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The_Meridian  (OP)
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Nope. The whole gnostic twist is a fool’s errand. The Bible is literal. Anything else, any gnostic overlay is subverting. Read it and weep. Just like Jesus did when He saw the state of Jerusalem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79381051


Gnosticism is to deny the will of God.

I do not deny the will of God, I want to know it and do it as much as possible.

The only way to hear the voice of God is through Christ.

The only way to Christ is through invocation and meditation.

Knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

Ask, and ye shall receive.

All of these things you see me do, ye too shall do, and more.

Gnostics are angry that they are here.

I am not angry that I am here, this is where the Creator sees fit to put me. Now, if I do his will, this place will be Heaven. If I reject his will, this place will be Hell.

It may take a good while to undo the damage that living in hell does to you.

Maybe more than a lifetime.
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These are completely superfluous concepts.

Only those who have not yet understood anything and who still want to wander around endlessly need something like this.


Thinking is hell.

Beingness is heaven.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79653701


Well, it's great if you're already there, right?

For a great many, thinking is what orients them into the right direction.
 Quoting: The_Meridian


You are absolutely right about that.

That is why it is also said that he who seeks should seek until he finds.

But what you are completely wrong with basically is your understanding to believe that something can be done in the person.

The sentence "Be still and know I am God" is essential here.

It is all about recognizing yourself as what is there when the person is not there. In stillness. And there is only one way to do this: let go of the person.

Of course, even those who know the truth are usually not able to let go and overcome the identification with the illusionary I-Character. And then it is necessary to think until this ego energy is exhausted....

chuckle
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Right. See, your instinct was to tell me "You're wrong!" because of some perceived omission on your part. But in fact I pointed out the bit about Christ Conciousness which is a gateway tidbit for the neophyte which will lead to meditation and quieting the mind and all of the stuff you thought I didn't say or don't know.

This post is not for the expert, it's for people who don't know these basic things.

You have to blow a mind before you can rebuild a mind, if you get my meaning.
 Quoting: The_Meridian


I know exactly what your post was about.

And I was especially about you, because you yourself have set the hurdles for you to arrive in reality extremely high, because you have erected gigantic thought buildings and the pride to have a lot of knowledge and to have understood everything, the gravity in the person enormously strengthened and makes an escape impossible.

What I am concerned with is that you understand that you do yourself and others no favor if you present gigantic mazes.

The Bible, Jesus and all the other great teachers of history are about something very, very simple:

You are the self-knowing substance and not just the temporary form that appears as a person and ego character.

The identification with a supposed "thinker" and the contents of the thought are nothing but ballast that prevents to recognize who it is that knows the existence of the thought and its contents.

It must be known what has awareness of the thoughts.
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Conclusion - Sky Wizard don't exist.
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Great post
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Ok you have my interest, but I gotta go - so bumping for later.
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If the truth is so often removed from GLP then why are Bible threads allowed to remain?
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7. Technology has existed many times and in many different forms, some of them unrecognizable, and some of the things you read in the Bible and other holy books only make sense if you understand that technology was in use.

9. The Bible was not meant to be in your hands at it's inception.

You know this is true. You know the early church forbid it's followers to read the holy scriptures, they were only for the Priests, the initiated. They did not foresee the Printing Press.

Any questions?
 Quoting: The_Meridian



Aren't the above two points contradictory?
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Without ado...

1. The Bible is Astrology and is therefore cyclical.


This means that the events in the Bible happen repeatedly and if you understand the code you can know when something is going to happen, and how to get on top of it and emerge on the right side of things.


2. The Bible is Compressed

This means that what you hold in your hands is a zip file. You are looking at the list of contents but you cannot see anything but the filename. The more you read the Bible, the more it decompresses for you.

3. The Bible has Multiple Encryptions

This means that even if you unpack the Bible pretty well, without certain keys you will never truly understand everything it's talking about.

