Could it be that they're using the vaccines to single-out us non-conformists?

I think your take is completely balanced and well thought out. I do not think you are paranoid. Your inner voice has spoken and you put that into words easily. This hive mind thing from people that I used to think were very intelligent has me baffled as well. Also, it's freaky how much money and media seem to be selling this "vaccine." Also, this thing is, at best, a LEAKY vaccine. I'm listening to my inner voice on this...seems like you are too.

Just to add to my previous post...the thread title. It would seem like even a conformist would be doing some deep thinking about putting something emergency approved that there is no antidote for into their bodies.

Think I double posted, dangit.

Anyway, I find my approach pretty balanced as well. Thank you for some "stranger" confidence in that and the strangeness of this hive mind phenomenon! Hell! No one really knew what was going-on for a while. The GLP folks were both doing research and speculating (I can appreciate both).

I'm from an engineering background and my husband is in computer science. Most of the closest of our families are medical field though (lots of doctors and nurses... LOTS). They thought I was overreacting at the beginning, then got steamrolled.

Recently we were offered the vaccine from an Aunt who was running around town trying not to "waste" doses. I simply said "since we don't have children yet, we'll pass." Of all the things she's argued with me all through the pandemic, her response was just "Okay, understood." She's been going all over the place giving vaccines to the elderly. This is absolutely not her normal job. She even had her children and their significant others take the vaccine since at first healthcare workers were so excited their immediate families would also be first in line to receive it.

My younger sister is an RN as well. She worked with COVID patients in the earlier days (and still does when seldom they come into her unit), but she also doesn't have children yet. She won't advocate for her or any family/friends to get any vaccine *yet*...on her non-ICU shifts, she's one of the hospital's nursing administrators over all of nursing.

I'm no medical expert. I've been surrounded by medical people my whole life and worked in hospitals on the engineering front. I won't suggest the vaccine to anyone of child bearing years and most of the medical professionals I know won't either. Take that how you will and do your due-diligence/independent research.

I don't know what it means for everyone else. I remain dubious of the data (or lack there-of) presented thus-far.

Either way, I hope we all get out of this.

Agreed. I've said this to whomever I can. EUA is not something even the best medical pros consider often enough I've noticed recently. Too much trust in some cases. That's not what any STEM profession is taught during their education, but here we are.

I think the anti vax people are the target

The mind control of what i see is tons of people all of a sudden antivax when its a lab created virus?

Dont like seeing that

Get the vax

Well... Why should ANYONE be *the target*?

Plenty of people being "antivax" about this specific vaccination have had many. Those many we had went through years and tons of trials, so please consider that in your personal research.

A question for you: you say "get the vax"... Which one did you get?

I ask because I find it troubling that so many people I know personally who HAVE been vaccinated don't even know which one they got.

Thanks for sharing about the medical professional's (the ones you know) stance about the child bearing years. If there is one thing that really haunts me about this shot...it is this: I imagine these spiked things coursing through my body and my poor immune system working day and night to clean up the debris that was made BY me because the shot said to do it. If nothing else happened, it seems like a person would eventually just walk around exhausted all the time. Like the feeling you get when you are trying to fight a cold. Only all the time. I have yet to understand when this command to make the spikes "shuts off." I hope we get out of this too.

No, I don't think the intent is to single out us non-conformists.

The goal of the elites is to:

1. Seize all the power and wealth on the planet

2. Reduce the surplus population to save THEIR resources from being squandered on billions of peons they have no use for

The don't care about you and me whatsoever, as long as they can achieve the goals above.

Think I double posted, dangit.

Anyway, I find my approach pretty balanced as well. Thank you for some "stranger" confidence in that and the strangeness of this hive mind phenomenon! Hell! No one really knew what was going-on for a while. The GLP folks were both doing research and speculating (I can appreciate both).

I'm from an engineering background and my husband is in computer science. Most of the closest of our families are medical field though (lots of doctors and nurses... LOTS). They thought I was overreacting at the beginning, then got steamrolled.

