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The Great Tribulation is Not Wrath - Rapture End Times - KJV Bible Study

 
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1. According to Revelation 6, the first 5 Seals are not "judgements" / wrath.

Revelation 6:9 - 10

9 And when he had opened the fifth
seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

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2. In Revelation 7, after the 6th Seal has been opened, we see an angel descend with the 'seal of God', which will be used to mark the foreheads of the 144,000 from the 12 tri-***clans***-bes.

It's easy to argue that these are Messianic Believers, and they need to be 'sealed' BEFORE Wrath can begin.


Revelation 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

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3. Wrath is mentioned as part of the 6th Seal in Revelation 6.

Revelation 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Lall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


none of the above is truth either.
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Wow!

What an incredibly astute and intelligent refutation of Scripture.

You must be proud of yourself.
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"The Great Tribulation" is Satan's wrath, not God's.
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NONSENSE.

Thread: Fear Not - Endure Until the End - Post-Trib Rapture - KJV Bible Study

Thread: THERE WILL BE NO PRE TRIB RAPTURE..here is why..IF you have the guts to read it.

Thread: After the Tribulation: Revisited - NO Pre-Trib Rapture - KJV Bible Study Christian Theology

Thread: Pre-Trib Rapture? How Does the Last Trump Happen BEFORE that? - KJV Bible Sutdy

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There is no rapture its a satanic doctrine.

Revelation ch 12 is the reality and Truth.

The Lord will preserve obedient believers in the wilderness.

Believers who remain in Babylon will be saved by becoming great tribulation martyr's

Simple and clear, scripture and Truth.

Not the confusion and back twist complexities of the various rapture demon doctrines that don't agree with one another.

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1. According to Revelation 6, the first 5 Seals are not "judgements" / wrath.

Revelation 6:9 - 10

9 And when he had opened the fifth
seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

...

2. In Revelation 7, after the 6th Seal has been opened, we see an angel descend with the 'seal of God', which will be used to mark the foreheads of the 144,000 from the 12 tri-***clans***-bes.

It's easy to argue that these are Messianic Believers, and they need to be 'sealed' BEFORE Wrath can begin.


Revelation 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

...

3. Wrath is mentioned as part of the 6th Seal in Revelation 6.

Revelation 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Lall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
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Thread: Fear Not - Endure Until the End - Post-Trib Rapture - KJV Bible Study

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"tribulation" occurs 22 times in 22 verses in the KJV.

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Deuteronomy 4:30 When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice;

Judges 10:14 Go and cry unto the gods which ye have chosen; let them deliver you in the time of your tribulation.

1 Samuel 26:24 And, behold, as thy life was much set by this day in mine eyes, so let my life be much set by in the eyes of the LORD, and let him deliver me out of all tribulation.

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Matthew 13:21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Mark 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Acts 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Romans 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Hebrews first, and also of the Gentile;

Romans 5:3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;

Romans 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

Romans 12:12 Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;

2 Corinthians 1:4 Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.

2 Corinthians 7:4 Great is my boldness of speech toward you, great is my glorying of you: I am filled with comfort, I am exceeding joyful in all our tribulation.

1 Thessalonians 3:4 For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.

2 Thessalonians 1:6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;

Revelation 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Hebrews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

Revelation 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

Revelation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
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Tribulation isn't Wrath, and the 'End Times' Tribulation isn't Wrath either.

Think about it.

For the last 2000 years, Christians have died from...

1. Violent persecution

2. Violent storms

3. Wars

4. Famine

5. Plagues

6. Earthquakes

7. Car accidents, diseases, tainted water etc...

NONE of these things were God's 'wrath' - yet they are all the same types of things in the first few Seals in Revelation.

Tribulation isn't wrath folks.

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7. Tribulation is not wrath. Scripture proves this.
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No it doesnt, since the great tribulation is Gods wrath

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But regardless, you dont think people should be ready for Christs imminent return. And noone here thinks you are either.
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Christians and been persecuted and killed for 2000 years.

Beheaded - burned at the stake - fed to lions etc...

Were they receiving God's wrath?

NOPE.

Neither have the Christians who have died in famines, earthquakes, pestilences etc...


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Wrath comes after a judgement from God.

God judged the Earth at Noah's time.

He brought the Flood.

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This is AFTER the Sixth Seal.

Revelation 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the
sea, nor the trees,


till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
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Lot, Noah, Enoch, Exodus, plenty were protected before. Even the 7 year famine they were protected.

A God that would put his people through that hell isn't a God I want anything to do with.
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Enoch - NOT taken to avoid Tribulation

Noah & family - NOT 'raptured into glorified bodies

Lot & family - NOT 'raptured into glorified bodies

Elijah - NOT taken to avoid Tribulation
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Why are so called Christians so dedicated to suffering the great tribulation? Its the same reason people cut themselves to impress God. A form of self righteousness, oh look over here I suffer more than you. Oh look God, I'm so unworthy of your love, hurt me good!

