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Why is everyone content with feeling like they've already died, and living in a dead society with no hope or future?

 
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Unsure it’s a bit liberating. I am of the opinion we will all die in a few months time so why not try things you have not done before. I was a hard core prepper at one time but feel that I do not want to live in “The Road” world.

My wife is really agitated by the whole thing and is near suicidal. We don’t have kids because I thought the American way of life will go the way of the Dodo birds. Didn’t know the exact mechanism back then but believed the world would no longer finance our lifestyle eventually.

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Wise decision

The only thing that brings joy to me is my 3 year old

But then...it terrifies me the world he will grow up in wont be like mine. Picnics, block parties, board game nights,being able to walk to school alone


None of that is even real anymore and if it is it isnt sober and its ghetto
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Re: Why is everyone content with feeling like they've already died, and living in a dead society with no hope or future?
Yep. I'm beyond done with this clown world.
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We left clown world years ago.

Clown world was funny. You sat back and laughed because you were still a majority. None of this affected you at all.

We moved into demon world sometime in 2020

It's no longer funny, it's now in your face. And the the policy of containment is no longer valid, you have to isolate from the culture now
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They know we are living in a communist european country.You voted for them all your life.
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Re: Why is everyone content with feeling like they've already died, and living in a dead society with no hope or future?
I have seriously polled at least 60 people on this very thing (all white) ….Truthfully, at least 50 of them said that it is because of the kneecgrowes ruining everything! They all have the best memories of things before the tragic knicgurr infestations, and distribution of the vile walking turds by anti-white, anti-christ obammygro and his like-minded posse!!!
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Re: Why is everyone content with feeling like they've already died, and living in a dead society with no hope or future?
If you get what I'm saying, I don't need to explain any further.

Do you want to be here anymore, at all? I don't.
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This is beyond unhealthy. I like godlike bc it’s in alternative viewpoint but you guys are depressing. You are creating and living in your own version of hell. This is a sign of deteriorating mental health. Lay off the doom porn and do things like being of service to others or just communicating with people without bringing up politics. You’ll find the world isn’t as bad as you think. Sometimes I wish we had temporary time machines to take a glimpse into the past so we can be grateful for where we live today.
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Re: Why is everyone content with feeling like they've already died, and living in a dead society with no hope or future?
Because they're looking for a hero to follow. They had one kind of in Trump. But without somebody willing to step up to the plate to challenge these scumbags it'll continue. They feel unstoppable.
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Re: Why is everyone content with feeling like they've already died, and living in a dead society with no hope or future?
I feel pretty good about it... For me I only really care about getting a spaceship and living for an insane amount of time...

I understand what is going on around me. But I am only one man. And in such I can only deal with so much. Which is me and mine. And I got that.

And look on the bright side... Any time a country does this pain follows.... and a renewal happens

Just look at Rome....IT is still there... Rome NEVER fell
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If you get what I'm saying, I don't need to explain any further.

Do you want to be here anymore, at all? I don't.
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This is beyond unhealthy. I like godlike bc it’s in alternative viewpoint but you guys are depressing. You are creating and living in your own version of hell. This is a sign of deteriorating mental health. Lay off the doom porn and do things like being of service to others or just communicating with people without bringing up politics. You’ll find the world isn’t as bad as you think. Sometimes I wish we had temporary time machines to take a glimpse into the past so we can be grateful for where we live today.
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No it's not dude

Right now there are protests in every major city and alot of them have knives stabbing baby dolls in the head and squirting blood

Everyday people are being brutally assaulted more and more for disagreeing with any leftist narratives

It's not us. You are ignoring the problem
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Re: Why is everyone content with feeling like they've already died, and living in a dead society with no hope or future?
If you get what I'm saying, I don't need to explain any further.

Do you want to be here anymore, at all? I don't.
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I'm fully alive and want to continue. Society, however, is pretty well effed, and I'll continue to withdraw from it or find a better one. I didn't cause these social problems and it's not my job to solve them.

