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I swear I did not have purine rich foods nor alcohol this past week and now I have goddamned gout in my goddamned left knee.

 
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Report back OP. Remember no more than a teaspoon of bicarb a day else you risk fatal alkinosis.
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Would half in the morning and half in the evening be better or I just take the whole thing now in the morning?
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Just space it over 24 hrs. If in pain, do it now, I guarantee that within the hour that hot burning sensation will be gone. Has your piss been dark orange color?
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Dark yellow orange. Eww. Smells too (sorry).
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Life is life, piss is a good indicator of dehydration. You will find it foams in the bowl too. You are dehydrated. Get rid of the gout and then take electrolytes to aid in hydration. Don't do the bicarb for more than a few days.
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Re: I swear I did not have purine rich foods nor alcohol this past week and now I have goddamned gout in my goddamned left knee.
I have had Gout over 20 years now and unable to control the attacks naturally. I MUST take Uloric every day I tried Allopurinol but was hard on my kidneys so I can only take Uloric.

If I ever forget to take Uloric on the 3rd day like clockwork I will have a knee or ankle the size of a grapefruit.

If I ever allow it to get to the point you are at OP the ONLY fix is a steroid shot then few colchicine pills and a few Indomethacin pills and Im on my feet in a day or so.

Then back on the Uloric and I seldom have a problem.
I have tried everything from tart cherry, alkaline water, lots of spring water, no alcohol and no purine rich food but without Uloric I will be in bed unable to move in 3 days.

The ONLY at home fix I have found is Epsom salt. A soak in Epson salt bath will help at least enough so I can somewhat get from the bed to the bathroom if I am in the middle of an attack, it eases the pain perhaps 10% for about an hour but if you have a full blown Gout attack you will welcome that 10% reduction in pain.

At one point I was buying 25 lbs bags of Epson Salt from Amazon. Epson Salt is amazing and my house plants love it too....
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Well I do have Colcichine tablet 1mg but they are laxative and as you say dragging yourself to the bathroom is excruciating.

Uloric I searched but cannot find can you send a link wehere to buy? Non-prescription?

Many thanks.
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ULORIC Link... [link to www.drugs.com (secure)]

Its all bad stuff I'm sure, I do so wish I could control my Gout naturally but I can't...
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Controlled substance over here - will have to pass on that one for now.
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5% mobility - fricking excruciating.

You should have seen me snaking myself to my desk this morning. Took 30 minutes.

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You know you've got it real good when you have to crawl to the toilet.

Here's a few things I'm trying at the moment:

Fisetin - a natural plant compound (also found in strawberries) to help with controlling the production of uric acid.
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I have had gout in my toe before but never my knee, that would suck. The pain came on in waves like it would build up in my toe with ever increasing throbbing pain and then it would "release" and this wave of extreme pain would wash slowly up my body and then back down to my foot again.

I remember writhing around in bed for like two days because I could not get comfortable at all. I would be in pain, but it felt like the pain would just keep increasing, and never subside. One minute it is the worst pain I ever felt, then literally a minute later it has increased and it is a new level of intensity for the worst pain I ever felt.

It was incredibly awful, like you smash your toe with a sledge hammer and then smash your whole foot and keep smashing it until it is a mashed up paste of blood and cracked shards of bone. And then you keep smashing it so any nerve endings that are still connected are sending your brain nothing but pain signals.

I think it was my diet. I was drinking too much alcohol, not getting enough exercise and also eating shit food like frozen pizzas and frozen pre cooked ribs in cheap BBQ sauce and frozen chicken wings from the dollar store.

I managed to get some black cherry juice and drank it constantly and I think it reduced the overall time of the gout event from like a week to just 3 days or so. If you don't know where to get black cherry juice try a grocer that specializes in Eastern European imported foods.
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I have had gout in my toe before but never my knee, that would suck. The pain came on in waves like it would build up in my toe with ever increasing throbbing pain and then it would "release" and this wave of extreme pain would wash slowly up my body and then back down to my foot again.

