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Islam A Religion of Peace.hmmm WARNING - VIDEO INSIDE

 
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now we see all these islam poster there try to convert others to there peacefull religion, but i would like to share a very very sad and sick story, a man name Eugene Armstrong was taken prisioner by Muslims and he was beheading, peace to him and his familie, big respect from me. there is no way we can bring mr. Eugene Armstrong back, but we can tell the true about how islam is and how the share there way of peace, i would like to warn all there can't handle this kind of "islam peace" BEWARE BEHEADING is in this video, so you are warned, if u have liltte nevers, DONT WATCH, forget it, push back..go out. but for you, there think islam is peace, please try wake up..


WARNING...TEXT CAN BE BRUTAL

When the cut him, try hear how the praise allah. lets say if allah did like this, then hes truely not the good God, but satan.......how can the say its a peace religion, when its not?
why do muslims, there think its is a peace religion, not go out in streets and defend islam for its peace, instead, when the danish cartoons came out, there was outrage!vbut still not outrage against beheading, weird
when u see picture or video from palistina, u see them defend mohammed and say islam is a peace religion, while the carring the quran and a AK-47, its that peace?

please answer uself those quistion.mr muslims and watch this sad and sick video, i got weird after i saw it, so u all are warned.

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therefor ISLAM A RELIGION OF PEACE...noway




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And this is what your bloody Danish soldiers are doing in Afghanistan and Iraq, soldiers of peace!!
my ar....
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And this is what your bloody Danish soldiers are doing in Afghanistan and Iraq, soldiers of peace!!
my ar....
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sad, we have lost some soldiers there, and i really mean what i say now, i think its really sad, we have this war and we are there, i want to think we are there to free the people of Afghanistan and Iraq, Iraq, im not sure about why we are there, but im sure we are there for peace in Afghanistan, but sadly those talebans, the keeps attack, we defend...i think its sad that people of Afghanistan is prisioner in this war, becuase those damns talebans, the came from parkistan, its should be fight there, but, we do ofcorse know why its not been fighting there, mr. bush little parki kid, is in power. those are just as sad, as mr. bin laden, the same cup of tea.
but please, danish soldiers are more friendly than us soldiers.


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And this is what your bloody Danish soldiers are doing in Afghanistan and Iraq, soldiers of peace!!
my ar....
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and do you see danish soldiers beheading those there? or do we have the bible up in the air and prais god, everytime we kill a enemy? NO, islam is misuse a religion to win power, a very very sick way to gain controll...forced religion...hmmmmm...damn, its time for u muslims to defend the true islam, in its true from, not this bin laden islam we see today.


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sad, we have lost some soldiers there, and i really mean what i say now, i think its really sad, we have this war and we are there, i want to think we are there to free the people of Afghanistan and Iraq, Iraq, im not sure about why we are there, but im sure we are there for peace in Afghanistan, but sadly those talebans, the keeps attack, we defend...i think its sad that people of Afghanistan is prisioner in this war, becuase those damns talebans, the came from parkistan, its should be fight there, but, we do ofcorse know why its not been fighting there, mr. bush little parki kid, is in power. those are just as sad, as mr. bin laden, the same cup of tea.
but please, danish soldiers are more friendly than us soldiers.


DANE
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Taiban = CIA. Get a clue asshat. Maybe you havn't noticed that opium production in Afghanistan has increased over 300%?

Gee, I wonder why.
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And this is what your bloody Danish soldiers are doing in Afghanistan and Iraq, soldiers of peace!!
my ar....
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This going to be repeated again and again

the islam is a fraud and full of lies
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Taiban = CIA. Get a clue asshat. Maybe you havn't noticed that opium production in Afghanistan has increased over 300%?

Gee, I wonder why.
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i think taliban is a part of cia, or other like that, like i said, bush and laden is same cup of tea :-) sad the misuse a religion, but thats why i get angry, if any was misuse my religion, i will defend it.

if i did see a dansih soldier, use bible when he shout other people, i will write a letter and i will call to all those i could so the did it too, i will make an uprise, believe me.
im that kind of a person, if i got a problem with anything, if i buy, i always go to the boss :-)



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Truly sick! Words can not describe my feelings right now. This is a "religion" of satan, no living person can defend Islam for this behavior.
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Truly sick! Words can not describe my feelings right now. This is a "religion" of satan, no living person can defend Islam for this behavior.
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i feel the same, sad and very sick.



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If any of you haters of Islam has the least minimum, cultural education, you would realise that the most extreme sects in Islam, as their are such in Christianity and Judiaism, are those Wahabites that were created and supported and financed by the Saudis.

Then ask yourselves who is supporting the Saudis, none less than the Benevolent government and administration of the US.

The remaining Europeans and most Scandinavians are lackeys to the US/UK and follow like a tail,no questions asked.

Pure Sheeple.
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I was passive about Islam before this. I lived in a fantasy that not all of them felt this way or that these things really were happening. But by the way that none of the Muslims on this site have condemned this speaks a thousand words to me.

I don't think I will ever be the same. May those that commit these actions be held accountable by God and hopefully very soon for the sake of the whole world.

Peace be with you Dane I wish I could thank you for sharing and in a way I do, however, this was and is the sickest thing I have ever seen.
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If any of you haters of Islam has the least minimum, cultural education, you would realise that the most extreme sects in Islam, as their are such in Christianity and Judiaism, are those Wahabites that were created and supported and financed by the Saudis.

Then ask yourselves who is supporting the Saudis, none less than the Benevolent government and administration of the US.

The remaining Europeans and most Scandinavians are lackeys to the US/UK and follow like a tail,no questions asked.

Pure Sheeple.
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please im tired of what christians did, thats over 500 years ago and 2000 years ago, please, this is today, the year 2007, there is alot of difference, but i will agree there are very very small "fanatics" christians left today, but, thats the good part of it, when we see what the do or hear about it, we are speaking up, we are going against it, but HAVE YOU EVER SEEN ANY MUSLIMS do that to bin laden, to people there get stoned for been raped or u get to jail for call a teddy bear mohammed or u almost start ww3, becuase of some cartoons, did you see any muslims go against it, NO. why?
we are followers of nobody in DK, we are helping, we work with many nations, but Denmark are in front in many places and its those contryies there look how we do it in Denmark. so please



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If any of you haters of Islam has the least minimum, cultural education, you would realise that the most extreme sects in Islam, as their are such in Christianity and Judiaism, are those Wahabites that were created and supported and financed by the Saudis.

Then ask yourselves who is supporting the Saudis, none less than the Benevolent government and administration of the US.

The remaining Europeans and most Scandinavians are lackeys to the US/UK and follow like a tail,no questions asked.

Pure Sheeple.
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im a hater of those there misuse a religion to gain controol. those humans there want to praise a god, or a goat are welcome, as long the are peacefull and the not demand me to worhship a goat or a god i don't believe, i believe in a creator without name, then im sure not to be betrayed. but forced relgion is NOT a part of the creators plan.


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I was passive about Islam before this. I lived in a fantasy that not all of them felt this way or that these things really were happening. But by the way that none of the Muslims on this site have condemned this speaks a thousand words to me.

I don't think I will ever be the same. May those that commit these actions be held accountable by God and hopefully very soon for the sake of the whole world.

Peace be with you Dane I wish I could thank you for sharing and in a way I do, however, this was and is the sickest thing I have ever seen.
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peace to you to, but im sure its not all muslims there do this, but i don't understand why the not speak up against it, its that for me there is weird.


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The Middel Eastern definition of peace surely differs from the rest of the world.

A true jihaadist can with the sword in his hand scream PEACE,
and in the next moment cut your head off.

In Ebeltoft where i live we have some words to describe the islamic behavior: sinnsyke perverse djevler
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The Middel Eastern definition of peace surely differs from the rest of the world.

A true jihaadist can with the sword in his hand scream PEACE,
and in the next moment cut your head off.

In Ebeltoft where i live we have some words to describe the islamic behavior: sinnsyke perverse djevler
 Quoting: Stefan Andersen 340342



:-) the sure do, peace is = death, well thats is a kind of peace to.
i know what u mean :-)"sinnsyke perverse djevler" the are cracy, and the worst, those there do it, think god is with them, that is the most dangerous people u can handle with.



PS. u from norway? and live in DK or? i can see the way u write sinnsyke perverse djevler, thats norwegian, but the city
Ebeltoft is in DK



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I was passive about Islam before this. I lived in a fantasy that not all of them felt this way or that these things really were happening. But by the way that none of the Muslims on this site have condemned this speaks a thousand words to me.

I don't think I will ever be the same. May those that commit these actions be held accountable by God and hopefully very soon for the sake of the whole world.

