Difference Between Liberal Body Choice Issues vs Forced Vaccinations? --- Critical Thinkers Only.

Is this not hypocrisy?

It's worse than hypocrisy.

The vaccination is clearly "My body, my choice"

With abortion, there is an argument that the fetus is not part of your body, but a separate human who is also deserves protection. I'm not diving into that, but the point is there is at least an argument that abortion is not purely "my body, my choice".

Any person who supports abortion rights but not the right to reject the vaccine is a full-on, indefensible hypocrite.

Last Edited by Zalinsky on 10/03/2021 06:31 PM

I hear you and agree, but like you said that's a completely different topic. What I'm driving at is just the legal/constitutional aspect of it.


My main point is huge cognitive dissonance in their minds, they want their cake, but yet want to force others to a different standard of legal rights, or loss of.

Logic fallacy and false analogy.

You could turn it around and say:

They are demanding freedom to choose with their bodies whether they want to be vaccinated, but yet want to force women to not be allowed an abortion for any reason.

They don’t care one bit about their own hypocrisy. They only care about amassing power. It is important to understand this, because typical conservative attacks such as “they’re hypocrites!” have absolutely no effect upon them.

They'd say speak of infection. However, since the vax does not prevent transmission or infection I'd say it should fall under my body my choice. I'll even stay out of the hospital if they'll let me fill a therapeutic prescription. I'd sign a contract. I'll take the hit if I catch it.

It is the double standard that we see - once reserved for royalty/celebrates/politicians - now being extended - somewhat - to those who worship them

you can identify them easily ... they are still wearing masks

The argument I think works best is this for them:

With abortion, if I abort my baby (at that time, "a clump of cells" it affects no one. Only me and my life. So it's my body, my embryo, and I get to decide about that, not "nine old men in black robes" (as the court was back at the time of Roe v. Wade).

Here, if I don't get the shot, the argument is it does affect someone else--everyone who thinks me not being vaccinated puts them at a greater public health risk; that I have a greater chance of giving it to them/them catching it from me. And, they don't want to get sick, and they want to go on vacaction and to the bars and restaurants. And, if I get sick, the "state" may have to pay for my medical care. And, if I am getting medical care, that takes a bed and resources away from the smug vaccinated should they need care, bed a ventilator (reference, Bridget Jones Diary (the smug married)).

So there actually is at a least some counter argument here that they/the state has a vested interest in what I do with my body.

But when it comes to constitutional law, it's always a balancing test, of the constitutional right (privacy, personal autonomy, balanced against the interests of the state, is how the court decides.

The problem is that those on the politcal "left" (or collectivists if you prefer) have no understanding or comprehension of individual natural rights. Others exist to serve the public good, and may be used, abused, sacrificed or ignored to serve some subjective, usually selfish, shortsighted idea of what is best for everyone. When this is your ideology a "right" is an ability to use someone else for your own purposes or agenda without fear of consequences or punishment

Hence the "logic" goes something like this:

you must take the vax because I think it will benefit everyone (especially by protecting me)

Also: I may violate the rights of the father and the bodily autonomy of my baby because it would be best if an "unwanted" baby was not born - thus benefiting everyone - especially me.


Know who else felt the community came before the individual?
Look up the phrase "Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz"

My health is my choice and that's not ever going to change.