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Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :)

 
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doom is over, shut it down indeed.
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Please don't feel obligated to check in on this thread.

If you add OP to your ignore list, you won't even see the thread anymore!

I suggest you do that, as you seem a bit angry about the thread. Just get it out of your life, k?
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Part of today's official gov reporting from today's PEVOLCA meeting, translated:

The scientific committee has also ruled on the news that appeared in the media about a possible major collapse of the west flank of Cumbre Vieja and consequent formation of a mega tsunami, highlighting that there is no data to support this hypothesis and that it lacks any basis. proven scientific.

The Scientific Committee is coordinated by the General Directorate of Security and Emergencies of the Government of the Canary Islands and is made up of representatives of the National Geographic Institute (IGN), Higher Council for Scientific Research (CSIC); The Canary Islands Volcanological Institute (Involcan), the Geological and Mining Institute of Spain (IGME), the State Meteorological Agency (AEMET), the Spanish Institute of Oceanography (IEO), the University of La Laguna and the University of Las Palmas de Gran Canaria.



I call BS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79429843


Notice in the same report they say (translated):


The process continues and may evolve rapidly in the short term. The decrease in seismicity may be temporary and does not necessarily imply a stoppage of volcanic reactivation.

As indicated in the previous bulletin, the occurrence of felt earthquakes of greater intensity is expected. At the same time, the beginning of observable phenomena on the surface cannot be ruled out.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79429843


This is pretty much why it's on my radar. It evolved quickly last week into uplift and shalow earthquakes. There is a yellow level.

This doesn't mean something is imminent, but it's worth observing. It could be months, it could be hours. Nobody knows! I would not sit around hitting the refresh button or you could have a very tired finger.

But, that could change in the blink of an eye too!
 Quoting: LaGata


I got the seismograph to work for me. Now that it's not DOOM levels busy. smh.

Anyway, there is lots of low level noise. Which I understand to be it filling up its tank. I need to find previous days charts to compare to.
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I call BS on the authorities and I am watching this thing daily

It has already hit the news in UK, US, Brazil, Germany, to name a few,

I will be gone way before the sheep hit the highways if and when it blows
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Getting shallow again! 3 quakes in succession, that's new!

1.2 at 1 km depth
1.2 at 2 km depth
1.3 at 1 km depth

[link to www.ign.es]
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Dude sorry. These are weak. This Doom is over. Shut it down!
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I'm so sorry you don't understand what's going on. Let me break it down for you. These small quakes close to the surface are in fact big warning signs. They indicate magma is pushing to the surface. The closer to the surface, the closer to eruption. Combine this with the small landslides and surface elevation it's all bad juju.
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[link to www.ign.es (secure)]

Note that this is a 24 hour graph. Still can't find where to adjust the time scale.

[link to www.ign.es (secure)]

This is from a couple of days ago.


The current one is extremely active. I would prefer OP to do this, but since people are trolling...
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President of the Canary Islands says "if the eruption occurs, we have the mechanism to evacuate more than 2,000 people."

Uh... population on La Palma is 85,000.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79429843


He is very casual in his remarks. I would hope that many of the people on that island would have by evacuated to safety by now.

There is just something very fucky going on with all this?

I'm getting really bad vibes about all the lies, backtracking, confusing statements etc.
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President of the Canary Islands says "if the eruption occurs, we have the mechanism to evacuate more than 2,000 people."

Uh... population on La Palma is 85,000.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79429843


He is very casual in his remarks. I would hope that many of the people on that island would have by evacuated to safety by now.

There is just something very fucky going on with all this?

I'm getting really bad vibes about all the lies, backtracking, confusing statements etc.
 Quoting: simplify


As with any really BIG news story, it’s usually the initial reports and statements that tend to be the most accurate. These are done by untethered journalists and lower-level officials who are simply doing their jobs. It’s when the spotlight hits, and the real ‘players’ get involved is when the ‘messaging’ is applied via an agenda.
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President of the Canary Islands says "if the eruption occurs, we have the mechanism to evacuate more than 2,000 people."