Peace be with you Dane I wish I could thank you for sharing and in a way I do, however, this was and is the sickest thing I have ever seen.



peace to you to, but im sure its not all muslims there do this, but i don't understand why the not speak up against it, its that for me there is weird.


DANE
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Oh I agree Dane, it is weird. Like its weird that some of us Christians think we are that while we support war, or while we support the death penalty or many other crimes against God. And its really weird how the jews tolerate the fascist and genocidal against palestinians behaviour according to many of their state.
Its indeed a weird world. Cruelty and evil is just that whether a muslim or jew of Christian does it.
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PS. u from norway? and live in DK or?
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Yep
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The Middel Eastern definition of peace surely differs from the rest of the world.

A true jihaadist can with the sword in his hand scream PEACE,
and in the next moment cut your head off.

In Ebeltoft where i live we have some words to describe the islamic behavior: sinnsyke perverse djevler
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Just as a zionits will say shalom while he shoots on unarmed civilians.
Evil is evil.
The war of words has begun.
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Oh I agree Dane, it is weird. Like its weird that some of us Christians think we are that while we support war, or while we support the death penalty or many other crimes against God. And its really weird how the jews tolerate the fascist and genocidal against palestinians behaviour according to many of their state.
Its indeed a weird world. Cruelty and evil is just that whether a muslim or jew of Christian does it.
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i have think, how would i think if i was a muslim, i came up with, maybe i would be one of those there plant the roadside bomb, but a head-cutter, NEVER. i can understand some muslims, but the are wrong and blame the wrong, its there own govement the should blame, its them there make false statement about the west, and im sure the west do that about those in middeeast and those contryies to, but we in west, know it, but down there, the act like cracy when the can or shall we say, when the are allowed to demostrate. i can understand a teenage in palestina, blow him self up, but i have grow up in west and know, its wrong, but if i was there, and have no other way to speak up, maybe i would do the same, but i sure do know, it would never help, but that again, im born in the west, and i can speak free, i can come out with my words, how i feel, and so on, but the can't, but that not our fault, that there govenments, but i know when u can't speak free, u get frustrated, and its popular to hate the west, so like a dance on the wave.


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PS. u from norway? and live in DK or?

Yep
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cool, hope you enjoy you stay here.

sorry for offtopic.


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Oh I agree Dane, it is weird. Like its weird that some of us Christians think we are that while we support war, or while we support the death penalty or many other crimes against God. And its really weird how the jews tolerate the fascist and genocidal against palestinians behaviour according to many of their state.
Its indeed a weird world. Cruelty and evil is just that whether a muslim or jew of Christian does it.




i have think, how would i think if i was a muslim, i came up with, maybe i would be one of those there plant the roadside bomb, but a head-cutter, NEVER. i can understand some muslims, but the are wrong and blame the wrong, its there own govement the should blame, its them there make false statement about the west, and im sure the west do that about those in middeeast and those contryies to, but we in west, know it, but down there, the act like cracy when the can or shall we say, when the are allowed to demostrate. i can understand a teenage in palestina, blow him self up, but i have grow up in west and know, its wrong, but if i was there, and have no other way to speak up, maybe i would do the same, but i sure do know, it would never help, but that again, im born in the west, and i can speak free, i can come out with my words, how i feel, and so on, but the can't, but that not our fault, that there govenments, but i know when u can't speak free, u get frustrated, and its popular to hate the west, so like a dance on the wave.


DANE
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Killing is evil, wether its cutting peoples head off or by lethal injection or by bulldozing or shooting or bombing.
In America there is the death penalty, if you think those in death row die swiftly and painlessly think again, research it.
Evil is evil no matter where or by whom.
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And our peacle loving humanitarian American Christians just kill people wholesale from a safe distance. Want proof? Check the news of the past 50 years ...
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Killing is evil, wether its cutting peoples head off or by lethal injection or by bulldozing or shooting or bombing.
In America there is the death penalty, if you think those in death row die swiftly and painlessly think again, research it.
Evil is evil no matter where or by whom.
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ofcorse, but u don't see them dance and listen to jihad music or hold the bible in the hand, while hes dying, the priest maybe follow him up to what ever way he shall die, but thats only for saving he's soul, islam use islam to kill and sing happy mohammed songs while the beheading heads..there are different in religion way, but i agree killing is evil, no matter how or who there do it.



