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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78348373 United States 01/29/2021 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING INTEL - How Discrediting Attacks are Disguised - How To Recognize Them and Why You Want To? Define trolling, or Larping, and then read through this thread. Everyone is just asking OP to explain what is a growing pile of evidence that OP is using proxies to play some kind of game, often posting on both sides of the same issue. For 2 days now, yet he refuses to address it. Why? Because it’s true. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78569105 United States 01/29/2021 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING INTEL - How Discrediting Attacks are Disguised - How To Recognize Them and Why You Want To? Define trolling, or Larping, and then read through this thread. Everyone is just asking OP to explain what is a growing pile of evidence that OP is using proxies to play some kind of game, often posting on both sides of the same issue. For 2 days now, yet he refuses to address it. Why? Because it’s true. It gets better- This is an interesting one to investigate: 77318332 It links Tardicus and NDFarm, which is interesting because we have previously seen that AblePatriot links to Tardicus and occasionally to NDFarm. So now we have three users simultaneously sharing multiple user IDs. Coincidence becomes less and less of a possibility. OP, A growing community continues to wait for your response... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78559000 United States 01/29/2021 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING INTEL - How Discrediting Attacks are Disguised - How To Recognize Them and Why You Want To? For those who missed the reveal yesterday and continued proof piling up today, AblePatriot was outed as a shill/proxy cross-posting fraud. Why does ablepatriot share user ids with a handful of other identities? Hmmmm. Do a user id search on: Your own user id , to confirm that it is unique Then his, to confirm that he shares them with some other posters. Interesting indeed. Try 79546192 and 77929774 Make sure to look at posts AND replies in the advanced search options. I guess I can buy that coincidentally two users may share an IP- but the same two users Sharing two DIFFERENT IPs? In the span of 90 days? The user ids above BOTH map to both ablepatriot and Maximus tardicus. When Maximus tardicus stops posting, able patriot appears. Also, at least one of them maps as well to forum favorite NDFarm. Some users went down THAT rabbit hole and found even more odd ID matches. What’s going on here? AblePatriot, being totally outed and embarrassed, has thus far refused to explain why he appears to be several people who post and reply to themselves. We continue to wait, my Larping friend... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78559000 United States 01/29/2021 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING INTEL - How Discrediting Attacks are Disguised - How To Recognize Them and Why You Want To? We see dozens of shared ID's now with Maximum Tardicus and NDFARM, all trolling us hard from the standpoint of the far-right and the far-left. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78592355 Then we have the country (Austria, and ID number) matching hundreds of replies to his own threads. It gets better- This is an interesting one to investigate: 77318332 It links Tardicus and NDFarm, which is interesting because we have previously seen that AblePatriot links to Tardicus and occasionally to NDFarm. So now we have THREE users simultaneously sharing multiple user IDs over just a few months. Coincidence becomes less and less of a possibility. OP, A growing community continues to wait for your response... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79983862 Canada 01/29/2021 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING INTEL - How Discrediting Attacks are Disguised - How To Recognize Them and Why You Want To? How Discrediting Attacks Are Disguised Quoting: AblePatriot A basic primer on how the enemy operates, their tactics and their true motives to suppress the truth, everywhere. Given everything that has been said so far, it is obvious that discrediting attacks, whatever their motive, generally take place under heavy disguise. First, the attacker must portray his attack as an attempt to support the order of values of society by exposing a violator who deserves to be exposed, in essence enhancing his own image as he assaults another's. If this were all there were to these disguise, we might have an easier time discerning the role of discredit, domination, assertiveness and sadism in public life. But the disguise of motives is often supplemented by a far more insidious deception, one that masks the fact that an attack is taking place at all or that the journalist or attacker is the one making the attack. Journalists and other communicators often portray themselves as merely asking questions, reporting what others say or describing events, when everyone knows a verbal mugging is actually taking place that may leave the designated victim stripped of the self-defense provided by an effective image. Fortunately, these disguises tend to be very transparent once one begins to identify the various games and strategies that are being used. Once that has been achieved, we can begin to expose these disguised attempts to expose others; we can discredit these disguised attempts to discredit; and hold these attempts