One such key is language. If you are reading a translation, you are certainly going to be missing a LOT.

4. The Bible is Older than you realize.

I will not elaborate on this further except to give you a hint: Israel and Jerusalem and Egypt and other sites in the Bible are not as they seem.


5. Yeshua Bin Yosef of Nazareth was a Man, a Rabbi who familiarized himself with Eastern traditions and used them to point out the hypocrisy of the Priest classes of his time. He was a threat to establishment and was therefore put to death.

"The Christ" is a state of consciousness obtained through meditation. Yeshua was steeped in Christ Consciousness from the time of his Ministry.

"Jesus" is an amalgamation of the Man Yeshua and the Solar God as taught in Egyptian mystery schools. Jesus = Iesus = Isis Jesus is a woman? No, but he comes from Isis, the Holy Mother, Holy Ma-Ri.

Yahweh was a Flesh-and-Blood Being coming from a group of Flesh-and-Blood beings called the Elohim or Annunaki in Sumerian. Some of the stories attributed to Yahweh are taken from Shiva, Vishnu, Ea, Enki, etc. You get the idea. Is Yaweh A "God"? By the standards of the day, certainly.

The Creator, God Most High, is the spirit in all of us. Unknowable and yet ever present. Christ Consciousness is the bridge we need to get to Most High. Nobody gets to the father but through Christ.

6. The Bible is fairly useless as an historical text. Esoteric truths use the basic backbones of certain events to hide themselves in for the initiated.

In other words, was there a flood? Sure, everybody knows that! Was there an Ark? Yeah pretty much! Several, actually and at various times.

Hell, there were floods from space that you can't even begin to understand where DNA was kept like seed vaults back before Man's mind was split into two.

Or not. Who cares?

The point is not to learn about a flood and rainbows and doves but the secrets that are encoded into it that will help you understand yourself, your mind, your spirit and your relation to the Divine.

7. Technology has existed many times and in many different forms, some of them unrecognizable, and some of the things you read in the Bible and other holy books only make sense if you understand that technology was in use.

8. "Psychic Powers" have come and gone and come again several times over in this world and is related to Plasma events that you don't need to understand right now. In short: The more Plasma in the world, the more in your blood, the more charged up you are, and the more power you have.

Technology of any kind is an attempt to restore the loss of plasma powers and/or to replace plasma powers in the common people in order to control them.

9. The Bible was not meant to be in your hands at it's inception.

You know this is true. You know the early church forbid it's followers to read the holy scriptures, they were only for the Priests, the initiated. They did not foresee the Printing Press.

10. The Vatican is the Roman Empire, and the Roman Empire is Government, and Government literally means "Mind Control" (Govern = control, Ment=Mind) The Roman Empire under the disguise of this World-Wide Church owns literally everything including Royalty lines and Corporations and YOU in ways you do not understand. "America" has never been a "free Country" liberated from "England" you are a slave and your parents sign you away to the state a minute after your born and a legal fiction is created out of you as a bond from your afterbirth material.

What? That's crazy! Yep. You don't even know how crazy it gets.



----


Any questions?
 Quoting: The_Meridian



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sorry but I'm quite familiar with OP's posts. and yes he posts the same lies over and over in an attempt to make the bible and Christ over into the new-agey image he wants for himself

Christ isn't a consciousness or state of mind. He is the only begotten son of GOD

by ancient texts i assume you mean the tablets of thoth and other crap like that.

No thanks I'll stick to the bible
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lol ok, you still clearly don't know what you're talking about. enjoy your three dimensional persecution complex. don't wanna piss of your loving god lest he banish you to hell for literal eternity! keep your mind closed and imprisoned!
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lol...somebody named shitbird on the internet thinks I don't know what I'm talking about.....lol. how will I ever go on?.....

and there is nothing wrong with my mind, its closed to false, new-agey crap like that of the OP and obviously like the crap that you agree with. You see, I'm old, and I've learned a thing or two along the way one being this: those who want you to have an "open mind" only want that so that they can fill that open mind with the lies, crap and general garbage that they are into.

again, NO THANKS.
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Well, it's great if you're already there, right?