I remember writhing around in bed for like two days because I could not get comfortable at all. I would be in pain, but it felt like the pain would just keep increasing, and never subside. One minute it is the worst pain I ever felt, then literally a minute later it has increased and it is a new level of intensity for the worst pain I ever felt.

It was incredibly awful, like you smash your toe with a sledge hammer and then smash your whole foot and keep smashing it until it is a mashed up paste of blood and cracked shards of bone. And then you keep smashing it so any nerve endings that are still connected are sending your brain nothing but pain signals.

I think it was my diet. I was drinking too much alcohol, not getting enough exercise and also eating shit food like frozen pizzas and frozen pre cooked ribs in cheap BBQ sauce and frozen chicken wings from the dollar store.

I managed to get some black cherry juice and drank it constantly and I think it reduced the overall time of the gout event from like a week to just 3 days or so. If you don't know where to get black cherry juice try a grocer that specializes in Eastern European imported foods.
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Cherry juice. I eat cherry craisens as well
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I take naproxen sodium (Alleve) when I have a gout flare up. Need to take a minimum of 4 pills for the first dose. According to the Mayo Clinic link below you can take a higher first dose if needed. You also need to drink a ton of water to help get rid of the urid acid.

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Report back OP. Remember no more than a teaspoon of bicarb a day else you risk fatal alkinosis.
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Would half in the morning and half in the evening be better or I just take the whole thing now in the morning?
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Just space it over 24 hrs. If in pain, do it now, I guarantee that within the hour that hot burning sensation will be gone. Has your piss been dark orange color?
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Just took half 5 minutes ago - not expecting instant results but will try to put some weight on the leg in about 2 hours and post here.

Excited about the cherry extract also.
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I can lift my toes up now without pain so yeah it seems to be working. Can bend 10% now.

Knee is still blazing hot and throbbing though. Swelling is the same.

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All excellent ideas. Thanks guys. Will report back in February when I start the cherry extract.
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Drinking urine will cure that. Will cure Covid from setting in causing those problems.
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Drinking urine will cure that. Will cure Covid from setting in causing those problems.
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You haven't seen my urine have you. Or better yet smelled it.

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Re: I swear I did not have purine rich foods nor alcohol this past week and now I have goddamned gout in my goddamned left knee.
Woke me up at 2am. All swollen and red.

No I did not twist it - it is gout for sure.

Question is why now - have not had a problem with gout for years and up till now only in the toes and feet.

5% mobility - fricking excruciating.

You should have seen me snaking myself to my desk this morning. Took 30 minutes.

Anyway I just wanted to see if anyone has had gout in their knee before and what the quickest way to relief is?

Colchicina and cherries (have the first but it has laxative properties because it also neutralizes your stomach acids) and that's baaad because I do NOT want to drag myself to the bathroom every 15 minutes.

Damn this shit.
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research DMSO please , this will help you hf
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Woke me up at 2am. All swollen and red.

No I did not twist it - it is gout for sure.

Question is why now - have not had a problem with gout for years and up till now only in the toes and feet.

5% mobility - fricking excruciating.

You should have seen me snaking myself to my desk this morning. Took 30 minutes.

Anyway I just wanted to see if anyone has had gout in their knee before and what the quickest way to relief is?

Colchicina and cherries (have the first but it has laxative properties because it also neutralizes your stomach acids) and that's baaad because I do NOT want to drag myself to the bathroom every 15 minutes.

Damn this shit.
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the longer you have it, the more joints it spreads to. I feel your pain literally.
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I just had it & it started right after eating fudge I was given as a gift. I felt it in my ankle & soon was in my big toe. Couldn't walk w/o crutches, drank lots of water, & avoided sugar & acids & it was gone in about a week. Gout sucks.
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Sorry to hear. Anyone who has not experienced the pain of gout cannot imagine how bad it is.