to embarrass others up to embarrassing scrutiny. If all this sounds familiar, it is because what we will be doing is applying a more sophisticated version of the techniques used by journalists, themselves, turning the tables on the great table-turners and holding them up to a kind of scrutiny that reveals the degree to which our media and public culture are steeped in both dishonesty and cruelty. Like the journalists, our basic technique will be to contrast image, as it is presented, with an underlying reality or, at least, with what we claim is an underlying reality. We will look at what journalists claim they are doing and what they are really doing, and see that the twain meet a lot less often than one might think. Given the complex motives all people have when they communicate, there is no doubt but that the disguises we will examine, here, are merely an example of the disguises that all of us use when we communicate. For all of us, there is a disparity between the actions we engage in and those we claim we are engaging in. That doesn’t let journalists off the hook, but it does put what they do in a larger context. Here, than, is an incomplete compendium of some of the ways journalists, and others, go about dominating and harming those they encounter, while they claim to be upholding the value order of society and just doing their jobs. Also included are some of the justifications that journalists tell themselves and have ready to offer others, to explain why what they are doing is right and proper. The techniques listed aren’t exhaustive or mutually exclusive and some can be considered variations on each other: CONTRAST IMAGE AND REALITY. As alluded to earlier, this is a basic method for discrediting someone or something, which is part of all the other techniques described. In it, the journalist shows the claims that are being made and contrasts them with other information, to show that those claims are false. The justification is often that the journalist is just reporting – just getting at the facts or just finding the truth - despite a manipulation intended to conceal the truth. PORTRAY WRONGDOING AND HIGHLIGHT EMBARRASSING MOMENTS AND FACTS. Simple, elegant, often unchallengeable. Journalists simply show or describe their subjects engaging in actions that are deemed by many to be violations of the value order of society, and then they wait for their subjects to be attacked by others, and to desperately try to explain themselves. They show footage of the bank robbers or describe the offending remarks, and then sit back and enjoy the reaction (and begin working on the follow-up story). ... more at article Full Article [link to www.transparencynow.com (secure)] Examples of Basic Discrediting Attacks (Self Guided Tutorial) Thread: BREAKING STREET INTEL - Rome Priest Explains Masonic Takeover Agenda. 'We are living in a very dark age and people need to hear the truth.' Thread: BREAKING REVELATION - I now understand the meaning of code 11-3 and its not military, its in the Bible. Thread: BREAKING INTEL – America is coming back. It will be ugly and it will be glorious. A bedtime story. Don't worry bro. All these people that engage in this kind of shit and manipulative behavior in the dark, are on a list. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79975909 United States 01/29/2021 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING INTEL - How Discrediting Attacks are Disguised - How To Recognize Them and Why You Want To? How Discrediting Attacks Are Disguised Quoting: AblePatriot A basic primer on how the enemy operates, their tactics and their true motives to suppress the truth, everywhere. Given everything that has been said so far, it is obvious that discrediting attacks, whatever their motive, generally take place under heavy disguise. First, the attacker must portray his attack as an attempt to support the order of values of society by exposing a violator who deserves to be exposed, in essence enhancing his own image as he assaults another's. If this were all there were to these disguise, we might have an easier time discerning the role of discredit, domination, assertiveness and sadism in public life. But the disguise of motives is often supplemented by a far more insidious deception, one that masks the fact that an attack is taking place at all or that the journalist or attacker is the one making the attack. Journalists and other communicators often portray themselves as merely asking questions, reporting what others say or describing events, when everyone knows a verbal mugging is actually taking place that may leave the designated victim stripped of the self-defense provided by an effective image. Fortunately, these disguises tend to be very transparent once one begins to identify the various games and strategies that are being used. Once that has been achieved, we can begin to expose these disguised attempts to expose others; we can discredit these disguised attempts to discredit; and hold these attempts to embarrass others up to embarrassing scrutiny. If all this sounds familiar, it is because what we will be doing is applying a more sophisticated version of the techniques used by journalists, themselves, turning the tables on the great table-turners and holding them up to a kind of scrutiny that reveals the degree to which our media and public culture are steeped in both dishonesty and cruelty. Like the journalists, our basic technique will be to contrast image, as it is presented, with an underlying reality or, at least, with what we claim is an