For a great many, thinking is what orients them into the right direction.
 Quoting: The_Meridian


You are absolutely right about that.

That is why it is also said that he who seeks should seek until he finds.

But what you are completely wrong with basically is your understanding to believe that something can be done in the person.

The sentence "Be still and know I am God" is essential here.

It is all about recognizing yourself as what is there when the person is not there. In stillness. And there is only one way to do this: let go of the person.

Of course, even those who know the truth are usually not able to let go and overcome the identification with the illusionary I-Character. And then it is necessary to think until this ego energy is exhausted....

chuckle
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Right. See, your instinct was to tell me "You're wrong!" because of some perceived omission on your part. But in fact I pointed out the bit about Christ Conciousness which is a gateway tidbit for the neophyte which will lead to meditation and quieting the mind and all of the stuff you thought I didn't say or don't know.

This post is not for the expert, it's for people who don't know these basic things.

You have to blow a mind before you can rebuild a mind, if you get my meaning.
 Quoting: The_Meridian


I know exactly what your post was about.

And I was especially about you, because you yourself have set the hurdles for you to arrive in reality extremely high, because you have erected gigantic thought buildings and the pride to have a lot of knowledge and to have understood everything, the gravity in the person enormously strengthened and makes an escape impossible.

What I am concerned with is that you understand that you do yourself and others no favor if you present gigantic mazes.

The Bible, Jesus and all the other great teachers of history are about something very, very simple:

You are the self-knowing substance and not just the temporary form that appears as a person and ego character.

The identification with a supposed "thinker" and the contents of the thought are nothing but ballast that prevents to recognize who it is that knows the existence of the thought and its contents.

It must be known what has awareness of the thoughts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79653701


I'm not sure what the solution is that is on offer.

Shall we not discuss?

Shall we not teach?

Shall we take vows of silence?

You can know things, discuss things, teach things and still be able to go within, still the mind, and find the source and align with the will.

If you're saying that "Knowing stuff" equates to resting on laurels, sure, there's a danger there and that may apply to me.

However, I have been shown that God is just, kind, patient and loving. Infinitely so.

It might be AMAZING that I've managed to hobble this far in this body in these circumstances to the point I have reached and if I die tomorrow, my accomplishments may be relative to those factors.

To put it plainly: A crack-baby triple amputee mongoloid's best life might be having a single moment of lucid clarity...while a person with nothing but leisure and resource may never have one single moment of introspection and be worthy of a bit of judgment in that regard.

There's always next time, or last time, or another now time.
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7. Technology has existed many times and in many different forms, some of them unrecognizable, and some of the things you read in the Bible and other holy books only make sense if you understand that technology was in use.

9. The Bible was not meant to be in your hands at it's inception.

You know this is true. You know the early church forbid it's followers to read the holy scriptures, they were only for the Priests, the initiated. They did not foresee the Printing Press.

Any questions?
 Quoting: The_Meridian

 Quoting: Where Eagles Dare


Aren't the above two points contradictory?


Yes, but no. You're reading a very compressed list of things to know. The people who kept the books from folks (if that version of history is even true) aren't necessarily the same folks that know that Technology comes and goes or the full scope of what is coming and going.
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Without ado...

1. The Bible is Astrology and is therefore cyclical.


This means that the events in the Bible happen repeatedly and if you understand the code you can know when something is going to happen, and how to get on top of it and emerge on the right side of things.


2. The Bible is Compressed

This means that what you hold in your hands is a zip file. You are looking at the list of contents but you cannot see anything but the filename. The more you read the Bible, the more it decompresses for you.

3. The Bible has Multiple Encryptions

This means that even if you unpack the Bible pretty well, without certain keys you will never truly understand everything it's talking about.

