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Isn't the mRNA used up and gone days after Vaxed. Isn't the produced spike protein around only days or weeks? Only the antibodies last.

 
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Isn't the mRNA used up and gone days after Vaxed. Isn't the produced spike protein around only days or weeks? Only the antibodies last.
Thinking this is accurate. Please advise.
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Re: Isn't the mRNA used up and gone days after Vaxed. Isn't the produced spike protein around only days or weeks? Only the antibodies last.
From what I read on the Moderna website, what they call a vaccine forces the body to produce spike proteins and flood them into the body. Supposedly they say that each cell will produce roughly from 1,000 to 100,000 spike proteins before a switch turns it off. I could not find out how many lipid bubbles of the mRNA strand are in each dose, but one might presume there are millions.

Basically it is anyone's guess how many spike proteins will be flooded into each person that takes the shot.

[link to www.salk.edu (secure)]

The Salk institute has a bit to say about how spike protein affects the human body.

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Re: Isn't the mRNA used up and gone days after Vaxed. Isn't the produced spike protein around only days or weeks? Only the antibodies last.
From what I read on the Moderna website, what they call a vaccine forces the body to produce spike proteins and flood them into the body. Supposedly they say that each cell will produce roughly from 1,000 to 100,000 spike proteins before a switch turns it off. I could not find out how many lipid bubbles of the mRNA strand are in each dose, but one might presume there are millions.

Basically it is anyone's guess how many spike proteins will be flooded into each person that takes the shot.

[link to www.salk.edu (secure)]

The Salk institute has a bit to say about how spike protein affects the human body.
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Thanks for this. Perhaps the lipid coated mRNA has a time release coating as well to last over an extended time period. Wonder if the produced "spike protien" can be killed/denatured in some way, maybe an induced fever via sauna/etc.
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Re: Isn't the mRNA used up and gone days after Vaxed. Isn't the produced spike protein around only days or weeks? Only the antibodies last.
only using common sense and no real knowledge here
the mRNA gets into the cells, tells them what to do. When the mRNA dissipates, that's that, but the cells are doing their thing now, which is a whole 'nother thing. I don't know if they stop doing it, except when they die.


this says 48 hours
[link to medium.com (secure)]

this says we don't know
[link to abyssum.org (secure)]

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Re: Isn't the mRNA used up and gone days after Vaxed. Isn't the produced spike protein around only days or weeks? Only the antibodies last.
only using common sense and no real knowledge here
the mRNA gets into the cells, tells them what to do. When the mRNA dissipates, that's that, but the cells are doing their thing now, which is a whole 'nother thing. I don't know if they stop doing it, except when they die.


this says 48 hours
[link to medium.com (secure)]

this says we don't know
[link to abyssum.org (secure)]
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Thanks.for these good links. Sounds like the mRNA instructs cells to start making the spike protein and it isn't known if that production ever stops. The mRNA seem to not last long but their objective is complete so it doesn't matter.
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Re: Isn't the mRNA used up and gone days after Vaxed. Isn't the produced spike protein around only days or weeks? Only the antibodies last.
Thinking this is accurate. Please advise.
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No. The mRNA is synthetic not natural. Therefore, it can bypass the natural dnases and rnases that would otherwise break it down. It lingers in the body for much longer than your average mRNA.
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Re: Isn't the mRNA used up and gone days after Vaxed. Isn't the produced spike protein around only days or weeks? Only the antibodies last.
It breaks down fast at 98 degrees. :)
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Re: Isn't the mRNA used up and gone days after Vaxed. Isn't the produced spike protein around only days or weeks? Only the antibodies last.
If you don't understand the vaccine why take it??
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Re: Isn't the mRNA used up and gone days after Vaxed. Isn't the produced spike protein around only days or weeks? Only the antibodies last.
If you don't understand the vaccine why take it??
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Not taking it, just attempting to comprehend it's mechanics.
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Re: Isn't the mRNA used up and gone days after Vaxed. Isn't the produced spike protein around only days or weeks? Only the antibodies last.
We want to know when it is safe to be around loved ones again who are vaxxed as well as we still have to go into grocery stores etc and want to feel somewhat safe ...hence why we are trying to figure this out!
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Re: Isn't the mRNA used up and gone days after Vaxed. Isn't the produced spike protein around only days or weeks? Only the antibodies last.
The mRNA fragments are shuttled to the nucleus to perform epi-genetic functions?, integrate with host cell DNA? I do not think anyone knows the final fate of the fragments, or the final effects of the Spike Protein? It might initiate a autoimmune reaction to normal cells that have the Spike protein, causing platelet agglutination, that is strokes,and blood clots in 1 - 1.5 % of the jab recipients.
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Re: Isn't the mRNA used up and gone days after Vaxed. Isn't the produced spike protein around only days or weeks? Only the antibodies last.
We want to know when it is safe to be around loved ones again who are vaxxed as well as we still have to go into grocery stores etc and want to feel somewhat safe ...hence why we are trying to figure this out!
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Yeah anyone not living alone is probably surrounded by vaxxed individuals now
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Re: Isn't the mRNA used up and gone days after Vaxed. Isn't the produced spike protein around only days or weeks? Only the antibodies last.
This Dr/professor says that your body will make billions or even trillions (i forget exactly) of these spike proteins for a very long time if not forever and it will challenge your immune system.

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Re: Isn't the mRNA used up and gone days after Vaxed. Isn't the produced spike protein around only days or weeks? Only the antibodies last.
We want to know when it is safe to be around loved ones again who are vaxxed as well as we still have to go into grocery stores etc and want to feel somewhat safe ...hence why we are trying to figure this out!
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Yeah anyone not living alone is probably surrounded by vaxxed individuals now
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Which means they are DOOMED.

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