage, resulting in widespread patching issues. Pluton provides a flexible, updateable platform for running firmware that implements end-to-end security functionality authored, maintained, and updated by Microsoft. Pluton for Windows computers will be integrated with the Windows Update process in the same way that the Azure Sphere Security Service connects to IoT devices.

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How will this affect those of us who use real operating systems such as Linux or other non-MS creations?

Just because CPU's CAN run MS or Goygle bullshit doesn't mean that we should.
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How will this affect those of us who use real operating systems such as Linux or other non-MS creations?

Just because CPU's CAN run MS or Goygle bullshit doesn't mean that we should.
 Quoting: FeralOne


It would likely mean that even though YOU DO NOT HAVE WINDOWS 10 INSTALLED, you still have a MICROSOFT SECURITY CHIP INSIDE YOUR CPU.

ONE THAT TALKS TO MICROSOFT SERVERS FOR "FIRMWARE UPGRADES".

AND THAT COULD - IN THEORY - COMPLETELY DEFEAT THE PURPOSE OF YOUR LINUX INSTALL.


This thing sounds A LOT LIKE THE OLD "CLIPPER CHIP" THAT CAUSED SUCH OUTRAGE BACK IN THE DAY.
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Re: OOPS... BILL GATES-FUNDED PRIVACY DISASTER ??? All INTEL, AMD, QUALCOMM CPUs Will Now Come With The "PLUTON SECURITY CHIP" Made By MICROSOFT
[link to www.wired.com (secure)]

"But when it matters, which is where your encryption keys are stored, how you boot the system, now Microsoft writes the code for Pluton and works with Intel or others to get it signed and delivered. So there are fewer people involved, and the PC is going to be more secure for it. The fact that Microsoft designed a processor and Intel is putting it in their CPU—that’s like a head-exploding concept."

https://imgur.com/a70LlVB




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Does Turkey produce its own chips ?
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Does Turkey produce its own chips ?
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Unfortunately no.

Completely dependent on American, British, German, Chinese, Taiwanese et cetera chips.
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CONFIRMED - THIS THING WILL UPDATE ITSELF EVERY MONTH.


[link to www.zdnet.com (secure)]


"You're getting better protection against physical attacks, you're getting Microsoft verification of firmware to stop some of the new firmware attacks, and we're going to update this thing every month just like it's Patch Tuesday."

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Re: OOPS... BILL GATES-FUNDED PRIVACY DISASTER ??? All INTEL, AMD, QUALCOMM CPUs Will Now Come With The "PLUTON SECURITY CHIP" Made By MICROSOFT
One more article - yes, AMD CPUs are getting Pluton:


[link to www.neowin.net (secure)]

Another thing that's kind of a big deal is that firmware updates are going to come directly from Microsoft. Right now, your firmware updates can come from a variety of places. They could come from Windows Update, Lenovo has its Vantage app, HP has Support Assistant, Dell has SupportAssist, and there's more. This is hard to manage, and Microsoft says that Pluton for Windows PCs will be "integrated with the Windows Update process in the same way that the Azure Sphere Security Service connects to IoT devices."
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Re: OOPS... BILL GATES-FUNDED PRIVACY DISASTER ??? All INTEL, AMD, QUALCOMM CPUs Will Now Come With The "PLUTON SECURITY CHIP" Made By MICROSOFT
How will this affect those of us who use real operating systems such as Linux or other non-MS creations?

Just because CPU's CAN run MS or Goygle bullshit doesn't mean that we should.
 Quoting: FeralOne


It would likely mean that even though YOU DO NOT HAVE WINDOWS 10 INSTALLED, you still have a MICROSOFT SECURITY CHIP INSIDE YOUR CPU.

ONE THAT TALKS TO MICROSOFT SERVERS FOR "FIRMWARE UPGRADES".

AND THAT COULD - IN THEORY - COMPLETELY DEFEAT THE PURPOSE OF YOUR LINUX INSTALL.


This thing sounds A LOT LIKE THE OLD "CLIPPER CHIP" THAT CAUSED SUCH OUTRAGE BACK IN THE DAY.

 Quoting: FreedomLawDemocracy


The Clipper chip is what I first thought about.

Are ARM manufacturers going to adopt the same system? Haven't found that yet.

