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Tangy
User ID: 23189531 United States 09/28/2021 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This guy is great, also in new Jersey. Maybe his videos can give you some ideas. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
CSUadmin
User ID: 77746592 Costa Rica 09/28/2021 01:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | as far as veggies, just peppers (a few diff kinds) some gourds and pumpkins.. the stuff that stays alive for the winter comes into this room; https://imgur.com/gc0OzBQ https://imgur.com/F8X9bor https://imgur.com/lFJ9djW https://imgur.com/KlYuvXe |
CSUadmin
User ID: 77746592 Costa Rica 09/28/2021 01:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | anything potted from here will come inside when it gets cold; (mostly peppers) https://imgur.com/u7YAlEu https://imgur.com/V5UgkBW |
SugarSand
(OP) User ID: 77504359 United States 09/28/2021 01:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This guy is great, also in new Jersey. Maybe his videos can give you some ideas. Quoting: Tangy [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Thank you! When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
SugarSand
(OP) User ID: 77504359 United States 09/28/2021 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | anything potted from here will come inside when it gets cold; (mostly peppers) Quoting: CSUadmin https://imgur.com/u7YAlEu https://imgur.com/V5UgkBW Cool! I'm trying to do it outside with microclimates and the right varieties. From what I'm reading, spinach is pretty easy, so I'm going to go heavier on that. I have that and all the brassicas going in raised beds, and they could probably be covered over with hooped plastic pretty easily. I made some beds up against the house, thinking that the ambient heat from the house might be helpful, and that it would be easy to tent or mulch up against the house. It would be a good spot to grow some root vegetables ... maybe turnips ... carrots? I have no idea what to put there lol When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
Superkicker
User ID: 79122746 United States 09/28/2021 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Got my outdoors greens (mostly kale & salad) garden in an area near the house which protects from W, NW, and N winds. They need to reach approx. 6-8" in height before the first major cold snaps to continue producing all winter when unprotected by a greenhouse here in the mid-south. Superkicker |
SugarSand
(OP) User ID: 77504359 United States 09/28/2021 01:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This guy is great, also in new Jersey. Maybe his videos can give you some ideas. Quoting: Tangy [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] We're very fortunate in New Jersey ... it's not called the Garden State for nothing. :) When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
Superkicker
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SugarSand
(OP) User ID: 77504359 United States 09/28/2021 01:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Got my outdoors greens (mostly kale & salad) garden in an area near the house which protects from W, NW, and N winds. They need to reach approx. 6-8" in height before the first major cold snaps to continue producing all winter when unprotected by a greenhouse here in the mid-south. Quoting: Superkicker That's excellent. I'm going to have to learn more ways to use kale. My Spring batch got eaten overnight by groundhogs. My Fall batch got eaten by bugs the day they went in the ground. My Winter batch is in a groundhog proof raised bed ... I hope I can protect it and keep it going. When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
SugarSand
(OP) User ID: 77504359 United States 09/28/2021 01:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Should be planted by the 3'rd week of August here, but mine is running 3 weeks late this year. Hopefully they can get to the viable size in the next few weeks. Quoting: Superkicker What did you plant? That sounds like a colder climate than where I am. Most fall stuff could go in through September here. When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
Silicon Jock
User ID: 80890053 United States 09/28/2021 02:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm in zone 7. Quoting: SugarSand Here in NJ, it can get quite cold down to 0 for a few weeks ... or else it is mild with most days above freezing. I'm growing kale, spinach, chard, cauliflower, brussels sprouts, broccoli and cabbage very late this year, been starting and planting incrementally, in hopes of getting some vegetables in the Winter. This is the first time I tried this. I'm reading and trying to leverage microclimates ... thinking of making some kind of lean-to cold frame contraption any advice would be greatly appreciated! Kale and other thick leafed brassicas can survive temps well into the teens covered in snow. They just do not grow any larger once temps get below freezing. What I would suggest is investing in an aeroponic system. I use a tower garden. You can grow leafy vegetables all year long, you just have to add water and nutrients and manage the pH. They make vertical light kits that will provide enough light for leafy (non fruiting) vegetables to grow. Aeroponics allows the plants to grow about 200-300% faster than they would in soil. If you eat a lot of lettuce, brassica (kale, broccoli, cauliflower, brussels, etc), spinach, chard, herbs etc aeroponics is where it is at. Downside is you need a 3x3' space for it. |
Uncle Gintel
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Tone Loc
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Serenity Now
