Discussion on what was before the start of the universe?

Or it was always there. The great I am.

Because God comes from outside of time it means that God, and the universe, even time that God created, have always existed.

Its the other way around. The origin of the universe is perfect, but not the path of where the universe is going.

In the beginning was NOTHING.. no thing.. God can't be defined, we can't even imagine what God is or is not.

God, the GREAT ALL POSSIBILE had the firsts thought, thought as we have discovered is actually an electrical spark of sorts in our BRAINS, (our mind can't be touched, only discerned) .

So this thought / electrical pulse (yes the all possible can have this without a physical brain) was the BIG BANG.

Space, time, matter, ether, POTENTIAL all created in a "GOD'S Flash'.

In the life of the Spirit, we are always at the beginning.

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Here are a few musings that I have gathered over the years in way of answers...


There are some things that are unknowable, such as the true nature of GOD which the human mind cannot comprehend but can only apprehend through intuitive insight.


The “ I Am” has no boundaries, works outside of the box, the “ I Am” simply exists is unaffected and unaffectable by any outside stimulus. The “ I Am “ Stands alone, can't be named, can't be owned, can't be labeled.

I AM is Omniscience, omnipresent, omnipotent, somniferous omnibus, in short Omni .

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Anima Mundi.."Soul of the world." the all-connecting consciousness, or divine essence, which permeates and animates everything in Nature. With which all sentient life is fused, blended and unified so that in reality there is no such thing as separateness?

Have we always been? Is there such a thing as a BEGINNING?

yeah agree, The original consciousness before the universal consciousness which probably dreamed the universe into existence likely is what started the universe. But what was there before consciousness is the next big question.

The end of the last one.

This universe, which is the same for all, has not been made by any god or man, but it always has been, is, and will be an ever-living fire, kindling itself by regular measures and going out by regular measures.
Heraclitus

Well, all of this is Everything, so it had to have come from Nothing.

Like a Heartbeat, or a set of Full Lungs, the Universe is Pumping out Matter, or Breathing out Matter right now, Expanding and Accelerating because there is no Resistance in the Vacuum of Space . At some Point in Time, it will Begin to Contract, Condense, and Collapse.

Space…

Everybody wants all they want and need..

The Universe is Exactly Correct.

And When that is Complete…. Anew Big Bang is Realized

Space is void without Matter.

Do you Matter?

THIS^^^^^^^^^^^

That about right, but don't forget the son also
*Side note to previous post remover- stop removing my post. God has a right to do what he wants. The truth shall not be hidden

The best explanation I have seen so far for this question is the Book of Dzyan, in the first volume of The Secret Doctrine, by H.P. Blavatsky, published in 1888.

COSMIC EVOLUTION.
In Seven Stanzas translated from the Book of Dzyan.

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STANZA I.

1. THE ETERNAL PARENT WRAPPED IN HER EVER INVISIBLE ROBES HAD SLUMBERED ONCE AGAIN FOR SEVEN ETERNITIES.

2. TIME WAS NOT, FOR IT LAY ASLEEP IN THE INFINITE BOSOM OF DURATION.

3. UNIVERSAL MIND WAS NOT, FOR THERE WERE NO AH-HI TO CONTAIN IT.

4. THE SEVEN WAYS TO BLISS WERE NOT. THE GREAT CAUSES OF MISERY WERE NOT, FOR THERE WAS NO ONE TO PRODUCE AND GET ENSNARED BY THEM.

5. DARKNESS ALONE FILLED THE BOUNDLESS ALL, FOR FATHER, MOTHER AND SON WERE ONCE MORE ONE, AND THE SON HAD NOT AWAKENED YET FOR THE NEW WHEEL, AND HIS PILGRIMAGE THEREON.

6. THE SEVEN SUBLIME LORDS AND THE SEVEN TRUTHS HAD CEASED TO BE, AND THE UNIVERSE, THE SON OF NECESSITY, WAS IMMERSED IN PARANISHPANNA, TO BE OUTBREATHED BY THAT WHICH IS AND YET IS NOT. NAUGHT WAS.

7. THE CAUSES OF EXISTENCE HAD BEEN DONE AWAY WITH; THE VISIBLE THAT WAS, AND THE INVISIBLE THAT IS, RESTED IN ETERNAL NON-BEING -- THE ONE BEING.

8. ALONE THE ONE FORM OF EXISTENCE STRETCHED BOUNDLESS, INFINITE, CAUSELESS, IN DREAMLESS SLEEP; AND LIFE PULSATED UNCONSCIOUS IN UNIVERSAL SPACE, THROUGHOUT THAT ALL-PRESENCE WHICH IS SENSED BY THE OPENED EYE OF THE DANGMA.

9. BUT WHERE WAS THE DANGMA WHEN THE ALAYA OF THE UNIVERSE WAS IN PARAMARTHA AND THE GREAT WHEEL WAS ANUPADAKA?

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