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When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.

 
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When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.
People will look at the materialistic model the same way we now look at the geocentric and flat earth models: religious dogma from the dark ages trying to resist the progress of science and restrict what people are allowed to think. What they are calling "science" today is religious dogma, what they are currently calling "esotheric" is the beginning of real science.

We will be aware that consciousness is the driving force behind all matter and not the other way around.

We will not need silly constructs like dark matter and dark energy to explain phenomena we don't currently understand (or refuse to understand), we will instead have a simple elegant model that unifies quantum theory, relativity, gravity and consciousness.

We will know what creates disease and how to cure them.

This will be the next great quantum leap in science, it is long overdue. We are observing the last desperate effort of the old dying dogma.

Nobody will need to be vaxxed ever again, or be exposed to any other cruel "medical" practices from the old ages.

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Re: When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.
nope
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Re: When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.
such brainwashed indoctrinated death cultists

useless repeaters
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Re: When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.
Bump for truth!
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Re: When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.
People will look at the materialistic model the same way we now look at the geocentric and flat earth models: religious dogma from the dark ages trying to resist the progress of science and restrict what people are allowed to think. What they are calling "science" today is religious dogma, what they are currently calling "esotheric" is the beginning of real science.

We will be aware that consciousness is the driving force behind all matter and not the other way around.

We will not need silly constructs like dark matter and dark energy to explain phenomena we don't currently understand (or refuse to understand), we will instead have a simple elegant model that unifies quantum theory, relativity, gravity and consciousness.

We will know what creates disease and how to cure them.

This will be the next great quantum leap in science, it is long overdue. We are observing the last desperate effort of the old dying dogma.

Nobody will need to be vaxxed ever again, or be exposed to any other cruel "medical" practices from the old ages.
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hesright
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Re: When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.
Wrong.

The unified theory will do away with the quantum mysticism and re-instate determinism.

The universe is like a clockwork. There is no free will.
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Re: When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.
we will instead have a simple elegant model that unifies quantum theory, relativity, gravity and consciousness.
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Searching for any model of reality is oxymoron in itself.

Any theory will always remain just imagination. Reality has been there before humans and will be after them without your scientific mind games.
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Re: When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.
we will instead have a simple elegant model that unifies quantum theory, relativity, gravity and consciousness.
 Quoting: Bernd


Searching for any model of reality is oxymoron in itself.

Any theory will always remain just imagination. Reality has been there before humans and will be after them without your scientific mind games.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75616839


Sure. Theories and models should NOT be confused with reality.

Having said that, the theories and models are our BEST APPROXIMATION OF REALITY.
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Re: When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.
we will instead have a simple elegant model that unifies quantum theory, relativity, gravity and consciousness.
 Quoting: Bernd


Searching for any model of reality is oxymoron in itself.

Any theory will always remain just imagination. Reality has been there before humans and will be after them without your scientific mind games.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75616839


Sure. Theories and models should NOT be confused with reality.

Having said that, the theories and models are our BEST APPROXIMATION OF REALITY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80249378


Nope. It meditation is your only hope. You have to get rid of all imagination to find back to Reality.
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Re: When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.
we will instead have a simple elegant model that unifies quantum theory, relativity, gravity and consciousness.
 Quoting: Bernd


Searching for any model of reality is oxymoron in itself.

Any theory will always remain just imagination. Reality has been there before humans and will be after them without your scientific mind games.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75616839


Sure. Theories and models should NOT be confused with reality.

Having said that, the theories and models are our BEST APPROXIMATION OF REALITY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80249378


Nope. *Meditation is your only hope. You have to get rid of all imagination to find back to Reality.
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*typpo fixed
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Re: When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.
we will instead have a simple elegant model that unifies quantum theory, relativity, gravity and consciousness.
 Quoting: Bernd


Searching for any model of reality is oxymoron in itself.

Any theory will always remain just imagination. Reality has been there before humans and will be after them without your scientific mind games.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75616839


Sure. Theories and models should NOT be confused with reality.

Having said that, the theories and models are our BEST APPROXIMATION OF REALITY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80249378


Nope. It meditation is your only hope. You have to get rid of all imagination to find back to Reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75616839


How do you verify the results?
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Re: When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.
Wrong.

The unified theory will do away with the quantum mysticism and re-instate determinism.

The universe is like a clockwork. There is no free will.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75370086


I agree with the red.
"A wise man listens to the message and uses his logic and discernment to process it, a fool negates the message by prejudging the messenger."

"He whose centre is everywhere and whose circumference is nowhere."
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Re: When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.
Wrong.

The unified theory will do away with the quantum mysticism and re-instate determinism.

The universe is like a clockwork. There is no free will.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75370086


I agree with the red.
 Quoting: LTHN.


This is the cardinal misunderstanding. It would imply that everything is meaningless, none of our lifes had any purpose. Nothing had any purpose.

And fortunately this horrifying world view has been proven wrong already.
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Re: When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.
Wrong.

The unified theory will do away with the quantum mysticism and re-instate determinism.

The universe is like a clockwork. There is no free will.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75370086


I agree with the red.
 Quoting: LTHN.


This is the cardinal misunderstanding. It would imply that everything is meaningless, none of our lifes had any purpose. Nothing had any purpose.

And fortunately this horrifying world view has been proven wrong already.
 Quoting: Bernd


I think the universe is like a giant extremely intricate clock mechanism, to me that doesn’t imply we don’t have free will, it simply means that there is a massive clock like mechanism that we function within.
"A wise man listens to the message and uses his logic and discernment to process it, a fool negates the message by prejudging the messenger."

