Pope Francis has just made things extremely difficult for Traditional Catholics!

God is WITHIN us all.

Not outside, or somehow distant, from us.

Pretty good grasp of the situation in a very short amount of time!

So the Commie Anti-Christ is making more restrictions. I left that church years ago. I also had a dream when I was a teenager (I'm hella old now), about The Vatican and basilica getting destroyed by an atomic bomb. Very vivid dream.

Thank you and very true. But can you please try to stay on topic? THIS thread is discussing the Pope's reinstating the Latín Mass restrictions.

You can always start a thread of your own.

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There are endtime prophecies concerning an Antipope and the "Ape of the Church."

Ape = mimic

Impostor

Thanks.

That being the case, it sounds like, unless Francis changes his mind, or a Latin Mass-supporting successor is elected next, their only real option is to go underground which seems like what they did between Vatican II and Benedict. Isn't disobedience to Rome considered sinful, though? Living in unrepentant sin within the church would, as far as I can tell, be just as bad as becoming Protestant in the eyes of the RCC.

I firmly believe that the 1570 missal was issued with this edict because Pope Pius suspected that the Jesuits would try to change it.

Even in those, Loyola's military order was being seen as a mistake by many.

Of course, for a long while the Society of Jesus was disbanded for it's utterly ruthless and seditious tactics.

I hold the Society of Jesus to be the most dangerous order on this earth. Bar none.

And now the wolves sit squarely in Peter's seat.

I'll take Eucharist with you, and even worship with the liturgy, but I'm not going anywhere near being a Romanist. Rome needs a flamethrower taken to it.

It means he's the fake Pope like Biden is the fake POTUS and he's a Communist Piece of Shit. Stop following this asshole!

Have some independence!!!! If you folks want to say the Mass in Latin, SAY THE MASS IN LATIN. Fuck Francis - he's not the real Pope ANYWAY!

The Sedevecantists do not see themselves as sinful bc they do not recognize the Pope.

But the Church considered them as schismatic for many years, though efforts have been made to change that. One of those efforts has just been today overturned.

I agree that this was foreseen by Pope Pius, the last valid Pope according to the Sedevecantists.

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That is what the Sedevecantists did and may very well be the response of our current Latin Priests.

Why do you follow the teachings of corrupt humans instead of the Spirit of Christ?

Endlessly regurgitating ancient Catholic traditions mean nothing to Him. Anyone can memorize and repeat written traditions, even if their heart is faithless. Faith and love is everything. Not everyone can have that faith in their heart which is why it’s so special.

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Why do you interrupt other people's thread with off topic questions?

If I wanted to start a thread to discuss why I am Catholic, the title of this thread would be "Why am I Catholic."

If you had love, you would have better manners and start your own thread.

You would think a bishop of Rome would have no effect on Protestants, but you would be wrong.

Your dirty laundry also happens to be our dirty laundry.

Frank is emboldening the ultra leftist elements without our own apostate Protestant churches.

It is not a good situation all around. And I will continue to pray for the church worldwide that we might hold the unity of the Spirit of Truth and get out of this Babylonian Captivity.

I apologize for coming across as rude. I do have love, but I am under attack by demons and it frequently leads me astray from what I intend to say. I will leave.

I personally struggle with attaining that true genuine faith within my heart…

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This is a condensed version (only 6 minutes) of what went down when Pope Benedict resigned. Mind blowing for those who are unfamiliar.

I thought it was the Latin Ass that was huge.

It is a struggle for us all.

Very good observation!

God bless you and yours, op.


Keep up the good fight.

As a good (Catholic) friend told me a few years back..."We're just gonna have to ride it out."

Gotcha. Yeah, that makes sense. You can't be disobedient to someone you don't recognize as your leader. Duh.

Sorry, I've got a lot of catching up to do one my Roman Catholic Church internal politics.

I think you all need to maybe just get right with the idea that the Roman Catholic Church doesn't have the only path to salvation as Martin Luther, John Calvin, and John Wesley did, and just go full schism.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, as to give his only begotten Son; that whosoever believeth in him, may not perish, but may have life everlasting.

The way I read that, you don't need to be a member of any particular denomination, or any denomination at all, to be saved.

Incidentally, thanks for the thread and the friendly discussion. These threads so often descend into a Catholic vs. Protestant thing and I'm not interested in re-fighting the 30 Years War, or starting any Troubles, or nailing any Theses to any doors, but there's a Way out of this that doesn't involve reluctantly living under the tyranny of a false pope, and it's Jesus Christ, wherever you spend your time on Sunday mornings.

Last Edited by Revbo™ on 07/16/2021 03:38 PM

Thank you, and you and yours as well.

And yep, been riding it out for a hot minute now. Lol

Thank you. I greatly appreciate your studied questions!

The protestant/catholic differance is more than just about the papacy. Shopping around for a church that suits "me" is not my goal. Its not a buffet! Lol I try to follow the teaching of Christ according to Scripture and Tradition. Especially His teaching on the Eucharist which is not recognized fully in any protestant church.

John 6:56-58

54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.


I too, am also VERY glad that we've managed to get to three pages w/o the descent into the usual chaos. Lol

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While Frank is busying himself with intrigues and leading the church into communism and pluralism as quickly as humanly possible, the real Bishop is still reclining back at the Eucharist table telling the world to love each other.

Frank, you had one job. You're fired.

John 13

34A new commandment I give to you, That you love each other. As I loved you, so also love one another. 35By this will all men know that you are my disciples, if ye have love one for another.

Why do you need a Pope, when you know the truth?

God is within us all.

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I get it. I'm not saying become Baptist or Pentecostal. I'm saying you and your fellow semi-schismatics start your own Sedevacantist Catholic Church and do communion (and everything else) in a way that suits you according to your understanding of Scripture. Good Christians can differ on some things and still be Christian. At least that's the way I do Christianity. I believe all my Lutheran, Catholic, Baptist, Presbyterian, Russian Orthodox, etc. brothers and sisters in Christ are just as saved by the Grace of our Lord and Savior as am I. I can tell you're suffering under the current leadership of your Church and you shouldn't have to. It's similar to the reason we left the United Methodist Church a few years ago, but came back when we heard there was a return to Methodist Orthodoxy coming.

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