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Just... wow...

Of course, China having the lowest REPORTED numbers of deaths.

Statistically impossible considering their population and China being the epicenter. I must acknowledge, death by immolation, live cremation or firearm round, when sick with COVID, is not, technically, a COVID death.

Here in my area, many are talking about the Three week cold bug.

Yes, certainly cold remedy drugs are in short supply, I have a gut feeling it's more than just the seasonal cold.

Worst cold I've had for many decades...

that govern admits to. some ppl out the estimates at double the "official count". we saw estimates based on cell usage and other social factors put CHINA at 30 million + in 2020.

adjusting with a 15% excess death rate= 18 million per year, adding for 3 yrs and the CHINA estimate total over 75 million in 3 yrs conservatively. that includes deaths from vax and immune damage but all are covid related.

still the world has survived longer and better than expected. we are way below the original 1 billion estimated for the 3 yrs. things could have been much worse,

welcome to the club. so far none have tested posative for covid of us that have had this cold. u make bout the 5th person in the last month.

1 thing we haven't calculated is how much problems will we see from the doctors and other workers that are losing their brains, both memory and critical thinking capacity.

had Gf at her doc's today, routine check up. doc can't remember things. if she has that much memory with other patients, she'll lose many. had this doc for several years and what she had to ask was stuff that would b common knowledge to anyone not just a medical person that knew us for more than 10 mins. this isn't stuff u'd forget on vacation but like her memory was erased completely.

doc was vaxed and most likely boosted. have no idea or reason to think she had covid ever.

count 6 of us sick, counting DYIN's stomach bug.

Go Dawgs...

Jazzz
When you get a moment.
Can you fill me in on the “proverbial 25%” in conjunction with societal collapse?
First time I’ve heard that number.

wow, u been sleeping in class for a few years now.

the 25% estimate has been spoken of in prep community for years. not sure exactly where it 1st came from. might b mentioned in some documentaries such as the "After Armagedden" that i have posted a few times.

once we lose 25% of the ppl in critical areas, society collapses. these critical positions can not b replaced quickly. much of their knowledge is experience, on the job trained. this goes way beyond book knowledge.

think of ppl inside the Niagara Falls dam and others. the guys at the helm with the gauges and controls keeping the electricity flowing in the right lines at the right rates. think of those inside the NUKE plans. then down to the ppl running the fuel refineries.

the theory is at 25% above the normal replacement, there won't b anyone ready to b put in the positions to b trained. and then problems spread and grow. such as losing electricity. might b brownouts and spiral out to blackouts as more of the critical ppl fail to show up to work, become disabled, or die out. what these ppl know in their heads isn't wrote down in books and has become like a 2nd instinct to them.


cpl notes- few ppl work in these positions. a lot less than cashiers or fast food workers. hence, the 15% death rates are for all ppl not these fields directly. i don't know the actual #'s so hypothetical. let's say it is 5% of all workers are in the high critical positions. then 5/100 of the 15% or .75% excess deaths are theirs.

1 point that helps keep them healthy is they do not work out in the public. they do have a lower risk of catching covid than a fast food worker or store clerk.

with all that we have seen from the slow burn doom of 3 years, i have concerns the collapse can start from other failings than just the critical workers. in the After Armageden documentary, the collapse starts with a pandemic and it overwhelming the medical system 1st. then it spirals to grid services.

some systems that society relies on are damaged. for instance, why did they let criminals out of prison? lots of guards got infected when the prisons had outbreaks. crime rates up?? less cops, again infected in the early waves. less medicines will lead to more kids sick. more kids home, less women returning to work. we are and have been in a freefall.

Thanks! The rain appears to be pretty socked in until Tuesday evening with anticipated rainfall in the 4 - 5 inch range (have read some wild numbers like 10 -12 inches? - that would be really problematic for burn areas). We are staying in. SCal drivers do not know how to drive in rain.

Incredible rainfall and its only Tuesday morning!

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:-) Regarding the kid's "strep bacteria" death, I am expecting such cases to disappear soon once that particular variant's (we don't know which one) wave is over.

If true, it means not everything is caused by the vaccine, same for the kids liver damage/death waves, it is no longer harming kids as that particular variant's (we also don't know which one) waves is over.

If it is really because of vaccine, more and more cases will appear instead of disappear.

Thanks Jazzz
I always goofed off in class.
Also important to couple with the huge increase of new retirees.
Which just adds fuel to the fire.

Evacuations ordered for all of Montecito...

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Assume that a percentage of recently retired will either be enticed or, failing that, pressed back into some level of service.