I was talking with a European immigrant while we were waiting at the car repair shop. He said US society (which he came to, leaving his old country) will recover. The guys with the guns, or the patriots, or whatever were going to save it and it would be better than ever.

I said nah and was thinking internally, why should they? They didn't cause these problems, they don't owe him anything. They don't owe him the America he dreamed of.
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If you get what I'm saying, I don't need to explain any further.

Do you want to be here anymore, at all? I don't.
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Because things are ramping up/down for the final 7 years of this earth. It will get worse and prayer can delay things and mitigate damage to loved ones, but this world is going to end n about 8 years from now and no one can stop it. Some of the evil you see must happen as foretold in the Bible and no one can stop it until the judgment on the earth has been completed. My goal going forward is to stay alive as long as I can to help bring people to Jesus. That's the only hope anyone has.
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If you get what I'm saying, I don't need to explain any further.

Do you want to be here anymore, at all? I don't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80417262


This is beyond unhealthy. I like godlike bc it’s in alternative viewpoint but you guys are depressing. You are creating and living in your own version of hell. This is a sign of deteriorating mental health. Lay off the doom porn and do things like being of service to others or just communicating with people without bringing up politics. You’ll find the world isn’t as bad as you think. Sometimes I wish we had temporary time machines to take a glimpse into the past so we can be grateful for where we live today.
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No it's not dude

Right now there are protests in every major city and alot of them have knives stabbing baby dolls in the head and squirting blood

Everyday people are being brutally assaulted more and more for disagreeing with any leftist narratives

It's not us. You are ignoring the problem
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If you turn off social media and just look out your window. Is any of that happening? This is not happening everywhere. It is happening in isolated locations and broadcast to the world. You are falling into the trap.
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Re: Why is everyone content with feeling like they've already died, and living in a dead society with no hope or future?
Because they're looking for a hero to follow. They had one kind of in Trump. But without somebody willing to step up to the plate to challenge these scumbags it'll continue. They feel unstoppable.
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That's why Trump got mad support. I supported him. But it turned out he was largely yet another bait-and-switch. Oh well it's not the first time.

I'd prefer DeSantis and will vote for him if he runs. Do I think he'll be the savior? I certainly don't expect that. I have some duty to vote for the best for the country when I vote. But it doesn't mean I have any expectations.
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Re: Why is everyone content with feeling like they've already died, and living in a dead society with no hope or future?
It's the floride, prozac, booze, vaccines, weed, oxy, fentynal cocain, etc etc...

Also computer games and the general dumbing down of society.

"Everybody will be happy and have nothing"

Klaus Schwab
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I take none of those and I don’t even drink

Never was into computer games either
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IT IS THE DIEVERSHITY!!! Ponder this FACT….steps must be taken to correct this!!! God put us on this earth, in different places for a reason,,,,this forced integration, and artificially trying to force very different “people” into our society DOES NOT PROMOTE GOOD THINGS!
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Re: Why is everyone content with feeling like they've already died, and living in a dead society with no hope or future?
Two things-

My hope is in Jesus.

Also, we really don't have any control over 99% of what we read here- politics, the economy, disease, etc... so why let it make you upset? The only control we really have is how we react, our own attitudes.

There is still love and goodness to be found. What do you focus on? That's what you'll find.

It's hard. Jesus told us we would have tribulation, but be of good cheer, He has overcome the world.

hf
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They're doing something to us.

Is it frequencies or microwaves? CERN? What is it?

These last few months have felt worse and more disorienting than anything 2020 or 2021 had to offer.

Almost feels like gravity has increased. Sucking the life out of me. I'm just sitting here after doing all I had to do today, and feeling incapacitated. Like, no desire to do anything, or engage myself with anything to do with this world. Complete anhedonia and sense of futility regarding everything.

I find myself in silent prayer more often lately. Just asking God to destroy everything. Asking Jesus to come back. This is my reality.
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Same feelings here!
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They're doing something to us.

Is it frequencies or microwaves? CERN? What is it?

These last few months have felt worse and more disorienting than anything 2020 or 2021 had to offer.