underlying reality. We will look at what journalists claim they are doing and what they are really doing, and see that the twain meet a lot less often than one might think. Given the complex motives all people have when they communicate, there is no doubt but that the disguises we will examine, here, are merely an example of the disguises that all of us use when we communicate. For all of us, there is a disparity between the actions we engage in and those we claim we are engaging in. That doesn’t let journalists off the hook, but it does put what they do in a larger context. Here, than, is an incomplete compendium of some of the ways journalists, and others, go about dominating and harming those they encounter, while they claim to be upholding the value order of society and just doing their jobs. Also included are some of the justifications that journalists tell themselves and have ready to offer others, to explain why what they are doing is right and proper. The techniques listed aren’t exhaustive or mutually exclusive and some can be considered variations on each other: CONTRAST IMAGE AND REALITY. As alluded to earlier, this is a basic method for discrediting someone or something, which is part of all the other techniques described. In it, the journalist shows the claims that are being made and contrasts them with other information, to show that those claims are false. The justification is often that the journalist is just reporting – just getting at the facts or just finding the truth - despite a manipulation intended to conceal the truth. PORTRAY WRONGDOING AND HIGHLIGHT EMBARRASSING MOMENTS AND FACTS. Simple, elegant, often unchallengeable. Journalists simply show or describe their subjects engaging in actions that are deemed by many to be violations of the value order of society, and then they wait for their subjects to be attacked by others, and to desperately try to explain themselves. They show footage of the bank robbers or describe the offending remarks, and then sit back and enjoy the reaction (and begin working on the follow-up story). ... more at article Full Article [link to www.transparencynow.com (secure)] Examples of Basic Discrediting Attacks (Self Guided Tutorial) Thread: BREAKING STREET INTEL - Rome Priest Explains Masonic Takeover Agenda. 'We are living in a very dark age and people need to hear the truth.' Thread: BREAKING REVELATION - I now understand the meaning of code 11-3 and its not military, its in the Bible. Thread: BREAKING INTEL – America is coming back. It will be ugly and it will be glorious. A bedtime story. Don't worry bro. All these people that engage in this kind of shit and manipulative behavior in the dark, are on a list. It's a small group of people that control thousands of BOTS. It's obvious. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78619133 United States 01/29/2021 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING INTEL - How Discrediting Attacks are Disguised - How To Recognize Them and Why You Want To? not glp's...china's threefitty trash USE SARCASM, MOCKERY, CARICATURE, TREAT SOMEONE OR SOME ACTION AS A JOKE The question that has to be asked about much of this is the following: if journalists have to wrap their attacks in disguises, does this mean the reasons they implicitly or explicitly give for what they are doing are all merely disguises? Can’t a journalist genuinely be trying to uphold the values of society in making an attack? The answer is yes, although, as noted elsewhere, ferreting out what is what is a complicated issue, given the complex motives behind human communication. If a journalist has partially sincere motives then those will be presented as part of his image, while less sincere motives will be hidden. The problem is that journalists have abused these reasons and justifications to such a degree, it becomes difficult to see any of them as sincere. But if we take the position that attacks like these are never sincere or legitimate, then the attacks on journalistic attacks you are reading right now must also be insincere and illegitimate. And if you were to attack my attacks, that would be insincere. Clearly, a position of radical skepticism like this goes too far. So the question becomes: how can we determine if efforts to discredit are sincere and legitimate, and, beyond that, is sincerity a justification? And if not, what criteria can we use to determine if discrediting attacks are legitimate. If there are two discrediting attacks and I consider one sincere but wrong and the other insincere but right, how do I make a moral judgment? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78344313 United States 01/29/2021 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING INTEL - How Discrediting Attacks are Disguised - How To Recognize Them and Why You Want To? Why does ablepatriot share user ids with a handful of other identities? Hmmmm. Do a user id search on: Your own user id , to confirm that it is unique Then his, to confirm that he shares them with some other posters. Interesting indeed. Try 79546192 and 77929774 Make sure to look at posts AND replies in the advanced search options. I guess I can buy that coincidentally two users may share an IP- but the same two users Sharing two DIFFERENT IPs? In the span of 90 days? The user ids above BOTH map to both ablepatriot and Maximus tardicus. When Maximus tardicus stops posting, able patriot appears. Also, at least one of them maps as well to forum favorite NDFarm. Some users went down THAT rabbit hole and found even more odd ID matches. What’s going on here? AblePatriot, being totally outed and embarrassed, has thus far refused to explain why he appears to be several people who post and reply to themselves. We continue to wait, my Larping friend... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78344313 United States 01/29/2021 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING INTEL - How Discrediting Attacks are Disguised - How To Recognize Them and Why You Want To? We see dozens of shared ID's now with Maximum Tardicus and NDFARM, all trolling us hard from the standpoint of the far-right and the far-left. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78592355 Then we have the country (Austria, and ID number) matching hundreds of replies to his own threads. It gets better- This is an interesting one to investigate: 77318332 It links Tardicus and NDFarm, which is interesting because we have previously seen that AblePatriot links to Tardicus and occasionally to NDFarm. So now we have THREE users simultaneously sharing multiple user IDs over just a few months. Coincidence becomes less and less of a possibility. OP, A growing community continues to wait for your response... |
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User ID: 79987139 United States 01/29/2021 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING INTEL - How Discrediting Attacks are Disguised - How To Recognize Them and Why You Want To? So now that everyone is patting themselves on the back for discovering all this after the fact... Any of you Sherlocks care to offer the answer to the question "Why?" ? Who pays him exactly? Can you prove it? Why does he post something truthful and un 17 related like this and why are you so triggered by it? Are you sure he isn't suffering from Trauma or mental health issues and that he doesn't actually believe what he posts? Are you sure his efforts were not borne out of a felt "need" to get the information out in whatever way he could? I'm just not sure what you are so proud of. We have TONS of multi account bullshitters on here that don't get near the scrutiny of this guy who sometimes gets it right, despite being a die hard Qballer. You say on one hand that Qballers are designed to taint and poison the truth and at the same time don't consider that some of them are trying to tell truths and don't know any better that they were fooled. They don't intend harm, they just got scammed and their truths diluted with piss. So now you piss on top of it? You attacking the hardest are the exact thing you are painting him and others to be. Shilltards trying to focus on the known bullshit and pretend it represents the whole message. Pretty fucking pathetic on both sides if you ask me. If you actually care that we are going down a Marxist shithole, you all would focus on what CAN BE PROVEN and what CAN BE DONE instead of chasing ghosts of yesterday and jerking yourself off for accomplishing NOTHING OF VALUE. Congrats. You found the mental patient and embarrassed him. Now how about working on the real issues for once? The universe is basically an animal. It grazes on the ordinary. It creates infinite idiots just to eat them. The Rickest Rick Sanchez comments are meant for entertainment purposes only and should not be construed to reflect the feelings and opinions, implied or expressed, of the author. |
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User ID: 79987139 United States 01/29/2021 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING INTEL - How Discrediting Attacks are Disguised - How To Recognize Them and Why You Want To? More incoming oddly long posts supporting OP to bury the truth Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78344313 Wait for it, wait for it.... Jesus. Literally exactly what his post is talking about right here. Pre-emptive posturing designed to invalidate accurate and proper responses. The psy op equivalent of tag, you're it, NO TAGBACKS. haha. Fucking juveniles. I'm rubber and you're glue. What you say bounces off me and sticks to you. Take that motherfuckers. You're toast now. omfg The universe is basically an animal. It grazes on the ordinary. It creates infinite idiots just to eat them. The Rickest Rick Sanchez comments are meant for entertainment purposes only and should not be construed to reflect the feelings and opinions, implied or expressed, of the author. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78493814 United States 01/29/2021 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING INTEL - How Discrediting Attacks are Disguised - How To Recognize Them and Why You Want To? Let’s see..... -He lied multiple times -Nothing he predicted ever came true -Some of his proxy identities hold polar opposite views and argue with each other -he promotes the known fraud Simon Parkes -he’s shockingly arrogant for a tard -he’s clearly got some kind of ulterior motive given he argues both sides of the issue (again, often with himself). I think that works for starters. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79373307 United Kingdom 01/29/2021 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING INTEL - How Discrediting Attacks are Disguised - How To Recognize Them and Why You Want To? Define trolling, or Larping, and then read through this thread. Everyone is just asking OP to explain what is a growing pile of evidence that OP is using proxies to play some kind of game, often posting on both sides of the same issue. For 2 days now, yet he refuses to address it. Why? Because it’s true. You're all a bunch of bitches! |