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gray (OP) User ID: 84084338 United States 09/15/2022 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well i thought i had it... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84197513 but then it got completely wrecked and now i dont have it all. I aim to be transparent for the sake of understanding how transparency relates to clarity. By intuition alone, it seems they are related. However, it's just an intuitive relation. For me that is not enough. So the transparency I bring is to say I'm not here to help you. You might find some benefit from the thread, and that is perfectly fine. I don't particular mind it. What I'd like to know is what your experience of clarity has been. It isn't for research purposes or to gather data on it from others, even if it is phenomenal interpretations of it, since I am not a researcher. It is more to understand what you are describing, because understanding you is more valuable to me. Otherwise, for lack of clarity about you and what you mean, I am unlikely to gain any benefits from what you've written. Feel free to describe your experience in more detail. Also feel free to write no other words than what you've written. It's basically up to you. Thanks. |
gray (OP) User ID: 84084338 United States 09/15/2022 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well i thought i had it... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84197513 but then it got completely wrecked and now i dont have it all. stfu and gtfo op is another "new age" wootard, fuck him. actually I am a roleplayer tomatoe tomato How do you compare a roleplayer with a new ager? This seems like an amusing thing to see. Care to entertain my question just a bit? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84199167 Croatia 09/15/2022 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you compare a roleplayer with a new ager? This seems like an amusing thing to see. Care to entertain my question just a bit? narcissists are larpers, that's all they actually do, they aren't real people, they're what the larp requires. and new age woo like being an empath, various "healings" and all the feel good shit is their mecca because they larp virtuos people to get social power and approval. this is also why they get rabies when they see someone genuinely nice getting the same shit they broke their butt for with 0 effort. |
gray (OP) User ID: 84084338 United States 09/15/2022 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, whatever The basic difference in clarity is "unclearness" which can be likened to muddy waters This is a metaphor suggested by some authors as an illustration of how things can naturally become clear with time, as muddy waters eventually settle and the sediment returns to ground However, I am not sure I agree with this description, because I dont think the lack of clarity comes from having something foreign like another material mucking up the view I suppose its more like disturbance in the waters, or it is tiresome tensions that seem to lack resolution I am purposely avoiding making confusing analogies because that is going to make things unclear! Yet I am doing my best with the English language which I am hesitant to abandon So I will say, at this time, that "unclarity" is a turbidity in the flow or otherwise encountering gratuitous resistance in the unfolding of experience I say it is gratuitous because it's not like I'm making resistance "the bad guy" here, but only that unecessary resistance truly seems to be wasteful Low clarity could also be considered "low res" in the sense of being low resolution or otherwise low resolve. Since it is about power, these would mean the same things. It can only be confusing because of the English. However in this case, my opinion is that the English shines brilliantly shewing something worth seeing. |
gray (OP) User ID: 84084338 United States 09/15/2022 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you compare a roleplayer with a new ager? This seems like an amusing thing to see. Care to entertain my question just a bit? narcissists are larpers, that's all they actually do, they aren't real people, they're what the larp requires. and new age woo like being an empath, various "healings" and all the feel good shit is their mecca because they larp virtuos people to get social power and approval. this is also why they get rabies when they see someone genuinely nice getting the same shit they broke their butt for with 0 effort. So, it sounds like there's no problem! Genuinely nice people get good things with 0 effort and fakers slave away for it. They're not really nice anyway so they might as well exert themselves to justify their presence....right? I guess I don't know what you mean by saying they get rabies, it sounds like a funny way to describe anger, but maybe you really mean they get a contagious disease and so become dangerous enough to spread it. In that case, there could be a problem. Though, I can't imagine how to solve that one, at least not yet. Maybe it will get clearer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82469566 Germany 09/15/2022 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well i thought i had it... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84197513 but then it got completely wrecked and now i dont have it all. I aim to be transparent for the sake of understanding how transparency relates to clarity. By intuition alone, it seems they are related. However, it's just an intuitive relation. For me that is not enough. So the transparency I bring is to say I'm not here to help you. You might find some benefit from the thread, and that is perfectly fine. I don't particular mind it. What I'd like to know is what your experience of clarity has been. It isn't for research purposes or to gather data on it from others, even if it is phenomenal interpretations of it, since I am not a researcher. It is more to understand what you are describing, because understanding you is more valuable to me. Otherwise, for lack of clarity about you and what you mean, I am unlikely to gain any benefits from what you've written. Feel free to describe your experience in more detail. Also feel free to write no other words than what you've written. It's basically up to you. Thanks. So you are not here to help me but you want me to help you? Still a complete taker… get fucked |