User ID: 80794122 Italy 09/28/2021 04:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm in zone 7. Quoting: SugarSand Here in NJ, it can get quite cold down to 0 for a few weeks ... or else it is mild with most days above freezing. I'm growing kale, spinach, chard, cauliflower, brussels sprouts, broccoli and cabbage very late this year, been starting and planting incrementally, in hopes of getting some vegetables in the Winter. This is the first time I tried this. I'm reading and trying to leverage microclimates ... thinking of making some kind of lean-to cold frame contraption any advice would be greatly appreciated! Kale and other thick leafed brassicas can survive temps well into the teens covered in snow. They just do not grow any larger once temps get below freezing. What I would suggest is investing in an aeroponic system. I use a tower garden. You can grow leafy vegetables all year long, you just have to add water and nutrients and manage the pH. They make vertical light kits that will provide enough light for leafy (non fruiting) vegetables to grow. Aeroponics allows the plants to grow about 200-300% faster than they would in soil. If you eat a lot of lettuce, brassica (kale, broccoli, cauliflower, brussels, etc), spinach, chard, herbs etc aeroponics is where it is at. Downside is you need a 3x3' space for it. I do indoor hydroponics as well, with several AeroGardens and also the Kratky method. Herbs, lettuce, peppers, cabbage, etc. If you can't invest in a Tower Gatden or AeroGarden, definitely check out the Kratky method. It is very inexpensive and easy to do, especially if you live in an apartment like I do. Good luck to all the gardeners out there. :) First tell the truth, then give your opinion.... |
Pay attention
User ID: 80861733 Czechia 09/28/2021 04:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Make an earth green house (if that’s the term) look into it. Of course south facing, will need perfect positioning for best results. This will bump up your temperatures. So basically it’s a frame on top of an area dug into the ground perhaps a meter or so. I guess you could add water barrels for extra heat insulation. Of course you could add electric heaters, but realistically for the sake of the times we are in, look at doing this without power. You’ll still need a daily air exchange I imagine to avoid molds and get the best out of growth. Yes the plants you’ve listed are cold weather, but you may be able to get them to thrive ALL year. Maybe you could even use s basic solar powered method of energy actually. Last Edited by Pay attention on 09/28/2021 04:09 AM |
Restless Native
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SugarSand
(OP) User ID: 77504359 United States 09/28/2021 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Make an earth green house (if that’s the term) look into it. Of course south facing, will need perfect positioning for best results. This will bump up your temperatures. So basically it’s a frame on top of an area dug into the ground perhaps a meter or so. Quoting: Pay attention I guess you could add water barrels for extra heat insulation. Of course you could add electric heaters, but realistically for the sake of the times we are in, look at doing this without power. You’ll still need a daily air exchange I imagine to avoid molds and get the best out of growth. Yes the plants you’ve listed are cold weather, but you may be able to get them to thrive ALL year. Maybe you could even use s basic solar powered method of energy actually. Thank you so much. I'll look into all that. I'm going to have to build SOMETHING. I could buy something, some kind of indoor rig or outdoor greenhouse, but I'm trying like heck to do this the hard way. My goal is to feed myself 100% from my garden and foraging next year, starting in spring. This Winter is my test Winter. My current beds are raised, and not recessed like you described, but a lot of my research talks about recessing the beds. Thanks again When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
SugarSand
(OP) User ID: 77504359 United States 09/28/2021 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm in zone 7. Quoting: SugarSand Here in NJ, it can get quite cold down to 0 for a few weeks ... or else it is mild with most days above freezing. I'm growing kale, spinach, chard, cauliflower, brussels sprouts, broccoli and cabbage very late this year, been starting and planting incrementally, in hopes of getting some vegetables in the Winter. This is the first time I tried this. I'm reading and trying to leverage microclimates ... thinking of making some kind of lean-to cold frame contraption any advice would be greatly appreciated! Kale and other thick leafed brassicas can survive temps well into the teens covered in snow. They just do not grow any larger once temps get below freezing. What I would suggest is investing in an aeroponic system. I use a tower garden. You can grow leafy vegetables all year long, you just have to add water and nutrients and manage the pH. They make vertical light kits that will provide enough light for leafy (non fruiting) vegetables to grow. Aeroponics allows the plants to grow about 200-300% faster than they would in soil. If you eat a lot of lettuce, brassica (kale, broccoli, cauliflower, brussels, etc), spinach, chard, herbs etc aeroponics is where it is at. Downside is you need a 3x3' space for it. I DO eat a TON of greens (my dietary thing in in my sig), so much so that I feel like I MUST learn to grow them year round for self-sufficiency. Indoor space is really limited, though. I have a very small house containing 5 people on two awesome, awesome permaculture-in-progress acres. I'm the only freak in the family who is determined to eat only from the yard this year. I feel like maybe I could put that tower in the shed, though ... Thank you for the great advice. It's good to know people have real success with those setups and aren't just trying to sell them. When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