I could not regulate it without allopurinol, 100mg/day which works like a champ for 15 years now. However, I can still flare if not careful to hydrate and avoid certain foods.

Only time I had it in my knee, I was on a ski trip and ate a fair amount of red meat, shellfish, coupled with beers and skiing which I dont do often. Knee woke me in the middle of the night, red hot, throbbing pain, and I could not put it in a position to get relief.

Generally, I can eat whatever I want in moderation, even scallops, lobster, steak, etc. However, if I eat EGGPLANT this is a guaranteed flare for me. So OP, maybe there is some obscure food you ate that triggered it? Or you had a slight twist of the knee, banged it on something, or stepped on it wrong and thought nothing of it?

Lots of good advice in this thread, good luck and hopefully by now the worst is past.
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Sorry to hear. Anyone who has not experienced the pain of gout cannot imagine how bad it is.

I could not regulate it without allopurinol, 100mg/day which works like a champ for 15 years now. However, I can still flare if not careful to hydrate and avoid certain foods.

Only time I had it in my knee, I was on a ski trip and ate a fair amount of red meat, shellfish, coupled with beers and skiing which I dont do often. Knee woke me in the middle of the night, red hot, throbbing pain, and I could not put it in a position to get relief.

Generally, I can eat whatever I want in moderation, even scallops, lobster, steak, etc. However, if I eat EGGPLANT this is a guaranteed flare for me. So OP, maybe there is some obscure food you ate that triggered it? Or you had a slight twist of the knee, banged it on something, or stepped on it wrong and thought nothing of it?

Lots of good advice in this thread, good luck and hopefully by now the worst is past.
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it's probably the lectins in the eggplant that are responsible
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Re: I swear I did not have purine rich foods nor alcohol this past week and now I have goddamned gout in my goddamned left knee.
Sorry to hear. Anyone who has not experienced the pain of gout cannot imagine how bad it is.

I could not regulate it without allopurinol, 100mg/day which works like a champ for 15 years now. However, I can still flare if not careful to hydrate and avoid certain foods.

Only time I had it in my knee, I was on a ski trip and ate a fair amount of red meat, shellfish, coupled with beers and skiing which I dont do often. Knee woke me in the middle of the night, red hot, throbbing pain, and I could not put it in a position to get relief.

Generally, I can eat whatever I want in moderation, even scallops, lobster, steak, etc. However, if I eat EGGPLANT this is a guaranteed flare for me. So OP, maybe there is some obscure food you ate that triggered it? Or you had a slight twist of the knee, banged it on something, or stepped on it wrong and thought nothing of it?

Lots of good advice in this thread, good luck and hopefully by now the worst is past.
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it's probably the lectins in the eggplant that are responsible
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ignore that nih link, it refers to something else.
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Same thing happened to me, turned out to be gluten.
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Sorry to hear. Anyone who has not experienced the pain of gout cannot imagine how bad it is.

I could not regulate it without allopurinol, 100mg/day which works like a champ for 15 years now. However, I can still flare if not careful to hydrate and avoid certain foods.

Only time I had it in my knee, I was on a ski trip and ate a fair amount of red meat, shellfish, coupled with beers and skiing which I dont do often. Knee woke me in the middle of the night, red hot, throbbing pain, and I could not put it in a position to get relief.

Generally, I can eat whatever I want in moderation, even scallops, lobster, steak, etc. However, if I eat EGGPLANT this is a guaranteed flare for me. So OP, maybe there is some obscure food you ate that triggered it? Or you had a slight twist of the knee, banged it on something, or stepped on it wrong and thought nothing of it?

Lots of good advice in this thread, good luck and hopefully by now the worst is past.
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Come to think of it I did slip on the bottom step coming down the stairs at my parents house, but it was not painful just a sudden jerk which launched me forward so I had to stretch my arms out to the opposing wall not to lose my balance. But that was Sunday afternoon and there was no pain or anything. This all started last night so more than 24 hours later.

