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Our 16-year-old daughter was diagnosed with T1D (formerly known as juvenile diabetes) a couple of weeks ago. This has been a very trying time for us, and I appreciate the well wishes I have received here. I've run the gamut of emotions, and now it's time to step back and look for options.

I have been searching online for outside-the-box options, but I know I might get better hard-to-find info by asking here instead.

I have a healthy distrust of pharm and western medicine practices, so getting sucked into that system has been an additional blow. Asking them for alternative ideas is not going to give me the good stuff.

The problem: In layman's terms, her immune system has specifically targeted and destroyed the Beta cells in the pancreas, the cells that produce insulin. There is a period of time (could be a couple weeks to maybe 2 years) known as the honeymoon period where some of those Beta cells remain and actually keep doing their work along with our external supplemental insulin shots. Eventually all of those Beta cells will be destroyed by the immune system.

I am looking for suggestions, if anyone has heard of anything, that will get the immune system back on track to slow or stop the attack on her remaining cells.

Yes, even with some salvaged Beta cells, she would still need insulin shots several times a day for the rest of her life, but at least some functioning Beta cells make maintenance easier since the body is so much more in tune and intuitive to sugar levels than we can ever be on the outside.

For example, there is a new drug in clinical trials (UC San Fran) to do just that, but I have serious doubts about getting involved in all that.

There is another researcher working on probiotics (and I am a big proponent of probiotics!) to calm systemic inflammation, which may or may not be a factor in triggering the disease, for example when the irritated immune system has to kick in for some other reason like a virus or general infection. I like where he's going with that, but need more info. And as probiotics users know, there are many kinds with various functions; it's a large subject to understand.

Just a little background info:
• My daughter was apparently quite healthy before this, with minor seasonal allergies in September/start of school season, like many people.
• She is active and thin.
• She is on no other medications, other than the occasional advil for cramps or minor headaches.
• She has a somewhat weak stomach, in that she can't eat large servings of fried foods or super spicy foods.
• She has had no vaccines at all in her life, and especially not the recent one that so many of us are avoiding. (I think this rules out some of the most obvious arguments about an immune system destroyed by a lifetime of way too many vaxxes, so that's why I'm mentioning it.)
• We generally have a pretty good diet, not too high in carbs or processed foods or junk foods, but of course we have some of that stuff. We eat a lot of organics and always avoid bleached flour, high fructose corn syrup, and the like.
• She is having some problems with yeast, so advice on that would be helpful too. (We are currently using garlic tablets and probiotics to try to correct an apparent imbalance.)
• I'm fairly certain she has been exposed to covid, but I don't think she has had it. We will be getting a blood test in the next couple of weeks (when we have time to catch our breath) to see if she has antibodies. Hubby and I were pretty sick in February 2020, before anyone had heard of covid, and the symptoms do seem to match up; our daughter never showed any illness at that time. She did seem to maybe have a virus at the beginning of school this year, but we assumed it was allergies and sniffles that lots of kids and teachers get around that time every year.
• Plenty of peers around her have been vaxxed for covid, so there is the possibility of exposure to shedding. There has been a lot of pressure from the school district to vax. She was homeschooled for the 5 years leading up to high school, but is now in public high school (sophomore year); last year she did get to go to school a total of maybe 21 days near the end of the year, with seriously annoying distancing, limited amount of students, and stringent masks. (I know, don't get me started. She was just so happy to be there with peers and mentors, so please don't bother piling on with criticism.) She does spend time in close proximity to other students, and they wear masks on the buses but not outside during competitions.
• Since late August or so, we have been following the Frontline Doctors protocol, including C, D, quercitin, zinc, and the whole list. I had thought I was doing my best by her immune system, but alas, something has obviously gone awry.

We are not awash with funds at the moment, but are willing to commit time and money to realistic suggestions, including travel if needed.



TL;DR Looking for alternatives to slow the progression of type 1 (juvenile) diabetes during the honeymoon period. Open to any and all ideas, no matter how "out there" it may seem.

Thanks for reading.



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Definitely diet changes. Avoid gluten and sugar. I pray she improves friend. Sorry I can’t be of any help.
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Definitely diet changes. Avoid gluten and sugar. I pray she improves friend. Sorry I can’t be of any help.
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Thank you. I appreciate your kind response.

Compared to some people we know, our diet changes aren't going to be too drastic from what we were already doing. But we're still Americans, and she's still a teenager, so yes, there is plenty to work on, no matter how well we think we were doing prior to this.
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Take the pills they prescribe! My son is also and is married now and doing well!!!!!!
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Take the pills they prescribe! My son is also and is married now and doing well!!!!!!
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Thank you for the response. I'm glad your son is doing well. That gives hope, much appreciated. I assume since you say "pills", that he has type 2 diabetes?

Type 1 has no pills that I know of, only two types of injections every day, each with a separate prescription. It's really a completely different thing.

Either way, rest assured we will be following all prescriptions as directed.

What I'm really looking for are tips/options/supplements that the mainstream docs don't know (or know and won't tell).
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Does she regularly do fast food with friends? This is something she probably wouldn't admit at first, but after the reality of the diagnosis it might come out. All types of teenagers enjoy going with friends to McDonald's, Wendy's, etc., though unfortunately some may have a drastically more acute response to regular consumption than others, based on many things which I am sure you're aware of, such as exercise, genetics, and quantity consumed per day.
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Does she regularly do fast food with friends? This is something she probably wouldn't admit at first, but after the reality of the diagnosis it might come out. All types of teenagers enjoy going with friends to McDonald's, Wendy's, etc., though unfortunately some may have a drastically more acute response to regular consumption than others, based on many things which I am sure you're aware of, such as exercise, genetics, and quantity consumed per day.
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That's a valid question. However, she is the oldest of her friends and the only one with a drivers license, which she's only had for a few months, with no passengers at this stage. I will definitely ask about this though, because she could stop by on her way home from school.

However, on Fridays the marching band does get food before football games, usually Chik-Fil-A chicken sandwiches or Mexican food from a local restaurant. Never Wendy's or any typical fast foods like that.

I like your line of thinking. Where should I go with it?
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Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise him up. If he has sinned, he will be forgiven.



BTW...A long fast resets the pancreas.
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Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise him up. If he has sinned, he will be forgiven.



BTW...A long fast resets the pancreas.
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Hmmm, yes. I actually do have an excellent elder I can contact, and I had not thought of that.

I am reading now about the fasting too. Interesting. I would have never thought to do a search with those words, and yet there it is.

Thank you.
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Definitely diet changes. Avoid gluten and sugar. I pray she improves friend. Sorry I can’t be of any help.
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I read here, a number of years ago, that some people had success eating Juniper berries. Those little green pinecone like things on Juniper trees. I think they make Gin out of them.

Some were even claiming their diabetes was cured. Might be worth looking it up.
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I have read that Cinammon helps for the other type of diabetes, maybe worth researching.
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We had a harder time dealing with hypoglycemia during the honeymoon period when our son developed Type 1 at the age of 8. We checked his BG a ton as they didn’t have continuous glucose monitoring back then, so we were able to keep up with dropping the insulin dosages. It was easier when the honeymoon passed.

Look for clinical trials for the latest research. One interesting approach that has been successful in animals is forcing cells other than the beta cells to make insulin. A better clinical trial to look for would be one of primary defense: stopping the autoimmune attack on the beta cells. I first read research in this area a lot of years ago. At that time (don’t know about now), they were saying that they would need clinical trial participants that had recently been diagnosed and thus still had functional beta cells.
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I read here, a number of years ago, that some people had success eating Juniper berries. Those little green pinecone like things on Juniper trees. I think they make Gin out of them.

Some were even claiming their diabetes was cured. Might be worth looking it up.
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I am definitely looking it up. Thanks!
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I have read that Cinammon helps for the other type of diabetes, maybe worth researching.
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From what I've seen, it's more for type 2 diabetics, but I will do some searching and asking around to see if there are any type 1 benefits. Thank you.
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I don’t know if you’d see this on the “Can I help you thread”, so I wanted to put it here for you. I left this one out of my previous tips.

When my kid went back to school, I went up and talked to the kids in his class. Some people have brown hair, some people have black hair, blah, blah . . . some people have diabetes and some people don’t. We demonstrated a blood test and all but one kid watched. Several parents reported to the teacher that this talk worked great for their previously terrified children. If there are young kids in your family that are scared, they might do well with some facts. (I got big on this myself as an adult due to a lack of facts being given to me when I was 3.)

Since your daughter is a teen, her friends might do well with an adult talk. I trained my son’s friends (a group of 14) on what hypoglycemia would look like if it got to the point where he could not help himself. I trained them on what to do, starting with getting him down on the ground and holding him down. They were interested and also kind of excited about being able to do the job some day. When “some day” arrived, they did what they had to do but found out there was nothing fun or exciting about it, They said it was very scary but were glad they knew it exactly what to do.

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We had a harder time dealing with hypoglycemia during the honeymoon period when our son developed Type 1 at the age of 8. We checked his BG a ton as they didn’t have continuous glucose monitoring back then, so we were able to keep up with dropping the insulin dosages. It was easier when the honeymoon passed.

Look for clinical trials for the latest research. One interesting approach that has been successful in animals is forcing cells other than the beta cells to make insulin. A better clinical trial to look for would be one of primary defense: stopping the autoimmune attack on the beta cells. I first read research in this area a lot of years ago. At that time (don’t know about now), they were saying that they would need clinical trial participants that had recently been diagnosed and thus still had functional beta cells.
 Quoting: Queen Runner


Well, our doctor doesn't want my daughter to get the continuous glucose monitor for a couple of months because she wants her to learn to do it "old school" before relying on technology. I get it, but it's frustrating. Doc also won't prescribe an insulin pump for at least 6 months, for this and other "reasons." (But then they have a bad habit of repeatedly telling us, "but this part will get easier with the pump" – which we can't have. Annoying.)

Anyway... My main focus at this moment is the primary defense. Stop the attack while there are still some beta cells left.

There is a phase 3 clinical study right now in UC San Francisco on a drug recently approved by the FDA (an organization not high on my trust list, but that's another topic for another day) that is supposed to stop the attack. There are articles about it online starting 10 years ago when they first started working on it, so I bet it's the same stuff you had read. It is moving along since then.

I have emailed our doctor about it for her opinion. Some issues with it: We have to start within 42 days of diagnosis, which is coming up quicker than we think. We could get placebo, which is too bad if it actually works and we miss out because the honeymoon window closes before we could get the real thing. Also, I personally have a lot of distrust in the industry, so I have a lot of questions to ask. AND it's on the other side of the country from us; do we really want to fly with all the covid nonsense? Is it worth driving three days, staying a little while, then driving three days back? (If it works, heck yes.) But that's a lot of ducks to get in a row in a couple of weeks.

I'll keep my eyes open for any other studies too. Thanks for your supportive response.
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OP, this research paper might be of interest to you; bidens pilosa is a common plant, a type of daisy:

Hypoglycemic and High Dosage Effects of Bidens pilosa in Type-1 Diabetes Mellitus
[link to www.scirp.org (secure)]

Then there is this, to give you another bit of hope:

Taiwanese scientists discover potential cure for diabetes
[link to www.taiwannews.com.tw (secure)]

And here is a GLP thread re:the above treatment:
Thread: Cure may have been found for Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes

Hope this helps. hf
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Could try American ginseng teas, just be reallly fucking careful because ginseng makes you bleed easy.

Wood ear fungus, the little stripie thingies in hot and sour soup made into a tea is supposed to be good for diabetes.

Optunia fruit and pads(nopales) are good for immune function. Tastes like green beans. The fruit can be sweet or sour, sweet variety might be good for a low.

Beans and peas, it'll help with the thin too.

Making sure she gets a solid 8-12hrs sleep.
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One more thing; the herb Gymnema Sylvestre has been uses in Ayurvedic medicine for centuries to treat diabetes:

[link to www.ayush.com (secure)]

Not a panacea, but something to look into. Again, hope this helps.
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I could be like all the other people on GLP and say something like all doctors suck and to mix a concoction of turmeric and witch hazel and everything will be just fine. Bur I won't I will be honest with you.

At this time there simply isn't any help for type 1 progression other than control. Logically, even if their was a short extension before complete cell death (say a year) what would that get you in comparison terms of a 70 year life span? Sadly, I think that plan of attack is futile in the scheme of the rapid and inevitible progression.

Instead I would focus on getting your 16 year old started off right with strictly adhering to blood control practices, optimal new long acting insulins are far less peaky than the old ones, real time glucometers and pumps are phenomenal, and of course eating less spiky carb foods will give your 16 year old an outlook that is far far more optimistic than people who got this dreaded disease even 20-30 years ago!

Best to you and your daughter!!!!
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Ceylon cinnamon is known to (help) reduce blood glucose.
Only the Ceylon type.
You can buy it in pill form, even in Walmart.
If you want to cook with it just break a capsule and shake it out.
I take it and cook with it now.


*Regular cinnamon contains high amounts of coumarin. Studies have shown that eating too much coumarin may increase the risk of liver toxicity and damage.


*How much damaging coumarin have we eaten in our lives? Too much.
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Take her to Functional Medicine Doctor. They will analyze her blood and tell you what she is deficient in and tell you what to feed her. Years ago, I tested A1C of 9.6, in 2 months my A1C was 5.5. You asked and I am trying to help you. The FMD I saw is in the Pittsburgh and will a telemed via phone. If interested I will give you his name and number.
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Remember in your journey that 95% of all people don't even know the difference between type 1 & 2 diabetes and it is even less on here.

I'd even venture that greater than 50% of type 2 diabetics probably don't really understand what type 1 diabetes is.

You obviously now know that the causes and treatment regimen is completely different.

In other words, most people's diabetes understanding and anecdotal advice sucks they don't have a clue what they are talking about.
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I wish I could make suggestions, only not to ever drink Orange Juice or Apple juice.

Both to high in sugar for anyone with issues. Blood sugar even in a normal person can have dangerous spikes from juice.

Sorry to hear she's having problems.
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Our 16-year-old daughter was diagnosed with T1D (formerly known as juvenile diabetes) a couple of weeks ago. This has been a very trying time for us, and I appreciate the well wishes I have received here. I've run the gamut of emotions, and now it's time to step back and look for options.

I have Been searching online for outside-the-box options, but I know I might get better hard-to-find info by asking here instead.

I have a healthy distrust of pharm and western medicine practices, so getting sucked into that system has been an additional blow. Asking them for alternative ideas is not going to give me the good stuff.

The problem: In layman's terms, her immune system has specifically targeted and destroyed the Beta cells in the pancreas, the cells that produce insulin. There is a period of time (could be a couple weeks to maybe 2 years) known as the honeymoon period where some of those Beta cells remain and actually keep doing their work along with our external supplemental insulin shots. Eventually all of those Beta cells will be destroyed by the immune system.

I am looking for suggestions, if anyone has heard of anything, that will get the immune system back on track to slow or stop the attack on her remaining cells.

Yes, even with some salvaged Beta cells, she would still need insulin shots several times a day for the rest of her life, but at least some functioning Beta cells make maintenance easier since the body is so much more in tune and intuitive to sugar levels than we can ever be on the outside.

For example, there is a new drug in clinical trials (UC San Fran) to do just that, but I have serious doubts about getting involved in all that.

There is another researcher working on probiotics (and I am a big proponent of probiotics!) to calm systemic inflammation, which may or may not be a factor in triggering the disease, for example when the irritated immune system has to kick in for some other reason like a virus or general infection. I like where he's going with that, but need more info. And as probiotics users know, there are many kinds with various functions; it's a large subject to understand.

Just a little background info:
• My daughter was apparently quite healthy before this, with minor seasonal allergies in September/start of school season, like many people.
• She is active and thin.
• She is on no other medications, other than the occasional advil for cramps or minor headaches.
• She has a somewhat weak stomach, in that she can't eat large servings of fried foods or super spicy foods.
• She has had no vaccines at all in her life, and especially not the recent one that so many of us are avoiding. (I think this rules out some of the most obvious arguments about an immune system destroyed by a lifetime of way too many vaxxes, so that's why I'm mentioning it.)
• We generally have a pretty good diet, not too high in carbs or processed foods or junk foods, but of course we have some of that stuff. We eat a lot of organics and always avoid bleached flour, high fructose corn syrup, and the like.
• She is having some problems with yeast, so advice on that would be helpful too. (We are currently using garlic tablets and probiotics to try to correct an apparent imbalance.)
• I'm fairly certain she has been exposed to covid, but I don't think she has had it. We will be getting a blood test in the next couple of weeks (when we have time to catch our breath) to see if she has antibodies. Hubby and I were pretty sick in February 2020, before anyone had heard of covid, and the symptoms do seem to match up; our daughter never showed any illness at that time. She did seem to maybe have a virus at the beginning of school this year, but we assumed it was allergies and sniffles that lots of kids and teachers get around that time every year.
• Plenty of peers around her have been vaxxed for covid, so there is the possibility of exposure to shedding. There has been a lot of pressure from the school district to vax. She was homeschooled for the 5 years leading up to high school, but is now in public high school (sophomore year); last year she did get to go to school a total of maybe 21 days near the end of the year, with seriously annoying distancing, limited amount of students, and stringent masks. (I know, don't get me started. She was just so happy to be there with peers and mentors, so please don't bother piling on with criticism.) She does spend time in close proximity to other students, and they wear masks on the buses but not outside during competitions.
• Since late August or so, we have been following the Frontline Doctors protocol, including C, D, quercitin, zinc, and the whole list. I had thought I was doing my best by her immune system, but alas, something has obviously gone awry.

We are not awash with funds at the moment, but are willing to commit time and money to realistic suggestions, including travel if needed.



TL;DR Looking for alternatives to slow the progression of type 1 (juvenile) diabetes during the honeymoon period. Open to any and all ideas, no matter how "out there" it may seem.

Thanks for reading.



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Hi, I am Type one, if you have any specific questions just ask. I am unable to respond by email because I have a free account. Basically, to maintain what beta cells she has left, the best thing she can do is to keep her blood sugar under control. I manage my own diabetes without a physician. I basically pick up my insulin and needles at Walmart for $25.00 every two months and I use the 70/30 bottle of insulin. You do not need a prescription to get it. I have notice that the 70/30 insulin is stronger than purchasing the NPH and regular bottles of insulin. Also the expiration date is longer. My later bottle I purchased yesterday expires 2024. The newer insulins expire within months. 70/30 means the basal and bolus are is in one bottle. I take 2 injections daily, and If I eat something I should not have, I give myself a correction shot.

You can find a sliding scale chart online for insulin dosage. It will tell your daughter how much insulin you should take based upon her blood sugar reading. I really like the Walmart insulin contrary to what you may read on line. Yes, I have tried the newer insulins but went back to the Walmart brand. The con about the Walmart insulin is she will not be able to use an insulin pump with the human insulin. Some of the newer insulins, list that they may increase the risk of cancer, but not all of them. The newer insulins are fast acting, and that can be a negative thing if you give yourself too much. Dr. Bernstein has a youtube channel that is very helpful to type one diabetics. He is in his mid eighties, and is a survivor and inspires many diabetics. Check out his channel when you get a chance.

Exercise, is very important because it can have the effect of reducing the amount of insulin your daughter takes, in addition to other obvious benefits.
Depression is something she may have to deal with, now that she has diabetes. It tends to go hand in hand. If she keeps her blood sugar under control and avoid the foods that she should avoid she will be fine. We all have out good days and bad days. The lowest cost way is Walmart insulin, if you have excellent medical insurance they may recommend the pump after 2 years, because they will want to. make sure the diabetic knows how to inject themselves without fear. After awhile she may stop feeling the needle, or realize that giving herself a shot is the least frightening part of diabetes.

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Re: Seeking suggestions for newly diagnosed type 1 diabetes to halt progression and extend the honeymoon period
Great info Foxy P. I do my son’s co-pays, and his costs are higher than you going over-the-counter.

He was started on NPH and Regular. Control was very difficult until he was put on Lantus and Humalog. Later changes to the pump with just Humalog, then Tujeo plus Humalog, then Tresiba plus Humalog. Control was similar with all of these; it was only difficult with NPH and Regular.

How easy is it for you to keep control with your regimen? Do you do low carb to help?

Here is a tip he got from his first endo once he aged out of pediatrics: Check BG at least eight times a day, and bring it down with insulin every time it’s high. Roller coaster blood sugar is fine as long as you don’t go way low hypoglycemic. Spikes up do not do much damage to the cells, and time not spent in hyperglycemia is cell healing time. The damage we see from hyperglycemia is due to staying hyper-G over long time periods.
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11/29/2021 07:01 PM

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Renaissance Woman: Yet another experience for you.

When she turns 18, medical staff will speak to her and not to you unless she OKs it. She will have to give permission for you to hear anything about her condition and treatment from them. It doesn’t matter that you and her dad are paying her bills. This is shocking at first, and annoying for some time. Be prepared for Advanced Apron String Cutting 101.
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11/30/2021 09:43 AM
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To all of the posters above, thank you! Sorry I am just now getting back to this thread. I am so happy to read all of your responses.

I'll respond better later once I digest some of this, but just wanted to drop by to thank you all.
"For with thee is the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light."
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12/03/2021 03:37 AM
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Re: Seeking suggestions for newly diagnosed type 1 diabetes to halt progression and extend the honeymoon period
Ceylon cinnamon is known to (help) reduce blood glucose.
Only the Ceylon type.
You can buy it in pill form, even in Walmart.
If you want to cook with it just break a capsule and shake it out.
I take it and cook with it now.


*Regular cinnamon contains high amounts of coumarin. Studies have shown that eating too much coumarin may increase the risk of liver toxicity and damage.


*How much damaging coumarin have we eaten in our lives? Too much.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76538212

According to what I have read, I believe this is not regular cinnamon but its cheaper variant, Cassia, which is often mixed in with cinnamon.





GLP