One such key is language. If you are reading a translation, you are certainly going to be missing a LOT.

4. The Bible is Older than you realize.

I will not elaborate on this further except to give you a hint: Israel and Jerusalem and Egypt and other sites in the Bible are not as they seem.


5. Yeshua Bin Yosef of Nazareth was a Man, a Rabbi who familiarized himself with Eastern traditions and used them to point out the hypocrisy of the Priest classes of his time. He was a threat to establishment and was therefore put to death.

"The Christ" is a state of consciousness obtained through meditation. Yeshua was steeped in Christ Consciousness from the time of his Ministry.

"Jesus" is an amalgamation of the Man Yeshua and the Solar God as taught in Egyptian mystery schools. Jesus = Iesus = Isis Jesus is a woman? No, but he comes from Isis, the Holy Mother, Holy Ma-Ri.

Yahweh was a Flesh-and-Blood Being coming from a group of Flesh-and-Blood beings called the Elohim or Annunaki in Sumerian. Some of the stories attributed to Yahweh are taken from Shiva, Vishnu, Ea, Enki, etc. You get the idea. Is Yaweh A "God"? By the standards of the day, certainly.

The Creator, God Most High, is the spirit in all of us. Unknowable and yet ever present. Christ Consciousness is the bridge we need to get to Most High. Nobody gets to the father but through Christ.

6. The Bible is fairly useless as an historical text. Esoteric truths use the basic backbones of certain events to hide themselves in for the initiated.

In other words, was there a flood? Sure, everybody knows that! Was there an Ark? Yeah pretty much! Several, actually and at various times.

Hell, there were floods from space that you can't even begin to understand where DNA was kept like seed vaults back before Man's mind was split into two.

Or not. Who cares?

The point is not to learn about a flood and rainbows and doves but the secrets that are encoded into it that will help you understand yourself, your mind, your spirit and your relation to the Divine.

7. Technology has existed many times and in many different forms, some of them unrecognizable, and some of the things you read in the Bible and other holy books only make sense if you understand that technology was in use.

8. "Psychic Powers" have come and gone and come again several times over in this world and is related to Plasma events that you don't need to understand right now. In short: The more Plasma in the world, the more in your blood, the more charged up you are, and the more power you have.

Technology of any kind is an attempt to restore the loss of plasma powers and/or to replace plasma powers in the common people in order to control them.

9. The Bible was not meant to be in your hands at it's inception.

You know this is true. You know the early church forbid it's followers to read the holy scriptures, they were only for the Priests, the initiated. They did not foresee the Printing Press.

10. The Vatican is the Roman Empire, and the Roman Empire is Government, and Government literally means "Mind Control" (Govern = control, Ment=Mind) The Roman Empire under the disguise of this World-Wide Church owns literally everything including Royalty lines and Corporations and YOU in ways you do not understand. "America" has never been a "free Country" liberated from "England" you are a slave and your parents sign you away to the state a minute after your born and a legal fiction is created out of you as a bond from your afterbirth material.

What? That's crazy! Yep. You don't even know how crazy it gets.



----


Any questions?
 Quoting: The_Meridian



Well now we know what this means: "there is nothing new under the sun".

So then Adam and Eve were not the first creation of man but maybe the 6th.... but allegedly there is supposed to be a last.
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Thank you for posting OP

We need some real truths in this time of fakery and “virtual reality “

This is what glp used to be about

I will dig into some of this material and I thank you again

PS : Do you have any overlap with Santos Bonacci and his Astrotheology ?




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You see, I'm old, and I've learned a thing or two along the way one being this: those who want you to have an "open mind" only want that so that they can fill that open mind with the lies, crap and general garbage that they are into.


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Are you afraid that if our minds are open that your lies, crap and general garbage cannot compete with what we are into?

You reveal an inferior state of being.

Also, your offensive nature reveals the God who rules you.