Uh... population on La Palma is 85,000.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79429843


He is very casual in his remarks. I would hope that many of the people on that island would have by evacuated to safety by now.

There is just something very fucky going on with all this?

I'm getting really bad vibes about all the lies, backtracking, confusing statements etc.
 Quoting: simplify



[link to youtu.be (secure)]

Recap:
Activity is slowing down. Deformation is increasing slowly. This still needs to be monitored.

He looks super worried.
Too scary
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GLP sometimes is like your little kid in the back seat just after you start the 6 hour drive to Grandma's:

whiney voice: ARE WE THERE YET?
(5hr 45min to go)

ARE WE THERE YET? (5hr 30min to go)
ARE WE THERE YET? (5hr 20min to go)
ARE WE THERE YET? (5hr 5min to go)
ARE WE THERE YET? (4hr 55min to go)

try to distract kid

ARE WE THERE YET? (4hr 30min to go)
ARE WE THERE YET? (4hr 20min to go)
ARE WE THERE YET? (4hr 10min to go)

so on and so forth for the next 4 hours!!

Most of us have had to deal with that with our kids ... at times GLP is just like those little kids, they are too impatient for the TRIP to be over with and the ARRIVAL to occur.

Give it TIME!!

Mother Nature moves in a time frame of days, weeks, months, and YEARS ... not in a time frame of hours (except at the very end of the journey, once you turn the corner and are finally almost ready to turn into Grandma's driveway)

Even Pinatubo took WEEKS to build up it's head of stream, ditto Mt. St. Helens, ditto Tambora (from the contemporary reports) and Krakatoa (from the contemporary reports).

Give it TIME!

... if it is going to explode so hard that it blows away part of the mountain/island it need to build up a much bigger head of steam (ie: inflation of the ground) imo. Remember ... INFLATION of the volcano indicates internal pressure is building, but it needs FEET - probably many many feet, not just a few centimeters.

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President of the Canary Islands says "if the eruption occurs, we have the mechanism to evacuate more than 2,000 people."

Uh... population on La Palma is 85,000.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79429843


He is very casual in his remarks. I would hope that many of the people on that island would have by evacuated to safety by now.

There is just something very fucky going on with all this?

I'm getting really bad vibes about all the lies, backtracking, confusing statements etc.
 Quoting: simplify


Agreed. Fucky
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President of the Canary Islands says "if the eruption occurs, we have the mechanism to evacuate more than 2,000 people."

Uh... population on La Palma is 85,000.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79429843


He is very casual in his remarks. I would hope that many of the people on that island would have by evacuated to safety by now.

There is just something very fucky going on with all this?

I'm getting really bad vibes about all the lies, backtracking, confusing statements etc.
 Quoting: simplify



[link to youtu.be (secure)]

Recap:
Activity is slowing down. Deformation is increasing slowly. This still needs to be monitored.

He looks super worried.
Too scary
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74567769


Agreed

Every video I have seen of officials being interviewed, and making statements, they look worried. It helps when their masks cover the face, it makes the eye movements and emotions even more noticeable
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Prophetic message for Florida ! Urgent

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Quick summary? Possible?

Thanks....

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President of the Canary Islands says "if the eruption occurs, we have the mechanism to evacuate more than 2,000 people."

Uh... population on La Palma is 85,000.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79429843


He is very casual in his remarks. I would hope that many of the people on that island would have by evacuated to safety by now.

There is just something very fucky going on with all this?

I'm getting really bad vibes about all the lies, backtracking, confusing statements etc.
 Quoting: simplify



[link to youtu.be (secure)]

Recap:
Activity is slowing down. Deformation is increasing slowly. This still needs to be monitored.

He looks super worried.
Too scary
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Def. some serious hand-wringing going on with the guy standing behind him. Worried looks on their faces.
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Breaking: update from local gov

[link to twitter.com (secure)]


Translation

Update of the seismic activity in Cumbre Vieja:

We keep the yellow traffic light.