Almost feels like gravity has increased. Sucking the life out of me. I'm just sitting here after doing all I had to do today, and feeling incapacitated. Like, no desire to do anything, or engage myself with anything to do with this world. Complete anhedonia and sense of futility regarding everything.

I find myself in silent prayer more often lately. Just asking God to destroy everything. Asking Jesus to come back. This is my reality.
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I am EXACTLY the same

I have ZERO get up and go/motivation now.

Feel dead inside and almost no will to live.

I’m sure something has shifted, been turned on or cranked the fuck up
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yeah pretty much aye, beep boop beep.. locked in the matrix.
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IT'S CALLED DEMORALIZATION PROPAGANDA, YOU WEAK FOOLS.

THEY USE IT ON YOU UNTIL YOU REACH THE BREAKING POINT, AT WHICH TIME, THEY UNLEASH THEIR NEW SYSTEM UPON YOU.

THIS NEW SYSTEM IS EUPHORIA.

AT LEAST AT FIRST.

THEN IT BECOMES HELL ON EARTH.

DO NOT GIVE IN TO YOUR LETHARGY AND APATHY.

WHEN YOU'RE AT YOUR WEAKEST, THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE TO FIGHT THE HARDEST.

THESE SATANIC BEASTS WILL BE EXTERMINATED IN THE END.

ALL OF THEM.

THEY KNOW THIS, AND SO THEY ARE DESPERATELY TRYING TO DRAG AS MANY PEOPLE DOWN WITH THEM.

WAKE UP, THIS ISN'T A GAME.

IT'S WAR.

SPIRITUAL WAR.
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Re: Why is everyone content with feeling like they've already died, and living in a dead society with no hope or future?
Because we die every night our body goes to sleep

When our mind is in a whole different realm

Stay woke tho

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If you get what I'm saying, I don't need to explain any further.

Do you want to be here anymore, at all? I don't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80417262


This is beyond unhealthy. I like godlike bc it’s in alternative viewpoint but you guys are depressing. You are creating and living in your own version of hell. This is a sign of deteriorating mental health. Lay off the doom porn and do things like being of service to others or just communicating with people without bringing up politics. You’ll find the world isn’t as bad as you think. Sometimes I wish we had temporary time machines to take a glimpse into the past so we can be grateful for where we live today.
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No it's not dude

Right now there are protests in every major city and alot of them have knives stabbing baby dolls in the head and squirting blood

Everyday people are being brutally assaulted more and more for disagreeing with any leftist narratives

It's not us. You are ignoring the problem
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82889229


If you turn off social media and just look out your window. Is any of that happening? This is not happening everywhere. It is happening in isolated locations and broadcast to the world. You are falling into the trap.
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"Just because it's not happening in my irrelevant dieing no name town I dont need to worry"

You are part of the problem. People like you are the problem and why this has gotten so bad.

Dont worry. It may take awhile but it will be in your face soon enough
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Re: Why is everyone content with feeling like they've already died, and living in a dead society with no hope or future?
Unsure it’s a bit liberating. I am of the opinion we will all die in a few months time so why not try things you have not done before. I was a hard core prepper at one time but feel that I do not want to live in “The Road” world.

My wife is really agitated by the whole thing and is near suicidal. We don’t have kids because I thought the American way of life will go the way of the Dodo birds. Didn’t know the exact mechanism back then but believed the world would no longer finance our lifestyle eventually.

Remember, Tomorrow is promised to no one.
—Walter Payton
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Wise decision

The only thing that brings joy to me is my 3 year old

But then...it terrifies me the world he will grow up in wont be like mine. Picnics, block parties, board game nights,being able to walk to school alone


None of that is even real anymore and if it is it isnt sober and its ghetto
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Forced dievershity with blacks destroyed all this you described! And the correct r-wird is Realist!!!
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Re: Why is everyone content with feeling like they've already died, and living in a dead society with no hope or future?
It's the floride, prozac, booze, vaccines, weed, oxy, fentynal cocain, etc etc...

Also computer games and the general dumbing down of society.