Just saying.
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When was there ever a father without the son or a son without the father?
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Nope. The whole gnostic twist is a fool’s errand. The Bible is literal. Anything else, any gnostic overlay is subverting. Read it and weep. Just like Jesus did when He saw the state of Jerusalem.
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Gnosticism is to deny the will of God.

I do not deny the will of God, I want to know it and do it as much as possible.

The only way to hear the voice of God is through Christ.

The only way to Christ is through invocation and meditation.

Knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

Ask, and ye shall receive.

All of these things you see me do, ye too shall do, and more.

Gnostics are angry that they are here.

I am not angry that I am here, this is where the Creator sees fit to put me. Now, if I do his will, this place will be Heaven. If I reject his will, this place will be Hell.

It may take a good while to undo the damage that living in hell does to you.

Maybe more than a lifetime.
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Damn man, look at this fuckers karma page:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

And you want to talk about truth?

Lmfao, cunt...
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If the truth is so often removed from GLP then why are Bible threads allowed to remain?
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OP needs to get saved.
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Without ado...

1. The Bible is Astrology and is therefore cyclical.


This means that the events in the Bible happen repeatedly and if you understand the code you can know when something is going to happen, and how to get on top of it and emerge on the right side of things.


2. The Bible is Compressed

This means that what you hold in your hands is a zip file. You are looking at the list of contents but you cannot see anything but the filename. The more you read the Bible, the more it decompresses for you.

3. The Bible has Multiple Encryptions

This means that even if you unpack the Bible pretty well, without certain keys you will never truly understand everything it's talking about.

One such key is language. If you are reading a translation, you are certainly going to be missing a LOT.

4. The Bible is Older than you realize.

I will not elaborate on this further except to give you a hint: Israel and Jerusalem and Egypt and other sites in the Bible are not as they seem.


5. Yeshua Bin Yosef of Nazareth was a Man, a Rabbi who familiarized himself with Eastern traditions and used them to point out the hypocrisy of the Priest classes of his time. He was a threat to establishment and was therefore put to death.

"The Christ" is a state of consciousness obtained through meditation. Yeshua was steeped in Christ Consciousness from the time of his Ministry.

"Jesus" is an amalgamation of the Man Yeshua and the Solar God as taught in Egyptian mystery schools. Jesus = Iesus = Isis Jesus is a woman? No, but he comes from Isis, the Holy Mother, Holy Ma-Ri.

Yahweh was a Flesh-and-Blood Being coming from a group of Flesh-and-Blood beings called the Elohim or Annunaki in Sumerian. Some of the stories attributed to Yahweh are taken from Shiva, Vishnu, Ea, Enki, etc. You get the idea. Is Yaweh A "God"? By the standards of the day, certainly.

The Creator, God Most High, is the spirit in all of us. Unknowable and yet ever present. Christ Consciousness is the bridge we need to get to Most High. Nobody gets to the father but through Christ.

6. The Bible is fairly useless as an historical text. Esoteric truths use the basic backbones of certain events to hide themselves in for the initiated.

In other words, was there a flood? Sure, everybody knows that! Was there an Ark? Yeah pretty much! Several, actually and at various times.

Hell, there were floods from space that you can't even begin to understand where DNA was kept like seed vaults back before Man's mind was split into two.

Or not. Who cares?

The point is not to learn about a flood and rainbows and doves but the secrets that are encoded into it that will help you understand yourself, your mind, your spirit and your relation to the Divine.

7. Technology has existed many times and in many different forms, some of them unrecognizable, and some of the things you read in the Bible and other holy books only make sense if you understand that technology was in use.

8. "Psychic Powers" have come and gone and come again several times over in this world and is related to Plasma events that you don't need to understand right now. In short: The more Plasma in the world, the more in your blood, the more charged up you are, and the more power you have.

Technology of any kind is an attempt to restore the loss of plasma powers and/or to replace plasma powers in the common people in order to control them.