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sad, we have lost some soldiers there, and i really mean what i say now, i think its really sad, we have this war and we are there, i want to think we are there to free the people of Afghanistan and Iraq, Iraq, im not sure about why we are there, but im sure we are there for peace in Afghanistan, but sadly those talebans, the keeps attack, we defend...i think its sad that people of Afghanistan is prisioner in this war, becuase those damns talebans, the came from parkistan, its should be fight there, but, we do ofcorse know why its not been fighting there, mr. bush little parki kid, is in power. those are just as sad, as mr. bin laden, the same cup of tea.
but please, danish soldiers are more friendly than us soldiers.


DANE



Taiban = CIA. Get a clue asshat. Maybe you havn't noticed that opium production in Afghanistan has increased over 300%?

Gee, I wonder why.
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Sorry, but you forget that the opium producing land is under talibaz control. That's what they use to buy weapons.
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And our peacle loving humanitarian American Christians just kill people wholesale from a safe distance. Want proof? Check the news of the past 50 years ...
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do the dance and keep the bible up in the air, while the do it, that the point here, we all do know killing is wrong, that not the point here, the point is, the say islam is a peace relgion, but try see video, try see how the praise Allah, while cut he head OFF.hmmmm, a peace religion, and thats a weird thing all those there say and think islam is a peace religion, the don't go on the streets and demostrate against this rape of a religion, why not?



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sure, u can never say never in this world, that for sure, anything is poss.



DANE
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That's very open minded of you DANE...are you familiar with the Nick Berg beheading tape?

This video, if it IS a fake...(note I said IF)...is much better done then the Nick Berg vid...

I am pretty much convinced that that video is fake.
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sure, u can never say never in this world, that for sure, anything is poss.



DANE


That's very open minded of you DANE...are you familiar with the Nick Berg beheading tape?

This video, if it IS a fake...(note I said IF)...is much better done then the Nick Berg vid...

I am pretty much convinced that that video is fake.
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Of course you are - it's the religion of peace, afterall..

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That's very open minded of you DANE...are you familiar with the Nick Berg beheading tape?

This video, if it IS a fake...(note I said IF)...is much better done then the Nick Berg vid...

I am pretty much convinced that that video is fake.
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yes, i have seen it, some could be make to mislead, but im sure some are real, sadly.

i can understand you are a muslim, i will ask you this, why do muslims not defend theres religion? i would love to see an uprising against bin ladens and his people.
i maybe can understand some places is hard to be the 1 man against 1000 of bin laden types, but its weird for me, that in west, the should show the true form of islam, if there is such a way. if we get dealed with bin laden's men, then we could get bush's men after and maybe bring some peace to this planet, once for all. we people deserved it



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Killing is evil, wether its cutting peoples head off or by lethal injection or by bulldozing or shooting or bombing.
In America there is the death penalty, if you think those in death row die swiftly and painlessly think again, research it.
Evil is evil no matter where or by whom.



ofcorse, but u don't see them dance and listen to jihad music or hold the bible in the hand, while hes dying, the priest maybe follow him up to what ever way he shall die, but thats only for saving he's soul, islam use islam to kill and sing happy mohammed songs while the beheading heads..there are different in religion way, but i agree killing is evil, no matter how or who there do it.



DANE
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What about the neocon zionists trying to bomb Jesus back into existence?
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Here is some background on the Nick Berg beheading tape...



Background on Nick Berg

1] Berg had connections to al Qaeda terrorists strong enough to be questioned by the FBI.

His email was used by accused terrorist Zacharias Moussaoui.

He reportedly gave his email to an affiliate of Moussaoui's while on a bus ride in Oklahoma. During this period he was arrested several times for vagrancy on his college campus where he was apparently homeless.



2] The United States and the Iraqi police detained Berg for 13 days, not releasing him until his father filed suit.

He was detained as a suspected Israeli spy.

The US now denies it had anything to do with the detention despite correspondence to the contrary. The Iraqi police also deny any involvement in his detention. They are playing hot potato with it.



3] When Berg was detained he, a Jew, had a copy of the Koran and an anti-semetic book entitled 'The Jewish Problem'.

That is just strange.

Some have speculated the Koran may have been to help him travel in an Islamic nation, but if Berg took such preparations why didn't he have the Israeli stamp in his passport put in a temporary add in page; This would be normal for someone traveling to both Israel and a Muslim nation since both have problems with the visa stamps of the other.



