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User ID: 80744161 United States 05/22/2022 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If Pelosi was banned from receiving communion shouldn't every Catholic that advocates/supports abortion have same fate? There is a difference to the Church between the rank and file sinner in the pew, and a famous, public figure politician whose influence and voice is amplified. If a simple person sits in the pew and in their own mind believes abortion is fine, yet doesn't speak of it, or act on it, it's still wrong but not as dangerous. But someone like Biden or Pelosi being allowed the sacraments when they act to fund, advance, and protect abortion is another matter, because it is the sin of scandal....acting in a way that leads others (millions of others) into apostasy and sin themselves. So someone like Pelosi is more dangerous to the faith than one quiet non politician. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80428878 United States 05/22/2022 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If Pelosi was banned from receiving communion shouldn't every Catholic that advocates/supports abortion have same fate? In fact every Catholic that votes Demonrat should be excommunicated because of many things the Demonrats support that completely goes against those religious beliefs. But like so many things today, Demonrats and Catholics are the literal living definition of the word 'hypocrisy'. But don't worry, God is watching, and one day those Catholics that support the Demonrat agenda will answer for those sins. |
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User ID: 81003880 United States 05/24/2022 03:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If Pelosi was banned from receiving communion shouldn't every Catholic that advocates/supports abortion have same fate? Yep. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80428878 In fact every Catholic that votes Demonrat should be excommunicated because of many things the Demonrats support that completely goes against those religious beliefs. But like so many things today, Demonrats and Catholics are the literal living definition of the word 'hypocrisy'. But don't worry, God is watching, and one day those Catholics that support the Demonrat agenda will answer for those sins. There are a good many conservative Catholics, like myself. We aren't all liberals. I am against unrestricted immigration, abortion, gay marriage, any sex that is not between a man and a woman married to each other, contraception, etc. I've never voted democrat in my life and never shall. Furthermore, any priest (all bishops archbishops, and the Pope himself are all priests) who gives the sacrament of the Eucharist to a person in mortal sin and is aware of their mortal sin is failing at his job as a shepherd and spiritual father to his flock. It doesn't matter if that person is a janitor or the president of a country. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82490731 United States 05/24/2022 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If Pelosi was banned from receiving communion shouldn't every Catholic that advocates/supports abortion have same fate? I'm a former Catholic. My ex-husband abandoned me and our one year old baby when I was 23 years old, for another woman. I went to my priest for help and he suggested I seek an annulment. I started the proceedings but they dug so deeply into very personal things, sought to involve my friends and family members, and quite frankly, brought up so many hurts that it was detrimental to my mental and emotional health. I felt I couldn't bear to go through it, nor did I want to drag the people closest to me through such emotional turmoil, that I dropped it and proceeded no further. My opinion was that God knew what had happened in my marriage, and I finally concluded that I didn't need the approval of religious figures that didn't know me at all (it would reach beyond my local pastor). When I was remarried 12 years later by a Methodist minister, I was automatically excommunicated from the Catholic Church and was forbidden to receive (Catholic) Communion. The stance of the Catholic Church is that since I had gotten married, and the Catholic Church was insistent that I was still married to my first husband since I did not receive an annulment (despite the fact that he was remarried and had a child), and therefore, in their opinion I was purposely electing to live a life of continual and intentional adultery by being married to my new husband. The Catholic Church is a religious organization with their own set of rules, which are vast. If one doesn't like or agree with their rules, or are unwilling to live by them, one should no longer be a part of the organization. If the person refuses to leave and continues to break the rules, especially the ones they consider the most serious, they should be removed. I don't personally agree with many of the teachings of the Catholic Church. I find them to be too reliant upon the tradition of man as opposed to what is actually written and intended in the Scriptures. But I also recognize their right to run their church as they see fit in these areas. So if I must attend a Catholic Church (weddings, baptisms, funerals), I do not even think of taking Communion. Nor do I say some of their prayers when they pray aloud as a group because some of those prayers go against my religious beliefs. Bottom line - Nancy needs to be ex-communicated if she refuses to comply. All Catholics should be ex-communicated if they refuse to comply. To say that Nancy has a greater influence on others by her public support of abortion makes it a serious matter to the Church is true. But it is also an extremely grave matter when the person in the pew supports abortion in defiance of the Church's ruling on the matter, especially if they support abortion in the public forum. This includes Facebook and other social media posts in support of abortion, helping an individual procure an abortion, donating money to Planned Parenthood or other abortion providers, etc. Nancy Pelosi influences the policies of the country. The person in the pew influences individual people in their lives, potentially aiding and abetting the actual abortion of a specific child on a very personal level. Which is worse? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46960637 United States 05/27/2022 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If Pelosi was banned from receiving communion shouldn't every Catholic that advocates/supports abortion have same fate? The Catholic women in my family were taught the natural timing birth control method, which Grandma said includes the roll-away procedure, meaning, no sexual intercourse on certain days. |
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User ID: 80683137 United States 05/27/2022 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If Pelosi was banned from receiving communion shouldn't every Catholic that advocates/supports abortion have same fate? Pelosi will be sent to the bad place that hell send bad people too. I reserve the right to declare my comments and posts as satire. Nothing I post should be considered or interpreted as advocacy for illegal activity. My comments are designed to inspire critical political thinking. I only mean half of what I say and only say half of what I mean. |
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User ID: 80683137 United States 05/27/2022 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If Pelosi was banned from receiving communion shouldn't every Catholic that advocates/supports abortion have same fate? The Catholic women in my family were taught the natural timing birth control method, which Grandma said includes the roll-away procedure, meaning, no sexual intercourse on certain days. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46960637 I reserve the right to declare my comments and posts as satire. Nothing I post should be considered or interpreted as advocacy for illegal activity. My comments are designed to inspire critical political thinking. I only mean half of what I say and only say half of what I mean. |