As far as hydration I drink around 3 liters of water a day so for the life of me I cannot fathom why I would be dehydrated.. Well I do have a reverse osmosis system to filter the tap water maybe that has long term undesirable effects.

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Ice will dial back the pain some. Not curative but can provide a bit of temporary relief.
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Dehydration kicks it off for me.

I take a level tsp of sodium bicarb in a shot of lemon juice or ACV, top the glass with water. Works within the hour, at least to stop the burning sensation, the inflammation will subside.
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THIS. you can get gout just from being dehydrated.


More: water, electrolytes, fiber.
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Sorry to hear. Anyone who has not experienced the pain of gout cannot imagine how bad it is.

I could not regulate it without allopurinol, 100mg/day which works like a champ for 15 years now. However, I can still flare if not careful to hydrate and avoid certain foods.

Only time I had it in my knee, I was on a ski trip and ate a fair amount of red meat, shellfish, coupled with beers and skiing which I dont do often. Knee woke me in the middle of the night, red hot, throbbing pain, and I could not put it in a position to get relief.

Generally, I can eat whatever I want in moderation, even scallops, lobster, steak, etc. However, if I eat EGGPLANT this is a guaranteed flare for me. So OP, maybe there is some obscure food you ate that triggered it? Or you had a slight twist of the knee, banged it on something, or stepped on it wrong and thought nothing of it?

Lots of good advice in this thread, good luck and hopefully by now the worst is past.
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Come to think of it I did slip on the bottom step coming down the stairs at my parents house, but it was not painful just a sudden jerk which launched me forward so I had to stretch my arms out to the opposing wall not to lose my balance. But that was Sunday afternoon and there was no pain or anything. This all started last night so more than 24 hours later.

As far as hydration I drink around 3 liters of water a day so for the life of me I cannot fathom why I would be dehydrated.. Well I do have a reverse osmosis system to filter the tap water maybe that has long term undesirable effects.
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RO water will worsen gout flare ups of you're already deficient in minerals.

RO water isn't very good for you.
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Sorry to hear. Anyone who has not experienced the pain of gout cannot imagine how bad it is.

I could not regulate it without allopurinol, 100mg/day which works like a champ for 15 years now. However, I can still flare if not careful to hydrate and avoid certain foods.

Only time I had it in my knee, I was on a ski trip and ate a fair amount of red meat, shellfish, coupled with beers and skiing which I dont do often. Knee woke me in the middle of the night, red hot, throbbing pain, and I could not put it in a position to get relief.

Generally, I can eat whatever I want in moderation, even scallops, lobster, steak, etc. However, if I eat EGGPLANT this is a guaranteed flare for me. So OP, maybe there is some obscure food you ate that triggered it? Or you had a slight twist of the knee, banged it on something, or stepped on it wrong and thought nothing of it?

Lots of good advice in this thread, good luck and hopefully by now the worst is past.
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Come to think of it I did slip on the bottom step coming down the stairs at my parents house, but it was not painful just a sudden jerk which launched me forward so I had to stretch my arms out to the opposing wall not to lose my balance. But that was Sunday afternoon and there was no pain or anything. This all started last night so more than 24 hours later.

As far as hydration I drink around 3 liters of water a day so for the life of me I cannot fathom why I would be dehydrated.. Well I do have a reverse osmosis system to filter the tap water maybe that has long term undesirable effects.
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If you drink RO water all the time, you're very likely deficient in magnesium, calcium, zinc, and potassium. These deficiencies can cause gout symptoms.
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High Fructose Corn Syrup will cause gout also. Lithium Orotate is very helpful. It causes uric acid in your blood to remain soluable and unable to crystalize. It has saved me many times when I ate/drank something that I shouldn't and felt my feet and ankles swelling up. After you have gout, it may be too late to use lithium. You may have to let it run uts course now. Lithium is a mineral not a drug. I am not a medical doctor and am not giving medical advise.
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Sorry to hear. Anyone who has not experienced the pain of gout cannot imagine how bad it is.