The Evacuation Plan has been presented to the Pevolca Steering Committee.

Tazacorte joins the municipalities that could be affected.
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120 pages of nothingburger

The burning mountain will be thrown into the sea, but not yet. The timeline is in your Bible, dust it off and read it.
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I just checked the island south of los palma. El hierro.


[link to www.ign.es (secure)]


A lot of the activity has been on the south side, right? Well this island is making a crap ton of noise. Actually most of the chain appears to be noisy.


Normal is dark blue.


Well I just found out, I love digging through earth sound waves.

G'night everyone.
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I just checked the island south of los palma. El hierro.


[link to www.ign.es (secure)]


A lot of the activity has been on the south side, right? Well this island is making a crap ton of noise. Actually most of the chain appears to be noisy.


Normal is dark blue.


Well I just found out, I love digging through earth sound waves.

G'night everyone.
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Very interesting, thank you for the share
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President of the Canary Islands says "if the eruption occurs, we have the mechanism to evacuate more than 2,000 people."

Uh... population on La Palma is 85,000.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79429843


He is very casual in his remarks. I would hope that many of the people on that island would have by evacuated to safety by now.

There is just something very fucky going on with all this?

I'm getting really bad vibes about all the lies, backtracking, confusing statements etc.
 Quoting: simplify



[link to youtu.be (secure)]

Recap:
Activity is slowing down. Deformation is increasing slowly. This still needs to be monitored.

He looks super worried.
Too scary
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74567769


Agreed

Every video I have seen of officials being interviewed, and making statements, they look worried. It helps when their masks cover the face, it makes the eye movements and emotions even more noticeable
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79429843


when it starts he is nervous and if this would be a positive message (in the time when he cannot hold control over emotions..visible..), then he would look stright in your face, that did not happened, perhaps little at the end when he regains control
moral reasoning takes about 250 miliseconds
we make errors in between
perception->relation->behaviour
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Getting closer to the surface...
 Quoting: Economic Prepper


Yes and interestingly they changed the data now to say 1.9 at 11km.
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I'm getting conflicting reports on the depth of this quake.
Simple mistake or cover-up to prevent a panic?
 Quoting: Economic Prepper


Yeah, yesterday I saw two off both sides of the island, in the sea, vanish.
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Link?
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[link to www.nrc.gov (secure)]

This is an assessment done in 2016 by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission regarding tsunami threats to the east cost of the US. This was done post Fukushima to get a true baseline of all the threats.

While multiple threats are addressed, there is a full chapter on Las Palmas. Many studies were done and they acknowledge the previous studies and their mega tsunami predictions. Their new modeling suggests that it would not be as destructive as the initial mega tsunami models concluded. It’s pretty technical, but very informative and worth a read.
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I'd be much more informed if I could read Spanish :(
None of the local updates are in English
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This lull reminds me of a woman going into false labor & everything stops. Then 48hrs later she goes into real labor in the middle of the night & back to the hospital again.
Baby is born some hrs later.

Feels like we are now in the "in-between" phase of the birth of the eruption.

It would great if someone in that area sent up a drone to get some pics of how much uplift is happening?
 Quoting: simplify

Need some trained Frigate birds outfitted with Go Pros to handle the drone killer winds of the Canaries.

Frigate birds have massive narrow wings, a gnarly pointy long heads/beaks, and shrink wrapped looking bodies that remind me of a minime Pteranodon.
I've never seen one closer/lower than 1000 yards, and only in the Canary Islands, though I'm not sure how wide a range the inhabit.

They are one of the few winged creatures that can thrive in those climes of near constantly high (35-50+ knot) winds common to the top and bottom horn of Africa, where you also find the ominous Albatros.

Frigate birds may be in the same family.
It is said of the Albatros, that they stay aloft 24/7 riding the constant high winds and even sleeping in flight, only coming down to earth briefly to mate and nest, and mostly only touching the water to snap up fish on the fly.