After they do this, they lament on why people are leaving the church, then their favorite thing is judging these people to Hell.
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These are AFTER the Seven Seals and the Seven Trumpets.

The Seven Vials of.... 'Wrath'

Revelation 15:7 And one of the four beasts gave unto
the seven angels seven golden vials full of
the wrath of God,
who liveth for ever
and ever.


Revelation 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the
temple saying to the seven angels, Go
your ways, and pour out the vials of the
wrath of God
upon the earth.


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Why are so called Christians so dedicated to suffering the great tribulation? Its the same reason people cut themselves to impress God. A form of self righteousness, oh look over here I suffer more than you. Oh look God, I'm so unworthy of your love, hurt me good!

After they do this, they lament on why people are leaving the church, then their favorite thing is judging these people to Hell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80289182

Not a 'goal'.

We were told what to expect.

Thread: Fear Not - Endure Until the End - Post-Trib Rapture - KJV Bible Study

Thread: The Great Tribulation is Not Wrath - Rapture End Times - KJV Bible Study

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Acts 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that

we must through much tribulation

enter into the kingdom of od.


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Deuteronomy 4:30 When thou art in tribulation,

and all these things are come upon thee,

even in the latter days,


if thou turn to (Jehovah) the LORD thy God,
and shalt be obedient unto his voice;



Revelation 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer:

behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.


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Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation,

such as was not since the beginning of the world


to this time, no, nor ever shall be.



Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days

shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:


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Luke 21

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

27 And then
shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 And when these things begin to come to pass,

then look up, and lift up your heads;

for your redemption draweth nigh.


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Romans 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?


Romans 12:12 Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation;

continuing instant in prayer;


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Revelation 1:9 I John, who also am your brother,

and companion in tribulation,

and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ,


was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.



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"The Great Tribulation" is Satan's wrath, not God's.
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NONSENSE.
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Whatever happened to OP?

5 months no login


Used to be fun busting his chops ...
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Servant of God - I agree with your interpretation of the scripture!

I tried to explain it to a few people with scripture that supports it, as you have, and I get the same responses.
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Same here. The Lukewarm churh is everywhere

Speaking to the Apostles in His final moments before Gethsemane, Jesus said, “In the world ye shall have tribulation, but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world” (John 16:33).


Then you have Lot's wife to deal with. Talk about tribulation and torment. tomato
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Thread: The REAL QUESTION IS....why oh WHY ARE RAPTURE TARDS PUSHING THE VAX??
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This Op does not believe that Jesus is who He says that He is.

Careful out there.

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Some may be.

I believe in the rapture happening - hopefully soon, but do not push the V.

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This Op does not believe that Jesus is who He says that He is.

Careful out there.

:beingcareful:

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Who does he say he is then?
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Romans 1
The wrath of God is revealed ...and results in a people who will not approve of anyome who will not practice his unrighteousness...

Think about if today. People are being fired from jobs if they won't adopt the their teachings on homosexuality and trans. Literally fired for not practicing their unrighteousness.
Fired feom jobs for refusing to believe and practice their covid measures.
Fired from jobs for daring to stand in the truth of the gospel of God and Christ..
People cannot Foster or adopt unless they uphold trans and homesexuality
Etc

These men under wrath will not approve of anyone whom does practice their u righteousness. What is this upon those whose will not practice it? Tribulation, the feeling of being pressed and squeezed
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When the newsman aka the popes ministers teach their viewers falsely that to wear a mask is to love your neighbour, we soon fjnd a population falsely accusing the maskless of not loving their neighbour.Those being falsely accused are experiencing tribulation

When the newsmen aka the popes ministers teach their viewers that those who take their injections are those who love their brothers, we soon have an army of converts alsely accusing those who've refused the injections of hating their brothers. Again, a time of tribulatjon.
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2023The Anti-Christ is revealed as Charles who is “Crowned” King
Revelation 6.2 - I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a “crown”, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.
* Charles Coronation coincided with a Blood Moon, Penumbral Lunar Eclipse & the Eta Aquarids Meteor Shower. Royal Coat of Arms in Revelation 13.

2024 – April 8th The 6th Seal is opened - Solar Eclipse followed by a massive earthquake
Revelation 6.12 - I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red

Matthew 29 - “Immediately after the distress of those days “ ‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

2026/2027 – Mark of The Beast – Digital ID + Digital Vaccine Passport + Digital Currency
Revelation 13.16.17 - It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads,
So that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

2026/2027 – False Prophet revealed - Yuval Noah Harari from the World Economic Forum
Revelation 13.11 - Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.
It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed.

2029 – April 13th Asteroid Apophis hits Earth during the New Moon
Revelation 8.10.11 - The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water—
The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.

2030 – The Return of Christ
Revelation 19.11.12 - I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war.
His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself.
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This Op does not believe that Jesus is who He says that He is. Careful out there. :beingcareful:

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Really?

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"not appointed unto wrath". ( God's children). Your "arguments" are lame.
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Op is the one who is full of "nonsense."
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"not appointed unto wrath". ( God's children). Your "arguments" are lame.
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Read it and weep

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