9. The Bible was not meant to be in your hands at it's inception.

You know this is true. You know the early church forbid it's followers to read the holy scriptures, they were only for the Priests, the initiated. They did not foresee the Printing Press.

10. The Vatican is the Roman Empire, and the Roman Empire is Government, and Government literally means "Mind Control" (Govern = control, Ment=Mind) The Roman Empire under the disguise of this World-Wide Church owns literally everything including Royalty lines and Corporations and YOU in ways you do not understand. "America" has never been a "free Country" liberated from "England" you are a slave and your parents sign you away to the state a minute after your born and a legal fiction is created out of you as a bond from your afterbirth material.

What? That's crazy! Yep. You don't even know how crazy it gets.



----


Any questions?
 Quoting: The_Meridian




I am not surprised by any of this. I have been waiting for this type of information to be shared.

My first question, should someone be knowledgeable enough to understand it is, I believe most all believers who have had a "born again" experience will tell you that something "supernatural" took place at that time. You just feel different. Lighter if you will. Like you're walking on air. How do they explain that?

Please don't tell me it is a preprogrammed experience. I don't believe that.

I do believe we have been Lied to about Everything, so it is not that far fetched to consider that there were huge "liberties" taken somewhere along the line.
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The bible is a collection of stories edited together by Men who run the Empire of the world.

They made it so their God the Demiurge plays the role of the Creator.


But you are probably so ignorant about esoteric religious subjects that you dont know what the Demiurge even is.

You are so scared of Lucifer which is a made up name added to the King James bible by Francis Bacon.
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And this is how you so smugly and self-righteously justify Your Rejection of Jesus Christ to yourself.
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If the truth is so often removed from GLP then why are Bible threads allowed to remain?
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You see, I'm old, and I've learned a thing or two along the way one being this: those who want you to have an "open mind" only want that so that they can fill that open mind with the lies, crap and general garbage that they are into.


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Are you afraid
Just saying.
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no not at all. I recognize the new-age bullshit your pushing for what it is, and from whom it originates.... Just saying

and thanks for bumping my post!
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You are absolutely right about that.

That is why it is also said that he who seeks should seek until he finds.

But what you are completely wrong with basically is your understanding to believe that something can be done in the person.

The sentence "Be still and know I am God" is essential here.

It is all about recognizing yourself as what is there when the person is not there. In stillness. And there is only one way to do this: let go of the person.

Of course, even those who know the truth are usually not able to let go and overcome the identification with the illusionary I-Character. And then it is necessary to think until this ego energy is exhausted....

chuckle
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Right. See, your instinct was to tell me "You're wrong!" because of some perceived omission on your part. But in fact I pointed out the bit about Christ Conciousness which is a gateway tidbit for the neophyte which will lead to meditation and quieting the mind and all of the stuff you thought I didn't say or don't know.

This post is not for the expert, it's for people who don't know these basic things.

You have to blow a mind before you can rebuild a mind, if you get my meaning.
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I know exactly what your post was about.

And I was especially about you, because you yourself have set the hurdles for you to arrive in reality extremely high, because you have erected gigantic thought buildings and the pride to have a lot of knowledge and to have understood everything, the gravity in the person enormously strengthened and makes an escape impossible.

What I am concerned with is that you understand that you do yourself and others no favor if you present gigantic mazes.

The Bible, Jesus and all the other great teachers of history are about something very, very simple:

You are the self-knowing substance and not just the temporary form that appears as a person and ego character.

The identification with a supposed "thinker" and the contents of the thought are nothing but ballast that prevents to recognize who it is that knows the existence of the thought and its contents.

It must be known what has awareness of the thoughts.
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I'm not sure what the solution is that is on offer.

Shall we not discuss?

Shall we not teach?

Shall we take vows of silence?

You can know things, discuss things, teach things and still be able to go within, still the mind, and find the source and align with the will.