The Frigate birds will hover/park up high over the ocean, and when they spot a fish even one deep in the water,
they fold in their dinosaur wings and drop like a javelin straight through the water's surface at their prey.
I'm fairly sure that their narrow truncated wings even work like fish fins underwater, allowing them to chase down a fish over short spans.


Maybe the most powerful/aerodynamic high end consumer drones can handle 35-50+ knot winds these days?
But remember, if the wind is that strong at sea level, it is sure to be 2x to 3x that strong thousands of feet higher, above the Cumbre V volcano crater.
 Quoting: TerraFirma's Esoterrorist


That would be amazing to see / use.

Not sure if anyone has ever done it... There's always a first time.

thumbs
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It’s been done right now over the Iceland volcano. The videos are on YT.
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Prophetic message for Florida ! Urgent

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Quick summary? Possible?

Thanks....

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Samuel 2:22
“ 2 When the wicked, even mine enemies and my foes, came upon me to eat up my flesh, they stumbled and fell.

3 Though an host should encamp against me, my heart shall not fear: though war should rise against me, in this will I be confident. “ Ps 27
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I keep posting these live cams from La Palma, hope they are helpful-

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Yes and interestingly they changed the data now to say 1.9 at 11km.
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I'm getting conflicting reports on the depth of this quake.
Simple mistake or cover-up to prevent a panic?
 Quoting: Economic Prepper


Yeah, yesterday I saw two off both sides of the island, in the sea, vanish.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80608655


Link?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74567769


IGN, I didn't screen shot it and I should have. I posted on here about them vanishing when it happened.
At first there were two in the sea, east coast, just under where it says Santa Cruz De La Palma.
Then I refreshed and there was just one of the two left. But another was in the sea on the west coast just off the main bunch.
I clicked on here to see if anyone had posted, no one had, so went back to check the strengths and both had gone. Sure they were around 2.8-2.9.
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So officials look worried, but "everything under control" as they can evacuate 2,000 out of 85,000 inhabitants and they keep yellow light status?

I tell you what, they don't want panic and don't want people to actually try to leave now.
When this thing blows "oops didn't know it would do this so soon".

Because tourist money.
Canarias are traditionally Europes vacay spots all year round, especially in the colder seasons. Much money would be lost on a false alarm especially after all this corona damage
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120 pages of nothingburger

The burning mountain will be thrown into the sea, but not yet. The timeline is in your Bible, dust it off and read it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77326810


and yet here you are wasting your time on a nothingburger.
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[link to www.nrc.gov (secure)]

This is an assessment done in 2016 by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission regarding tsunami threats to the east cost of the US. This was done post Fukushima to get a true baseline of all the threats.

While multiple threats are addressed, there is a full chapter on Las Palmas. Many studies were done and they acknowledge the previous studies and their mega tsunami predictions. Their new modeling suggests that it would not be as destructive as the initial mega tsunami models concluded. It’s pretty technical, but very informative and worth a read.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80846216


Great. Thank you

Our fed gov also references the islands here - both on the webpage I link below and the pdf report found on the same page

NOAA, USGS, NWS, and apparently NRC, are all aware of the tsunami threat

Anyone who thinks nothingburger has their head in the sand

[link to nws.weather.gov (secure)]

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Beginning Monday 9/20 8:00 local time, LP-2 highway through Circunvalación Sur will be closed

"due to an emergency action of transversal drainage works in the Tenisca ravine." (translated)

Hmm. Yeah. Interesting.

Don't want anyone seeing what's going on down there?

Here is some info on the road and location so you can look it up on a map and see just how big this area is, it's 55km long:

[link to www.obrapublicalapalma.com (secure)]
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Just mapped it


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So officials look worried, but "everything under control" as they can evacuate 2,000 out of 85,000 inhabitants and they keep yellow light status?

I tell you what, they don't want panic and don't want people to actually try to leave now.
When this thing blows "oops didn't know it would do this so soon".

Because tourist money.
Canarias are traditionally Europes vacay spots all year round, especially in the colder seasons. Much money would be lost on a false alarm especially after all this corona damage
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hesright





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