"Everybody will be happy and have nothing"

Klaus Schwab
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I take none of those and I don’t even drink

Never was into computer games either
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IT IS THE DIEVERSHITY!!! Ponder this FACT….steps must be taken to correct this!!! God put us on this earth, in different places for a reason,,,,this forced integration, and artificially trying to force very different “people” into our society DOES NOT PROMOTE GOOD THINGS!
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Can't correct it here in the USA. I'd encourage white people to have babies, it is after all the first commandment in the Bible, but Biden's going to ensure a never ending flow of nonwhite people, and preferentially give them influential positions. This sort of thing is embedded in the legal system and promoted by trillion dollar worldwide corporations and agendas.

Don't try too hard to save the country or get too wrapped up about it. Save yourself and those you care about.
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IT'S CALLED DEMORALIZATION PROPAGANDA, YOU WEAK FOOLS.

THEY USE IT ON YOU UNTIL YOU REACH THE BREAKING POINT, AT WHICH TIME, THEY UNLEASH THEIR NEW SYSTEM UPON YOU.

THIS NEW SYSTEM IS EUPHORIA.

AT LEAST AT FIRST.

THEN IT BECOMES HELL ON EARTH.

DO NOT GIVE IN TO YOUR LETHARGY AND APATHY.

WHEN YOU'RE AT YOUR WEAKEST, THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE TO FIGHT THE HARDEST.

THESE SATANIC BEASTS WILL BE EXTERMINATED IN THE END.

ALL OF THEM.

THEY KNOW THIS, AND SO THEY ARE DESPERATELY TRYING TO DRAG AS MANY PEOPLE DOWN WITH THEM.

WAKE UP, THIS ISN'T A GAME.

IT'S WAR.

SPIRITUAL WAR.
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AND TO CLARIFY, YES, I ALSO FEEL LIKE SHIT MOST OF THE TIME.

I FEEL LIKE SHIT NOW.

I HAVE CLOSE TO ZERO MOTIVATION.

BUT I AM STILL GOING, AND I WILL NEVER GIVE UP.

DO NOT WAIT FOR A GOOD FEELING OR SOMETHING SUPERNATURAL TO PICK YOU UP.

IT WON'T HAPPEN.

YOU ABSOLUTELY MUST KEEP GOING AGAINST THE WAVES.

IF YOU GIVE UP, IT'S OVER.
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This is beyond unhealthy. I like godlike bc it’s in alternative viewpoint but you guys are depressing. You are creating and living in your own version of hell. This is a sign of deteriorating mental health. Lay off the doom porn and do things like being of service to others or just communicating with people without bringing up politics. You’ll find the world isn’t as bad as you think. Sometimes I wish we had temporary time machines to take a glimpse into the past so we can be grateful for where we live today.
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No it's not dude

Right now there are protests in every major city and alot of them have knives stabbing baby dolls in the head and squirting blood

Everyday people are being brutally assaulted more and more for disagreeing with any leftist narratives

It's not us. You are ignoring the problem
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82889229


If you turn off social media and just look out your window. Is any of that happening? This is not happening everywhere. It is happening in isolated locations and broadcast to the world. You are falling into the trap.
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"Just because it's not happening in my irrelevant dieing no name town I dont need to worry"

You are part of the problem. People like you are the problem and why this has gotten so bad.

Dont worry. It may take awhile but it will be in your face soon enough
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Yup this is textbook apathy and denial.
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This is beyond unhealthy. I like godlike bc it’s in alternative viewpoint but you guys are depressing. You are creating and living in your own version of hell. This is a sign of deteriorating mental health. Lay off the doom porn and do things like being of service to others or just communicating with people without bringing up politics. You’ll find the world isn’t as bad as you think. Sometimes I wish we had temporary time machines to take a glimpse into the past so we can be grateful for where we live today.
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No it's not dude

Right now there are protests in every major city and alot of them have knives stabbing baby dolls in the head and squirting blood

Everyday people are being brutally assaulted more and more for disagreeing with any leftist narratives

It's not us. You are ignoring the problem
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82889229


If you turn off social media and just look out your window. Is any of that happening? This is not happening everywhere. It is happening in isolated locations and broadcast to the world. You are falling into the trap.
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"Just because it's not happening in my irrelevant dieing no name town I dont need to worry"

You are part of the problem. People like you are the problem and why this has gotten so bad.