If you're saying that "Knowing stuff" equates to resting on laurels, sure, there's a danger there and that may apply to me.

However, I have been shown that God is just, kind, patient and loving. Infinitely so.

It might be AMAZING that I've managed to hobble this far in this body in these circumstances to the point I have reached and if I die tomorrow, my accomplishments may be relative to those factors.

To put it plainly: A crack-baby triple amputee mongoloid's best life might be having a single moment of lucid clarity...while a person with nothing but leisure and resource may never have one single moment of introspection and be worthy of a bit of judgment in that regard.

There's always next time, or last time, or another now time.
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Two things need to be distinguished here:

Within the material illusion, one can and must of course act as a supposedly willing individual.

In the religious/spiritual context in which we are speaking here, however, it must be clear that absolutely nothing can be achieved in the person.

The only thing that can be achieved at all is to recognize one' s true identity and true nature.

What you are doing is merely reinforcing the delusion. And this is what I have been pointing to.

There is a beautiful quote, from Rumi, the Sufi poet:

"You have a task to perform. You may do what you like, you may carry out hundreds of plans, you may be active without interruption - but if you do not fulfill this one task, all your time will be wasted."
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If the truth is so often removed from GLP then why are Bible threads allowed to remain?
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experience will tell you that something "supernatural" took place at that time. You just feel different. Lighter if you will. Like you're walking on air. How do they explain that?

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You and your endlessly bemoaning lack of "experience."

Those that tell stories usually have to make it a story worth-telling which usually involves some exaggeration.

Why would most tell you they felt no super-special magical anything, but just came to a point of decision in their lives?

You choose to continue to manifest your emptiness to yourself

like a woman who simply refuses to be happy.
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Well, it's great if you're already there, right?

For a great many, thinking is what orients them into the right direction.
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You are absolutely right about that.

That is why it is also said that he who seeks should seek until he finds.

But what you are completely wrong with basically is your understanding to believe that something can be done in the person.

The sentence "Be still and know I am God" is essential here.

It is all about recognizing yourself as what is there when the person is not there. In stillness. And there is only one way to do this: let go of the person.

Of course, even those who know the truth are usually not able to let go and overcome the identification with the illusionary I-Character. And then it is necessary to think until this ego energy is exhausted....

chuckle
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Right. See, your instinct was to tell me "You're wrong!" because of some perceived omission on your part. But in fact I pointed out the bit about Christ Conciousness which is a gateway tidbit for the neophyte which will lead to meditation and quieting the mind and all of the stuff you thought I didn't say or don't know.

This post is not for the expert, it's for people who don't know these basic things.

You have to blow a mind before you can rebuild a mind, if you get my meaning.
 Quoting: The_Meridian


I know exactly what your post was about.

And I was especially about you, because you yourself have set the hurdles for you to arrive in reality extremely high, because you have erected gigantic thought buildings and the pride to have a lot of knowledge and to have understood everything, the gravity in the person enormously strengthened and makes an escape impossible.

What I am concerned with is that you understand that you do yourself and others no favor if you present gigantic mazes.

The Bible, Jesus and all the other great teachers of history are about something very, very simple:

You are the self-knowing substance and not just the temporary form that appears as a person and ego character.

The identification with a supposed "thinker" and the contents of the thought are nothing but ballast that prevents to recognize who it is that knows the existence of the thought and its contents.

It must be known what has awareness of the thoughts.
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iamwith...lol
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If the truth is so often removed from GLP then why are Bible threads allowed to remain?
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That the Disciples had miraculous experiences that testify to al of us to this day

day not mean all of us are supposed to be having those same miraculous experiences to this day.

When Satan arrives showing his most miraculous signs and wonders for you to experience,

will you be deceived?
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That the Disciples had miraculous experiences that testify to all of us to this day

does not mean all of us are supposed to be having those same miraculous experiences to this day.

When Satan arrives showing his most miraculous signs and wonders for you to experience,

will you be deceived?

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