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What Are Putin Objectives In Ukraine

 
Dogsbollocks

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04/14/2022 12:13 PM

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From where I am sitting it is hard to figure out.

Ukraine refuses to back down on its plans to join NATO.

Russian military forces thus invade from a number of locations.

Russians send an advanced military party onwards to Kiev. In the mistaken belief they will be accepted as liberators.

Far from being welcomed, they are forced to hastily retreat.

The Russian invasion becomes an un-mitigating disaster.

The Russian material loses are astonishing, fleeing Russian troops leave State of the art equipment to be shipped West to be reversed engineered.

Putin recalls FSB Spies/Generals to Moscow replaces them, And throws some in Prison.

The Russian invasion becomes nothing more than trying to save face by holding on to Rebel held territory Donbass/DPR.

This is going on whilst US/NATO are providing Anti-Tank/Ship Missiles and providing real time intelligence on Russian Troop movements to kill them.

When the Moskva was hit yesterday there was a US P8 circling above just 70 kilometers away.

What is Putin hoping to achieve in a war against Ukraine, Whilst ignoring the huge US/NATO Elephant in the room.

It makes no sense to me.

Russia is haemoroging Troops/equipment to US/NATO via its Ukrainian proxy.

Yet Putin it appears is too scared to even attack US/NATO Weapons shipments.

One has to seriously question Putin sanity, quite possibly his intentions at this point.

I don't see the point of this war. With Russian technology seemingly beyond useless. And Russian troops being targeted by US/NATO intelligence gathering .And killed with US/NATO provided equipment.
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The Russian invasion of Ukraine has turned in a complete disaster.

Far from stopping Ukraine join NATO.

The Russians will be lucky to hang on to DPR/Donbass.

They also have Kaliningrad blockaded from Sea/Air.

Sweden/Finland/Ukraine joining NATO.

And the Russian military has become and international joke. Having previously been feared by the West.

What a complete fuck up.

i have serious suspicions that Putin is not acting in Russia best interests.

He is a hapless fool
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US funded level 4 & above biolabs & literal Nazi's.

If you look at what Putin is doing through that set of goggles, it makes a LOT more sense.
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04/14/2022 12:39 PM

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Bio labs and Nazis.

That's all they got.


At this point there is no possible gain for Russia to continue this war. They have isolated themselves unlike any country since WWII. They have lost thousands of soldiers. Their economy is tanking with little hope of anything but a long-term improvement. Ukrainians will never welcome them after all of the war crimes so taking over the country is senseless---and Ukrainian infrastructure is in shambles.

There is simply no win or benefit for Russia at this point to continue this war.

Except for:

1. Putin's ego.

That's it..that's the list.

Kill Putin's ego, end the war.
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they baited Putin and he and his ego fell for it.

now he's fucked
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Bio labs and Nazis.

That's all they got.


At this point there is no possible gain for Russia to continue this war. They have isolated themselves unlike any country since WWII. They have lost thousands of soldiers. Their economy is tanking with little hope of anything but a long-term improvement. Ukrainians will never welcome them after all of the war crimes so taking over the country is senseless---and Ukrainian infrastructure is in shambles.

There is simply no win or benefit for Russia at this point to continue this war.

Except for:

1. Putin's ego.

That's it..that's the list.

Kill Putin's ego, end the war.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


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Re: What Are Putin Objectives In Ukraine
The Russian invasion of Ukraine has turned in a complete disaster.

Far from stopping Ukraine join NATO.

The Russians will be lucky to hang on to DPR/Donbass.

They also have Kaliningrad blockaded from Sea/Air.

Sweden/Finland/Ukraine joining NATO.

And the Russian military has become and international joke. Having previously been feared by the West.

What a complete fuck up.

i have serious suspicions that Putin is not acting in Russia best interests.

He is a hapless fool
 Quoting: Dogsbollocks


I'd go with hapless.

A leader of actual NAZIS is now admired and adored.
Several additional countries are now considering joining NATO.
Eastern Europe's wheat fields are a war zone.


Yeah, this is fine. No pattern developing at all.
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Genocide

Resource theft
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Putin's objectives seems to be having as many soldiers killed as possible and also having trillion of Ruble worth of hardware such as planes, drones, armor, artillery, missile launchers, and trucks lost, destroyed, surrendered or sold to the Ukrainians. His plan is working.
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04/14/2022 12:54 PM

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US funded level 4 & above biolabs & literal Nazi's.

If you look at what Putin is doing through that set of goggles, it makes a LOT more sense.
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Good point.

I think I read that those Bio-Labs, and an imminent Crimea invasion was part of the reason.

Still no idea what Putin hopes to achieve long term.

From where i am sitting all he as done is poke a US/NATO Hornets Nest, and invite them in to Ukraine enmass. Whilst retreating to pretty much 2015 positions in the East.
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Re: What Are Putin Objectives In Ukraine
Bio labs and Nazis.

That's all they got.


At this point there is no possible gain for Russia to continue this war. They have isolated themselves unlike any country since WWII. They have lost thousands of soldiers. Their economy is tanking with little hope of anything but a long-term improvement. Ukrainians will never welcome them after all of the war crimes so taking over the country is senseless---and Ukrainian infrastructure is in shambles.

There is simply no win or benefit for Russia at this point to continue this war.

Except for:

1. Putin's ego.

That's it..that's the list.

Kill Putin's ego, end the war.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


Got to agree with that.

A lot of pain for no gain.

Putin would be better off reaching out directly to united States and agreeing to their terms at this point. The situation is that bad right now for Russia.

I am really surprised Putin let US/NATO fight Russia on their own terms via proxy in Ukraine.

The unprecedented economic sanctions, and asset seizing it was obvious US/NATO was the Organ Grinder and Ukraine the dancing Monkey.

It was like Putin had no real going in plan, and no exit strategy.

Just stupidly like a fool walked in to the US/NATO Ukraine meat grinder.

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Putin's objectives seems to be having as many soldiers killed as possible and also having trillion of Ruble worth of hardware such as planes, drones, armor, artillery, missile launchers, and trucks lost, destroyed, surrendered or sold to the Ukrainians. His plan is working.
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And this is the very reason I question who Putin really is.

The uwish convert to Orthodox Christianity,. With a background story eerily similar to the life struggles of the Young Obama.like Obama all who had dirt now dead Almost like both of them are CIA.

I mean how does a low level KGB operative in east Germany become a billionaire ?
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Some things were obvious goals even before the war:
-Gain a land bridge to Crimea
-Incorporate as much of former Ukraine into Russia as possible
-Grab the rich resources in eastern Crimea
-Secure Russia's border with Ukraine, (inc. preventing nuclear missiles in Ukraine)
-Test NATO's response to Russian expansion
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04/14/2022 01:32 PM

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This might give everyone a little background about what is REALLY happening in the Ukraine. All the links are active & I found it very interesting.

Voltaire network founded by French intellectual Thierry Meyssan, Voltaire Network International is a web of non-aligned press groups dedicated to the analysis of international relations.

My link is banned on GLP. Sad! Network.org with Voltaire prior to network.

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