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Let Freedom Ring 365
User ID: 80923726 United States 09/28/2021 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This guy is great, also in new Jersey. Maybe his videos can give you some ideas. Quoting: Tangy [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Thx You are the creator of your own master plan... Make it a good one. Wake the fuk up and be ready... This is absolutely no time to be stupid! “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” - Nikola Tesla |
SugarSand
(OP) User ID: 77504359 United States 09/28/2021 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm in zone 7. Quoting: SugarSand Here in NJ, it can get quite cold down to 0 for a few weeks ... or else it is mild with most days above freezing. I'm growing kale, spinach, chard, cauliflower, brussels sprouts, broccoli and cabbage very late this year, been starting and planting incrementally, in hopes of getting some vegetables in the Winter. This is the first time I tried this. I'm reading and trying to leverage microclimates ... thinking of making some kind of lean-to cold frame contraption any advice would be greatly appreciated! Kale and other thick leafed brassicas can survive temps well into the teens covered in snow. They just do not grow any larger once temps get below freezing. What I would suggest is investing in an aeroponic system. I use a tower garden. You can grow leafy vegetables all year long, you just have to add water and nutrients and manage the pH. They make vertical light kits that will provide enough light for leafy (non fruiting) vegetables to grow. Aeroponics allows the plants to grow about 200-300% faster than they would in soil. If you eat a lot of lettuce, brassica (kale, broccoli, cauliflower, brussels, etc), spinach, chard, herbs etc aeroponics is where it is at. Downside is you need a 3x3' space for it. I do indoor hydroponics as well, with several AeroGardens and also the Kratky method. Herbs, lettuce, peppers, cabbage, etc. If you can't invest in a Tower Gatden or AeroGarden, definitely check out the Kratky method. It is very inexpensive and easy to do, especially if you live in an apartment like I do. Good luck to all the gardeners out there. :) I have a lot of land, but my inclination is still to put stuff in containers, even though my garden soil is great. It feels like less work somehow. It's good to know at least two GLPers have success indoors. Thank you for the advice. I always look at those aerogardens ... what about buying the pods? Do you have to use their pods? When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
SugarSand
(OP) User ID: 77504359 United States 09/28/2021 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yup plant your cole(cold) crops now, cabbage, broccoli, kale that stuff love cool and cold..feed you thru the winter with the green the human bodies need... Quoting: fritzberkowitz I can't WAIT to make sauerkraut!!! Also, that stuff FREEZES well ... spinach, broccoli ... I'm mad at myself for not doing more carrots. It looks like they would be ok, too. When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
SewDucky
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SugarSand
(OP) User ID: 77504359 United States 09/28/2021 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ill turn my back patio into an attached greenhouse. I have the glass . Just need to finish other projects first. Put up the walls and glass and cut hole in room for the glass. Quoting: Tone Loc I'm eyeing up the shed and chicken coop. There are mods that could be done. This is my third year gardening outdoors and I'm learning so much ... I don't want to stop for Winter. When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
SugarSand
(OP) User ID: 77504359 United States 09/28/2021 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We grow tomatoes inside and alfalfa, broccoli and radish sprouts on the kitchen counter under the task lighting. Quoting: Restless Native Do you grow the tomatoes in dirt or hydroponically? Thank you! When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
SugarSand
(OP) User ID: 77504359 United States 09/28/2021 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This guy is great, also in new Jersey. Maybe his videos can give you some ideas. Quoting: Tangy [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Found one about Winter! When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
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TXGLP2
User ID: 80129212 United States 09/28/2021 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zone 5 here, and I watch Canadian Prepper. I planted a fall garden in July, but it's mostly in shade, yet still growing, so I'm still watering. New place, new garden, will be better next year. One thing is, if it's planted in the fall, and doesn't make it to edible crop in time because of snow or below-zero temps, it is at least in there, and may give you a head-start on the spring crop as a result. "Volunteers." Pre-Order the 532-page Rare Seeds Catalogue with free shipping at $10 instead of $12.95 and you'll get it in November instead of the free one in December. Deal! That catalogue can blow your mind. |
SugarSand
(OP) User ID: 77504359 United States 09/28/2021 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a great option for the way my beds already are. This guy is great, he's so Jersey in a good way. The Italians in Jersey love their gardens and are so enthusiastic about them. When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |