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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78038597 United States 12/05/2021 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | … and bad guys know - run without a plate - or with someone else’s plate - the cops search plate to get vin - to wrong vehicle. …. Unless - your bluetooth car is broadcasting its vin number like an IP address…. Hmmmm |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79565029 Netherlands 12/05/2021 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can anyone tell me how Joe Biden would shut off your 1972 Plymouth Valiant, or disable its slant six? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79565029 Laws could be passed, like at the California loading docks, to only allow vehicles of a certain age on the road. Therefore, vehicles only having computers and Wifi will be allowed on the road. All others could be ticketed and/or impounded... Who is going to pay to install the infrastructure? I know several US states that don’t have a viable EV charging infrastructure in place. Who is going to elect the politicians who enact the laws? The Controllers are broke, resigning, and heading to their bunkers. Their time is too short. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79565029 Netherlands 12/05/2021 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If AI is driving - why is this needed again?? Oh yeah - you didn’t pay your greenhouse gas tax - flippy offy the switch. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78038597 … and bad guys know - run without a plate - or with someone else’s plate - the cops search plate to get vin - to wrong vehicle. …. Unless - your bluetooth car is broadcasting its vin number like an IP address…. Hmmmm If you’re worried about the tech interfering with your driving enjoyment or control, do not use a vehicle that is equipped with it. Go find yourself a solid old car, restore it, and enjoy it. It really is that simple. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81431561 United States 12/05/2021 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We need to keep our cars in good repair so we don't have to replace them with newer models. I am grateful that the lure of a new vehicle does not affect me. Quoting: kat I am a practical person. Although when I purchased my new car 6 years ago I could have bought a far fancier model I instead chose a Chevy Spark. Manual transmission, manual door locks, 40 miles to the gallon. I am a small person so it fits me like a glove. It has blue tooth and a backup camera which is plenty of technology for me. But it came with Onstar. Not only did I never use it but they told me they could not disconnect it. Once a month I would get a report about my tire pressure, how much longer I could go before I needed an oil change etc. This is redundant. You get all this info every time you start your car right there on your dash. Seriously? I don't need to know this everyday from multiple sources. Finally last year I got the notice that it would be disconnected. Yeah! I don't want Alexa listening to me. I will not allow a smart meter on my house. If we purchase a "smart" appliance I have learned not to connect it to my phone, because, yes, I know my oven needs cleaning. I do not want my frig ordering milk. Good grief. All this spying is turning me into a Luddite. OnStar could be shut off by pulling a fuse in the first three generations. Not sure about now. I bet a screwdriver stabbed into it a half dozen times would do it. If I dont have control over a vehicle I wont own it or even ride in it. |
DuckNCover
User ID: 81018913 United States 12/05/2021 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can anyone tell me how Joe Biden would shut off your 1972 Plymouth Valiant, or disable its slant six? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79565029 Laws could be passed, like at the California loading docks, to only allow vehicles of a certain age on the road. Therefore, vehicles only having computers and Wifi will be allowed on the road. All others could be ticketed and/or impounded... Who is going to pay to install the infrastructure? I know several US states that don’t have a viable EV charging infrastructure in place. Who is going to elect the politicians who enact the laws? The Controllers are broke, resigning, and heading to their bunkers. Their time is too short. California used to be RED and the land of Reagan... Sadly, it is now a Blue State with many Socialistic/Communistic laws... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81431561 United States 12/05/2021 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If AI is driving - why is this needed again?? Oh yeah - you didn’t pay your greenhouse gas tax - flippy offy the switch. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78038597 … and bad guys know - run without a plate - or with someone else’s plate - the cops search plate to get vin - to wrong vehicle. …. Unless - your bluetooth car is broadcasting its vin number like an IP address…. Hmmmm If you’re worried about the tech interfering with your driving enjoyment or control, do not use a vehicle that is equipped with it. Go find yourself a solid old car, restore it, and enjoy it. It really is that simple. Or just disable it. Anything like that can be bi passed. It isn't like a computer is smart or something. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81431561 United States 12/05/2021 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can anyone tell me how Joe Biden would shut off your 1972 Plymouth Valiant, or disable its slant six? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79565029 Laws could be passed, like at the California loading docks, to only allow vehicles of a certain age on the road. Therefore, vehicles only having computers and Wifi will be allowed on the road. All others could be ticketed and/or impounded... Who is going to pay to install the infrastructure? I know several US states that don’t have a viable EV charging infrastructure in place. Who is going to elect the politicians who enact the laws? The Controllers are broke, resigning, and heading to their bunkers. Their time is too short. California used to be RED and the land of Reagan... Sadly, it is now a Blue State with many Socialistic/Communistic laws... Reagan was a communist. Communism didn't fall, we fell to it. Look around you. |
Crypto-Tard
User ID: 78144147 United States 12/05/2021 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no more police chases will be necessary in the future...cars will be shut down remotely. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81229283 if the feature is ever disabled, the car will cease to function and the warranty will be void. They already have this feature in any car made after 2004. Wake up!! When you are afraid of losing your life, you have already lost your life. Don't be afraid. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81431561 United States 12/05/2021 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no more police chases will be necessary in the future...cars will be shut down remotely. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81229283 if the feature is ever disabled, the car will cease to function and the warranty will be void. They already have this feature in any car made after 2004. Wake up!! I have tested my 2011 Titan and it does not emit radio frequency signals of any kind. I am sure many cars did have this, especially American made. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80518909 United States 12/05/2021 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Used cars are going to shoot up even more in value. The parts for maintenance or repairs will be 4x or made where you can’t find them forcing you into a new vehicle. The way to dodge this is to work and live with walkability. If rural invest in horses as they will be cheaper. |
Charbird
User ID: 76600178 United States 12/05/2021 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuck you sniffy pry that 05 SRT8 out of my hands NEVER buying another new car or another new phone Occult Ritual Transformation and Coronavirus: How Mask Wearing, Hand Washing, “Social Separation” and Lockdowns Are Age-Old Occult Rituals [link to haveyenotread.com (secure)] |
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Starburn
User ID: 81437802 South Africa 12/05/2021 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no more police chases will be necessary in the future...cars will be shut down remotely. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81229283 if the feature is ever disabled, the car will cease to function and the warranty will be void. potential criminals will be easily identified because they'll most likely choose to drive cars made before the kill switch feature was enacted. Patriots? "I have no special talent, I am only passionately curious." -Albert Einstein |
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kat
User ID: 53407402 United States 12/05/2021 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We need to keep our cars in good repair so we don't have to replace them with newer models. I am grateful that the lure of a new vehicle does not affect me. Quoting: kat I am a practical person. Although when I purchased my new car 6 years ago I could have bought a far fancier model I instead chose a Chevy Spark. Manual transmission, manual door locks, 40 miles to the gallon. I am a small person so it fits me like a glove. It has blue tooth and a backup camera which is plenty of technology for me. But it came with Onstar. Not only did I never use it but they told me they could not disconnect it. Once a month I would get a report about my tire pressure, how much longer I could go before I needed an oil change etc. This is redundant. You get all this info every time you start your car right there on your dash. Seriously? I don't need to know this everyday from multiple sources. Finally last year I got the notice that it would be disconnected. Yeah! I don't want Alexa listening to me. I will not allow a smart meter on my house. If we purchase a "smart" appliance I have learned not to connect it to my phone, because, yes, I know my oven needs cleaning. I do not want my frig ordering milk. Good grief. All this spying is turning me into a Luddite. OnStar could be shut off by pulling a fuse in the first three generations. Not sure about now. I bet a screwdriver stabbed into it a half dozen times would do it. If I dont have control over a vehicle I wont own it or even ride in it. Well, it off now. I will remember the screwdriver trick if I need it in the future. No good deed goes unpunished. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80112633 Canada 12/05/2021 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Buried deep within the massive infrastructure legislation recently signed by President Joe Biden is a little-noticed “safety” measure that will take effect in five years. Marketed to Congress as a benign tool to help prevent drunk driving, the measure will mandate that automobile manufacturers build into every car what amounts to a “vehicle kill switch.” Quoting: CharlieFoxtrot As has become standard for legislative mandates passed by Congress, this measure is disturbingly short on details. What we do know is that the “safety” device must “passively monitor the performance of a driver of a motor vehicle to accurately identify whether that driver may be impaired.” [link to dailycaller.com (secure)] ...take effect in five years... so, assuming it isn't reverse between now and then, buy you car before 2026. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80271967 United States 12/05/2021 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can bet this is just one of dozens of these hidden gems snuck into a 2500 page 2 trillion dollar bill. Wish they would make a rule that no bill can be over 20 pages and anything that spends more than a couple billion needs to be voted on by referendum. Until then this trend is only getting worse |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80967934 United States 12/05/2021 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They already have a master unlock, personally got eyes on that this year on a 2011 chevy. I installed an additional and separate alarm system that night, then found they have the unlock and unarmed for that also. Total privacy invasion by the tax men. |
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