4] Nick Berg's dad and Berg's tower company appear on a Free Republic 'enemies' list. The list isn't too long. I'm not on it under any alias I've used.




5] Nick Berg's tower company is not registered in his home state of Pennsylvania.

While not a legal requirement, state officials report it would be nearly impossible to do business without registering.




6] One of the towers Berg worked on, the biggest and most damaged one, was next to the prison.



7] No one can account for Berg's whereabouts from between April 10th (when his father believes he was killed) and the day his body was found.

He looks very clean and well fed to have been held prisoner by savages for over a month.



8] The US has not stated how his body was identified. It didn't have a head. It should have taken some time to ID.

Reports have stated that 'his headless body was found ..." His body was identified and his parents notified before the video aired.



9] Berg's body, though he was a civilian, was flown by the military to Dover Air Force Base.

According to Department of State Publication 10391, Bureau of Consular Affairs, Revised September 1996, "The U.S. Government cannot pay to have your body buried overseas or returned to the United States."

This is a publication intended for Americans living / working abroad as Berg was. His parents requested to be there when it arrived but were denied.




Berg was dead when beheaded, execution faked


10] No blood spurts from his neck as he is supposed to be dying. The amount of blood on the floor is much smaller than it should have been.

He should have died from bleeding out and this would have resulted in a couple of liters of blood spurting from his neck.

According to medical experts he should have died from bleeding out. Even if his spine was severed quickly he should have continued to bleed until his heart ran out of blood; this was the reason for having straw under the guillotines during the French revolution.

These heads would also remain animated for some time.

To see what an expert surgeon has said about the lack of blood click here. - [link to www.atimes.com]


Another doctor, a surgeon and forensic expert has commented here. - [link to aztlan.net]




11] No blood gets on the hand of 'Zarqawi' even though it was in front of Berg's neck when he should have been bleeding out. Medical experts have commented that blood should have spurted several feet and gotten all over the nearby men.



12] Berg doesn't struggle or even flinch when his head is sawed off with a western style military knife.

Any movements can be explained by the way his captors are moving him. Observe that they tension in the direction of the motion, not the opposite direction as if they were holding him still.



13] The body makes no death throws. None. Nada. Most animals, when they die, convulse.



14] Almost nothing dripped from the recently severed head. The face seems to be stiff and there seems to be makeup on it. Rigamortis appears to have set in.



15] Berg continues to 'scream' after his windpipe has been cut through.




The Nick Berg Video has many problems


16] The whole time line is completely confused. There are many inconsistencies in the time line. The most obvious is that he was 'found Monday over the weekend'.



17] Between Berg being knocked to the floor and then hacked up, the video cuts for no reason. Any amount of time could have elapsed here.


18] Some people believe this is a two camera shoot. I don't think so since the time code font and location, as well as the color balance, seem the same.

If they are two different cameras I think they are the same model, which would be odd. Two cameras would mean a higher level of editing sophistication and that makes me really wonder why the editor would choose not to synch up the sound, etc.



19] The website to which the video was released was down within 90 minutes. All major news organizations supposedly learned of this video and obtained copies within that time. Al Jazeera was unable to access the website 90 minutes after the release.



20] The speaker fumbles the transcript several times and goes back to the same page several times. It appeared he was having trouble reading his own statement. He found five pages of a two sides two page statement to read. There is no matching pause for turning the pages.



21] The speaker is reading from left to right. Arabic (except numbers) is read from right to left.


22] The time codes jump around in way not explainable solely by a two camera set up.


23] Some people have suggested that the audio is just out of time synch. If this is the case then it is out of time synch by substainly different amount at different locations, including an audio cut out of 5 seconds. An analysis of the video can be found at liberty forums.



24] During the hacking up the video camera zooms in indistinctly just when you would expect the filmer to be trying for the most horrid details. If this was a two camera filming, why wasn't the other footage used?



25] The guy hacking off the head has a black hood, there is a very subtle cut at the end (after Thy Will Be Done) and another guy switches places, the tall one with the white mask and black hands. The time code jumps over a minute.
The men in the video weren't Arab 'al-Qaeda Terrorists'



26] 'Zarqawi' is wearing a large gold ring. Islam reportedly forbids men to wear gold jewelry. Even if he didn't care he'd have to know the Arab world would consider him a fraud.



27] The rifle is a Galil variant. This is an Israeli rifle and is considered to be unreliable. Arab militants wouldn't use them. The guns are all either Galils or Mac's.