Dont worry. It may take awhile but it will be in your face soon enough
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82889229


I am advocating that everyone let themselves be part of the problem. Especially in Canada from what I've seen, trying to be a part of the solution is just a way to get used by Trudeau and his New Canadians. You don't owe them any solutions, let them go without your productivity to the degree possible.
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Re: Why is everyone content with feeling like they've already died, and living in a dead society with no hope or future?
Unsure it’s a bit liberating. I am of the opinion we will all die in a few months time so why not try things you have not done before. I was a hard core prepper at one time but feel that I do not want to live in “The Road” world.

My wife is really agitated by the whole thing and is near suicidal. We don’t have kids because I thought the American way of life will go the way of the Dodo birds. Didn’t know the exact mechanism back then but believed the world would no longer finance our lifestyle eventually.

Remember, Tomorrow is promised to no one.
—Walter Payton
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79793927


Wise decision

The only thing that brings joy to me is my 3 year old

But then...it terrifies me the world he will grow up in wont be like mine. Picnics, block parties, board game nights,being able to walk to school alone


None of that is even real anymore and if it is it isnt sober and its ghetto
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Forced dievershity with blacks destroyed all this you described! And the correct r-wird is Realist!!!
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Things WERE euphoric , pre 1960’s! And that wonderful blip during the 80’s!
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So true, for months now I cant get myself to start new projects. It really feels like there wont be a tomorrow.
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If you get what I'm saying, I don't need to explain any further.

Do you want to be here anymore, at all? I don't.
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Since we think we know that 74 million Americans did not take the Jab.

Since we think we know that 157 million Americans only took 1 Jab.

Since we think we know that 154 million people took 3 shots.


Then we are expecting that most people will be sick and many may pass on.

I think people are making plans for the worst outcome, based on what we have already seen, and what we think we know.
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Feel dead inside and almost no will to live.
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Yep, and for me, those are my GOOD days... seriously.
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Forced integration with non-whites IS the tragically fundamental PROBLEM!
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This is beyond unhealthy. I like godlike bc it’s in alternative viewpoint but you guys are depressing. You are creating and living in your own version of hell. This is a sign of deteriorating mental health. Lay off the doom porn and do things like being of service to others or just communicating with people without bringing up politics. You’ll find the world isn’t as bad as you think. Sometimes I wish we had temporary time machines to take a glimpse into the past so we can be grateful for where we live today.
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No it's not dude

Right now there are protests in every major city and alot of them have knives stabbing baby dolls in the head and squirting blood

Everyday people are being brutally assaulted more and more for disagreeing with any leftist narratives

It's not us. You are ignoring the problem
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82889229


If you turn off social media and just look out your window. Is any of that happening? This is not happening everywhere. It is happening in isolated locations and broadcast to the world. You are falling into the trap.
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"Just because it's not happening in my irrelevant dieing no name town I dont need to worry"

You are part of the problem. People like you are the problem and why this has gotten so bad.

Dont worry. It may take awhile but it will be in your face soon enough
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82889229


Full disclosure. When Loose Change came out about 17 years ago it rocked my world. I was exactly where you are. I needed to tell everybody for the next decade exactly what was going. The evil in the world. The hopelessness of our future unless we all revolt. It was depressing. It was draining. It was a hopeless feeling.
And I still believe all of those things today except I don’t look at the world anymore for what is wrong with it. What others are doing doesn’t define me anymore. I didn’t succumb to their programming. I just choose not to let it define my reality or my kids.

I get it. If you give up hope they win. You can’t change the crazy people and what they do. But you can change yourself and how you let them affect you. I’m sure this will enrage you and you’ll call me a puppet or complicit or naive. I would’ve said the same thing. But I also won’t live in your reality of hopelessness and misery. I’ll live in mine whether you like it or not. And I’ll raise my kids to not fal for the misery trap either.





GLP