Recently we were offered the vaccine from an Aunt who was running around town trying not to "waste" doses. I simply said "since we don't have children yet, we'll pass." Of all the things she's argued with me all through the pandemic, her response was just "Okay, understood." She's been going all over the place giving vaccines to the elderly. This is absolutely not her normal job. She even had her children and their significant others take the vaccine since at first healthcare workers were so excited their immediate families would also be first in line to receive it.

My younger sister is an RN as well. She worked with COVID patients in the earlier days (and still does when seldom they come into her unit), but she also doesn't have children yet. She won't advocate for her or any family/friends to get any vaccine *yet*...on her non-ICU shifts, she's one of the hospital's nursing administrators over all of nursing.

I'm no medical expert. I've been surrounded by medical people my whole life and worked in hospitals on the engineering front. I won't suggest the vaccine to anyone of child bearing years and most of the medical professionals I know won't either. Take that how you will and do your due-diligence/independent research.

I don't know what it means for everyone else. I remain dubious of the data (or lack there-of) presented thus-far.

Either way, I hope we all get out of this.


Thanks for sharing about the medical professional's (the ones you know) stance about the child bearing years. If there is one thing that really haunts me about this shot...it is this: I imagine these spiked things coursing through my body and my poor immune system working day and night to clean up the debris that was made BY me because the shot said to do it. If nothing else happened, it seems like a person would eventually just walk around exhausted all the time. Like the feeling you get when you are trying to fight a cold. Only all the time. I have yet to understand when this command to make the spikes "shuts off." I hope we get out of this too.


Yes. Basically, what you are saying is a bigger concern for a lot of the population. Our immune systems do so much work we're not aware-of. You never know when you need it or REALLY need it!!!

All the time take plenty of immune-boosting vitamins if you don't get enough from food consumption or environmental exposure (mostly pointing to vitD from sun exposure).

I certainly don't understand what all the spikes do, and it doesn't seem like our best and brightest do yet either.

For anyone who has caught any of it, keep taking care of yourselves--vitamin-rich foods, extra vitamins, exercise outdoors and sunlight when you can, bone broth, anything fortifying. Pretty much all the things you'd tell a growing person are your friends.

I doubt highly this is TEOTWAWKI. We can do things to make sure plenty of us get through it.

I get what you're saying, but...

1) No one could ever seize all our wealth...depends on what you consider wealth, I suppose. Also, what is power anyway? I don't believe someone could control everyone unless it was God on high. No one, no army can do that... Certainly not quickly at all.

I live in GA and good luck with someone coming in and saying they'll take everything. Maybe they can, but it will take a while. Besides us, I mean... Think about Texas! Again, good luck.

2) Makes more sense, but also goes back to #1.

I don't know who the "peons" are in the state of our world. I hope not me, but I don't want anyone else to be either.

At the same time, I do believe people have reproduced too much in some areas in that they can't take care of eachother with the resources at-hand. NO ONE wants to see a starving child. I don't care where you live or your lifestyle.

For example, in the US we throw away WAY too much food. There's no reason anyone should be hungry here. I don't have solutions in-mind to help people in other countries (aside maybe Canada or Mexico) though, because the cost to move excess food around the world is so great.

Well, I said these are the goals of the elites, I didn't say they are sane or achievable goals...

On the contrary, trying to own the planet and control everyone on it is of course utterly insane and inherently impossible. But these clowns are going for it anyway!


BTW, the cost of moving food around isn't half as much of a hindrance as you think, and many parts of the world are completely dependent on food imports these days. For instance, Africa may have the most productive arable land on the planet, but Africans fail to make proper use of it, so 75 % of their food must be imported. Most of it comes from the US, which is the biggest exporter.

Its a multi thing.

But its main purpose is to control.

Those that get it will always be getting updates, as it will ruin your immune system, which was unique to you.

People are guessing what this is about, but its only a second stage of whats coming.

America releasing covid19 bio weapon, was first, then vaccine.

Damned if you do, damned if you do not.

Its your choice, and your life.

Nah. God has allowed all this because the world, in many places, has shunned and mocked God.

But all the NWO stories are fun to read.

If you think it’s bad now, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

Life on planet earth is going to get a lot worse. Look around.....we deserve what’s happening. Sinful behavior and people who refuse to acknowledge their Divine Creator.