I gave my employer two years notice of my retirement, they dicked around and didn't/wouldn't replace me until after I hung it up and have lost literally several million dollars of revenue in the past four years as a result.

Fortunately it's not "mission critical" work, but the idea that a replacement is going to be "plug n play" is something that too many organizations believe is true...until it isn't...

this says a lot. it also shows a crack that could expand and push society further off the cliff.

there are so many strings/systems that keep society tied together. even here from the rocking chair zone, i see cracks and i am not out often nor travel too far. as bad as they are here, i am sure they are much worse in the metro areas.

the way this has all played out for 3 years, i start to think the final match or nail in the coffin that begins the collapse will b something unexpected. once 1 string breaks, the whole ball unravels quickly.

i wonder how much of the situation in Buffalo was made worse because of the cracks. Buffalo has handled storms before and is known for lake effect storms. yes, this was a bad storm and came in strange with high temps and a sudden drop with major winds, but this was not Miami. they should know how to shut down the city and to coordinate the plows to high traffic areas.

not sure of the official end count, but nearly 50 ppl lost their lives in a matter of a few hours. a city that sees snow storms was sent into chaos and govern lost control for days.
shortages of police, firemen, plow drivers, etc had an affect. but so too the ppl at the helm behind the scenes failed. i'm not in Buffalo but how much was done before and during the storm compared to say 2018? how much word was out and preparations made ahead of the storm? was the radio used to relay messages to the ppl who were stuck?

now snow stops falling on its own. what if this was a different situation that wouldn't self-correct itself? say a fire that started to burn city blocks? a major disruption in 1 of our supply chains such as gasoline, natural gas, water?

temporary collapses or hiccups similar to what we saw with Buffalo can happen. what we have learned since 2020 is SHTF isn't day and night. it can b a very slow downward spiral, so subtle that most won't see it til it is midnight.

i don't mean to sound so doomy. SHTF isn't defined as a national or worldwide phenomena. it can b very personal scenarios such as losing a job, house fire, medical issues, etc. at the moment the best time line says society should make it close to fall, these localized hiccups being an exception.

NY is about to feel the burn.
Multiple variants and nurses strike in NYC.

Beijing steps up construction of crematorium
This man, I guess from a construction company, shot this video on Jan 9. He said they received an order to reconstruct this hotel into a crematorium with 200 cremators installed. Cremators have already been transported to the site
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Predicting another story about "black rain" in Japan from all the soot being shot into the sky from the mass cremations.

have heard of no effects to here yet.

Thread: Kindergartner Dies Suddenly


Just saw this earlier on our news. Town is not far from me. RIP little one, whatever the cause.

JAZZz50 you are right, it will be very very slow, the only cause for it to be fast will be full nuclear war that suddenly happened within 1 hour.

Quite sad whenever I see this kind of news.

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If this was from the shot, it's the first one I've heard of. Makes me pray that much harder for my "littles" and the rest of the children. I really hate this world sometimes.

Thanks for finding her pictures. I couldn't get a link to post, they were all on fb earlier.

The town had a candlelight vigil for her earlier, down by the lake. Huron isn't a very big town. Like most towns around here, most everyone knows everyone else or someone connected. The kindergarten kids will know each other, I'm sure.

I really don’t know how the storm response could have been different. They told everyone for DAYS how bad it was going to be, and people chose to go out anyway! The only people who should have been out were: medical/emergency personnel and that’s it. People defying driving bans and going out after the storm started caused a LOT of chaos. First the plows got stuck, then the plow that came to plow out the plow got stuck. A few days later, they dug out 11 ambulances! Cops…stuck. The snow was like nothing I have ever seen. To walk through the drift to get to heat pipes was so scary man. I thought I was going to get stuck out there once. You couldn’t see your hand in front of your face for three DAYS! People can bitch all they want, but we really did the best we could. I’m sure most of the people that were out and having to be rescued were the “covid is a hoax” crowd. Everywhere I went when out preparing for the storm, I heard peoples BS “oh, the evil media is just blowing it out of proportion blah blah blah”

Same shit, different disaster. People need to fucking pay attention to WTF is going on around them…but…too busy staring at tick tock videos.

My doc got infected mid last year. Now doc retired because long covid messed him up so bad!! No energy, brain fog etc.

2020 vibes

i agree, SC. as i said it was much calmer here than up in Buffalo. merely pointing out how quickly these cracks can escalate into a full chaotic situation in any city.

u definetly have more knowledge than me on how things play out in Buffalo with any storm and how different this 1 was.