UEFI was not fun for the *nixes out there, pretty sure we'll have the same hilarity again.

Apparently Apple uses similar tech in their computers, I'm going to go hunt up whether opensource OSes have problems on that platform.

edit: Yes, until the Linux kernel with T2 support was shipped with a distro you could boot from the install media but T2 made the internal drive invisible. Same with BSDs

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How will this affect those of us who use real operating systems such as Linux or other non-MS creations?

Just because CPU's CAN run MS or Goygle bullshit doesn't mean that we should.
 Quoting: FeralOne


It would likely mean that even though YOU DO NOT HAVE WINDOWS 10 INSTALLED, you still have a MICROSOFT SECURITY CHIP INSIDE YOUR CPU.

ONE THAT TALKS TO MICROSOFT SERVERS FOR "FIRMWARE UPGRADES".

AND THAT COULD - IN THEORY - COMPLETELY DEFEAT THE PURPOSE OF YOUR LINUX INSTALL.


This thing sounds A LOT LIKE THE OLD "CLIPPER CHIP" THAT CAUSED SUCH OUTRAGE BACK IN THE DAY.

 Quoting: FreedomLawDemocracy


The Clipper chip is what I first thought about.

Are ARM manufacturers going to adopt the same system? Haven't found that yet.

UEFI was not fun for the *nixes out there, pretty sure we'll have the same hilarity again.

Apparently Apple uses similar tech in their computers, I'm going to go hunt up whether opensource OSes have problems on that platform.

edit: Yes, until the Linux kernel with T2 support was shipped with a distro you could boot from the install media but T2 made the internal drive invisible. Same with BSDs
 Quoting: Lowkey Cyberpunk




This company has begun selling the first OPEN RISC-V PROCESSOR BOARDS (OPEN SOURCE CPUS IN OTHER WORDS):


[link to www.sifive.com (secure)]


https://imgur.com/a/jmliQ9p



THESE ARE OPEN-SOURCE CPUS NOT MADE BY INTEL, AMD, ARM/NVIDIA OR QUALCOMM.

ARTICLE:


[link to techcrunch.com (secure)]
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Re: OOPS... BILL GATES-FUNDED PRIVACY DISASTER ??? All INTEL, AMD, QUALCOMM CPUs Will Now Come With The "PLUTON SECURITY CHIP" Made By MICROSOFT
A "SECURITY MICROPROCESSOR" FOR INTEL, AMD AND QUALCOMM CPUS DESIGNED BY MICROSOFT.

UPDATES ITSELF EVERY MONTH WITHOUT ASKING IT SEEMS.

MAY BRING DRM THAT CANNOT BE CIRCUMVENTED - SAY GOODBYE TO PLAYING ANYTHING PIRATED - AND PCs NO LONGER UNDER YOUR CONTROL ARE COMING:


[link to techcrunch.com (secure)]

[link to www.wired.com (secure)]


[imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]


Pluton acts as a hardware root-of-trust, which in simple terms protects a device’s hardware from tampering, such as from hardware implants or by hackers exploiting flaws in the device’s low-level firmware. By integrating the chip inside future Intel, AMD, and Qualcomm central processor units, or CPUs, it makes it far more difficult for hackers with physical access to a computer to launch hardware attacks and extract sensitive data, the companies said.

“The Microsoft Pluton design will create a much tighter integration between the hardware and the Windows operating system at the CPUthat will reduce the available attack surface,” said David Weston, director of enterprise and operating system security at Microsoft.

Microsoft said Pluton made its first appearance in the Xbox One back in 2013 to make it far more difficult to hack the console or allow gamers to run pirated games. The chip later graduated to Microsoft’s cloud service Azure Sphere, used to secure low-cost Internet of Things devices.


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 Quoting: FreedomLawDemocracy


The US Supreme Court has previously ruled that Microsoft cannot control, limit or otherwise interfere with or remove software installed by users of it's OS even if that software was illegally obtained. They are also not legally allowed to disable access to a users device for any reason other than theft of the device itself. That would mean using the chip for DRM, at least on a PC, would be a violation of that ruling. However, that decision was handed down about twenty years ago if I recall and we seem to be living in clown world now so I'm guessing anything could happen.





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