"He whose centre is everywhere and whose circumference is nowhere."
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Re: When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.
bump

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Re: When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.
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Re: When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.
 Quoting: New Heart


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"A wise man listens to the message and uses his logic and discernment to process it, a fool negates the message by prejudging the messenger."

"He whose centre is everywhere and whose circumference is nowhere."
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Re: When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.
People will look at the materialistic model the same way we now look at the geocentric and flat earth models: religious dogma from the dark ages trying to resist the progress of science and restrict what people are allowed to think. What they are calling "science" today is religious dogma, what they are currently calling "esotheric" is the beginning of real science.

We will be aware that consciousness is the driving force behind all matter and not the other way around.

We will not need silly constructs like dark matter and dark energy to explain phenomena we don't currently understand (or refuse to understand), we will instead have a simple elegant model that unifies quantum theory, relativity, gravity and consciousness.

We will know what creates disease and how to cure them.

This will be the next great quantum leap in science, it is long overdue. We are observing the last desperate effort of the old dying dogma.

Nobody will need to be vaxxed ever again, or be exposed to any other cruel "medical" practices from the old ages.
 Quoting: Bernd


people have to give up the force they own. driving cars for being lazy is their choice.
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Re: When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.
People will look at the materialistic model the same way we now look at the geocentric and flat earth models: religious dogma from the dark ages trying to resist the progress of science and restrict what people are allowed to think. What they are calling "science" today is religious dogma, what they are currently calling "esotheric" is the beginning of real science.

We will be aware that consciousness is the driving force behind all matter and not the other way around.

We will not need silly constructs like dark matter and dark energy to explain phenomena we don't currently understand (or refuse to understand), we will instead have a simple elegant model that unifies quantum theory, relativity, gravity and consciousness.

We will know what creates disease and how to cure them.

This will be the next great quantum leap in science, it is long overdue. We are observing the last desperate effort of the old dying dogma.

Nobody will need to be vaxxed ever again, or be exposed to any other cruel "medical" practices from the old ages.
 Quoting: Bernd


people have to give up the force they own. driving cars for being lazy is their choice.
 Quoting: N 80412512


tho they will be forced to drop the car driving or they won't survive the upcoming virus
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Re: When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.
Wrong.

The unified theory will do away with the quantum mysticism and re-instate determinism.

The universe is like a clockwork. There is no free will.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75370086


I agree with the red.
 Quoting: LTHN.


This is the cardinal misunderstanding. It would imply that everything is meaningless, none of our lifes had any purpose. Nothing had any purpose.

And fortunately this horrifying world view has been proven wrong already.
 Quoting: Bernd


I think the universe is like a giant extremely intricate clock mechanism, to me that doesn’t imply we don’t have free will, it simply means that there is a massive clock like mechanism that we function within.
 Quoting: LTHN.


If there is free will then it MUST exist outside of this clockwork, otherwise it would not be free. And it must be able to influence the clockwork. The brain would then be some kind of remote control receiver for this flesh robot and your free will would connect to it and control it.

But this would contradict the very core of the currently accepted materialistic view which proclaims that the brain is just a complicated machine and creates the illusion of consciousness and the illusion of free will.

I have come to the conclusion that the materialistic view is wrong. Not the matter creates the mind, the mind creates the matter! There are too many hints and evidences into this direction, too many to ignore them and there are ZERO proofs and even many contradictions for the materialistic view. The materialistic view is just a postulate, based on exactly nothing, and it is beginning to crumble.

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I agree with the red.
 Quoting: LTHN.


This is the cardinal misunderstanding. It would imply that everything is meaningless, none of our lifes had any purpose. Nothing had any purpose.

And fortunately this horrifying world view has been proven wrong already.
 Quoting: Bernd


I think the universe is like a giant extremely intricate clock mechanism, to me that doesn’t imply we don’t have free will, it simply means that there is a massive clock like mechanism that we function within.
 Quoting: LTHN.


If there is free will then it MUST exist outside of this clockwork, otherwise it would not be free. And it must be able to influence the clockwork. The brain would then be some kind of remote control receiver for this flesh robot and your free will would connect to it and control it.

But this would contradict the very core of the currently accepted materialistic view which proclaims that the brain is just a complicated machine and creates the illusion of consciousness and the illusion of free will.

I have come to the conclusion that the materialistic view is wrong. Not the matter creates the mind, the mind creates the matter! There are too many hints and evidences into this direction, too many to ignore them and there are ZERO proofs and even many contradictions for the materialistic view. The materialistic view is just a postulate, based on exactly nothing, and it is beginning to crumble.
 Quoting: Bernd



they don't have the proper explanation of the real world. that's why they got fixed on material world of having it
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Re: When this is all over the mechanistic world view will be done.
Bump for the newly awakened time zones across the pond.
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Searching for any model of reality is oxymoron in itself.

Any theory will always remain just imagination. Reality has been there before humans and will be after them without your scientific mind games.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75616839


Sure. Theories and models should NOT be confused with reality.

Having said that, the theories and models are our BEST APPROXIMATION OF REALITY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80249378


Nope. It meditation is your only hope. You have to get rid of all imagination to find back to Reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75616839


How do you verify the results?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80249378


Easily. You create no conflict, oxymoron or pollution of already existing world.





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