I could not regulate it without allopurinol, 100mg/day which works like a champ for 15 years now. However, I can still flare if not careful to hydrate and avoid certain foods.

Only time I had it in my knee, I was on a ski trip and ate a fair amount of red meat, shellfish, coupled with beers and skiing which I dont do often. Knee woke me in the middle of the night, red hot, throbbing pain, and I could not put it in a position to get relief.

Generally, I can eat whatever I want in moderation, even scallops, lobster, steak, etc. However, if I eat EGGPLANT this is a guaranteed flare for me. So OP, maybe there is some obscure food you ate that triggered it? Or you had a slight twist of the knee, banged it on something, or stepped on it wrong and thought nothing of it?

Lots of good advice in this thread, good luck and hopefully by now the worst is past.
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Come to think of it I did slip on the bottom step coming down the stairs at my parents house, but it was not painful just a sudden jerk which launched me forward so I had to stretch my arms out to the opposing wall not to lose my balance. But that was Sunday afternoon and there was no pain or anything. This all started last night so more than 24 hours later.

As far as hydration I drink around 3 liters of water a day so for the life of me I cannot fathom why I would be dehydrated.. Well I do have a reverse osmosis system to filter the tap water maybe that has long term undesirable effects.
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If you drink RO water all the time, you're very likely deficient in magnesium, calcium, zinc, and potassium. These deficiencies can cause gout symptoms.
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Things starting to make sense now. Gonna take out the RO membrane tomorrow.

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Re: I swear I did not have purine rich foods nor alcohol this past week and now I have goddamned gout in my goddamned left knee.
UPDATE: Received and started on the tart cherry today. Taking 2000mg/day.

I also removed the reverse osmosis filter and have only been using the particle filters and carbon filter for a month now.

I must say I feel much better. I bet drinking only RO water for months kicked it off (started in September last year using it). This has been quite an eye opener for me with regards of RO.

I'll use the concentrated cherry extract for a while and do some updates if anything changes.

For now I am pain free and mobility is fine. Thanks again for the tips - it really helped.
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Re: I swear I did not have purine rich foods nor alcohol this past week and now I have goddamned gout in my goddamned left knee.
Indomethacin 50mg green capsule.

Get a bottle of it. Just one pill will arrest it, I promise, within 20-30 minutes too.
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Re: I swear I did not have purine rich foods nor alcohol this past week and now I have goddamned gout in my goddamned left knee.
You need to have half a fresh lemon squeezed into water every morning. Then you won't get gout.
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Re: I swear I did not have purine rich foods nor alcohol this past week and now I have goddamned gout in my goddamned left knee.
UPDATE: Received and started on the tart cherry today. Taking 2000mg/day.

I also removed the reverse osmosis filter and have only been using the particle filters and carbon filter for a month now.

I must say I feel much better. I bet drinking only RO water for months kicked it off (started in September last year using it). This has been quite an eye opener for me with regards of RO.

I'll use the concentrated cherry extract for a while and do some updates if anything changes.

For now I am pain free and mobility is fine. Thanks again for the tips - it really helped.
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You can add a remineralizer to your RO. We did and the water taste great.
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Re: I swear I did not have purine rich foods nor alcohol this past week and now I have goddamned gout in my goddamned left knee.
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Re: I swear I did not have purine rich foods nor alcohol this past week and now I have goddamned gout in my goddamned left knee.
kombucha instead of laxatives

laxatives add acid to your system

your corrosive bro

you need yin foods

un cooked foods, until your healthy

then. just eat home cook foods, whatever- just eat light amounts,

if you go big for breakfast, go small on dinner, n lunch

if Christmas coming up, fast. till then so you can go big

I swear all my health problems went away after I adjusted my amounts, I eat half the amount I use to, I didn't even change what I ate

and I noticed a huge health change for the better,

its all about the amount bro





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