28] Zarqawi is thought to be dead and is known to have an artificial leg. Clearly the man hacking off the head didn't. The CIA has previously reported both of these facts and has made no acknowledgement of, or explanation for, changing their minds.



29] Zarqawi is known to have a tattoo on the back of his left hand of three green dots. The man hacking off the head didn't have a tattoo on his hand.



30] All the men had nice WHITE hands. Except in the last 20-30 seconds when the face appears to have been digitally lightened, the hands are as white or whiter than Berg's skin. Arab terrorists don't have white hands. UPDATE, the last man has black hands, this is the very tall one who swaps in at the end to hold up the head.



31] All of the men had identical, nice, clean clothing. It looked new. This is unlikely for rogue combatants in a war zone. It is likely if someone needed some 'terrorist' clothing for a video.



32] Western sports style white shoes are very uncommon in Arab nations. I didn't notice this but it was pointed out by a friend who lived in the Mid east. I looked at the current National Geographic on Iraq and could not find one pair of tennis shoes.



33] If Zarqawi was in the video, why didn't he show his face? It is known to the US already. It would have established the video's authenticity. It would have inspired fear. So why's it covered?



34] The real Zarqawi speaks with a Jordanian accent. According to a CNN mid-eastern expert who is a fluent translator, this 'Zarwaqi' did not speak with a Jordanian accent. She dismissed the possibility of it being him out of hand. The CIA seems to be ignoring this and is virtually certain that the voices match. Why is the CIA so blatantly lying?



35] The 'militants' stood with a Western posture. When they moved in, their movements were rehearsed. Each knew where he was going when the action happened as if it were pre-planned.



36] Three of the 'Arab militants' brought their left hands to their faces during the video. The left hand is unclean in Arabic nations. It is used to wipe one's ass. The left hand is taboo. An Arab wouldn't eat with it or offer it to someone, they are unlikely to touch their eyes with it, it is unclean.



37] Some people have said the men were only adjusting their scarves. If this is so, why aren't they used to wearing such clothing?


38] An Islamic extremist would know the proper way to behead someone. It is the chosen form of execution in Saudi Arabia. It is accomplished with one clean sword stroke to the neck. The person sawing off the head obviously had a great deal of difficulty doing so, owing to the poor choice of blade and technique.


39] The registrant for the 'al Qaeda' website in Malaysia at which the video was originally released is Arab Press House in London, UK. Published at this address are ASHARQ AL-AWSAT, 'The Leading Daily Arab International Newspaper' with a circulation of around a Quarter-Million, and several Arab news magazines. This is a news service, not 'al Qaeda'.


40] Except for the individual reading the prepared statement, the only words said by the other 'terrorists' were "Allah Akbar" over and over. The speech was somewhat slurred. The accent differs significantly from the reader. An Arabic language expert has stated that the other individuals were likely not native speakers of Arabic.


41] This video came out just when it would help the Bush regime the most. Fucktards everywhere are now using it to justify widespread US war crimes. Hardly the sort of reaction Islamic militants would desire, but obviously quite predictable.


42] Berg is wearing an orange uniform identical to those used by the US for detainees.


43] The walls and baseboards are identical to the Abu Ghraib prison. The room size is institutional in size.



44] Berg is shown in a chair identical to those in the prison. These chairs are not extremely rare, but the odds of both chairs being identical is slim.


45] At 13:45:58 an individual with white skin, a military outfit, and a military hat identical to one worn by a guard at Abu Ghraib passes quickly through the lower right of the frame.

This person's side re-enters several times. At 13:46:26 their left ear and hat is clearly visible in the lower right of the frame for a second.

They have a pen in their left pocket where it would be impossible to reach with their right hand. Left handed individuals are taboo in Islamic cultures, you can not be a left-handed Muslim Arab, you can not write with your left hand. For more a complete analysis of this scene click here.



46] The video never mentions the word 'Al Qaeda', it uses the word al qaed. These are two different words, one is a name and means 'The Base'. The other is not a name and translates as 'one who sits by and does nothing'. This translation is from the CNN arab language expert. She reports that any fluent speaker of Arabic would notice this difference.



47] The speaker in the tape didn't seem to know the correct arabic date and instead stated a day several days after the video was released.



48] Near the end of the video, after the chanting stops, a Western voice says "Thy Will be Done", it then repeats itself and the video instantly cuts. Hear it at Breakfornews.coms


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