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gray (OP) User ID: 84084338 United States 09/15/2022 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well i thought i had it... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84197513 but then it got completely wrecked and now i dont have it all. I aim to be transparent for the sake of understanding how transparency relates to clarity. By intuition alone, it seems they are related. However, it's just an intuitive relation. For me that is not enough. So the transparency I bring is to say I'm not here to help you. You might find some benefit from the thread, and that is perfectly fine. I don't particular mind it. What I'd like to know is what your experience of clarity has been. It isn't for research purposes or to gather data on it from others, even if it is phenomenal interpretations of it, since I am not a researcher. It is more to understand what you are describing, because understanding you is more valuable to me. Otherwise, for lack of clarity about you and what you mean, I am unlikely to gain any benefits from what you've written. Feel free to describe your experience in more detail. Also feel free to write no other words than what you've written. It's basically up to you. Thanks. So you are not here to help me but you want me to help you? Still a complete taker… get fucked Well I'm not asking for help, but more for participation. To participate or not is up to you. It's not something I demand. Regarding complete taking, you might have gotten things twisted around. In fact, I am here to make and what I am making is this thread. Here are also the opportunities for others to write, which would not exist without my contribution. You can dismiss my contribution and it won't affect my opinion of myself, but I won't tell you do adjust your opinion to mine. Anyway, that was a message written to someone who seems to be another user handle from yours. Is it really you? |
gray (OP) User ID: 84084338 United States 09/15/2022 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there is no symbiosis you are just a parasite. That’s all the clarity you will get Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82469566 In fact there are precisely 9 dynamics of exchange, where symbiosis and parasitism are 2 of them. In this case, as the "original poster", the primary contributer to the topic chosen and presented, as well as a consisten interactor with each current participant, as well as an openness to understand and canvassing opportunities for others to write and share what they might have to say on the topic, there is a solid list of "+" positive contributions from me in this space. That excludes every variation of those "9 dynamics" where I am the "-" of the exchange, meaning that parasitism is also excluded. You are factually incorrect. You can consider this neutral. I do not wish to engage in negativity because it doesn't benefit me to mire myself in it. There is enough "work to do" without adding on more crap that muddies things up. I urge you to reconsider your view, because then we can have a conversation. However, it sounds like you dislike my thread and don't want to participate in it. So you are free and allowed, totally welcome, to exist and never return. There is nothing wrong with that. I won't look down on you for it. It's up to you. |
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gray (OP) User ID: 84084338 United States 09/15/2022 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Though of course, that isn't an invitation for an attempt to try and make a mess here. Quoting: gray 84084338 Clarity is seeing through the mess. Well I like that a lot. I can see 2 ways of interpreting that statement and both have a powerful connotation. May I ask about your experiences with clarity? I can't imagine how someone could have such an insight without solid experience with what it means to see through the mess. |
gray (OP) User ID: 84084338 United States 09/15/2022 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this makes me think about this whole bit about larping and I figure I might as well clear things up. As I was creating this thread I had some hesitation regarding what handle to write and since I prefer to keep some anonymity and not worry about establishing some kind of "reputation" or "website cred", and not that I'm saying there's anything wrong with that, only that it's not something I am going for here, so I decided to write "gray". I'm a bit of a fiction writer and have some stories in which there are characters that I grew especially fond of. One of them had the surname "Gray". I dont really see myself like that character much, he's a much cooler guy than me, but I feel like I might become reinspired to write that story if I "roleplay" as him for a bit. Sometimes it helps me stay centered in how I reply to others, since he was a character I developed that had a lot of social understanding. I am not pretending to be the same, but he is like a symbol for me to be considerate of others. Of course he was also a rather neutral guy, and not a hero in the story. He was more like a major side character, which is something I like about good books. They have great side characters! This is why I say I'm a roleplayer, because I'm literally roleplaying. However it's more for myself than anyone else. It's like a reminder. This thread is about clarity. It's not about my unwritten book, or the character. It's just my explanation so things don't get confusing. Hope that helps. |
gray (OP) User ID: 84084338 United States 09/15/2022 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Clarity is a quick understanding of the calmness of the moment, no influence. Quoting: Funney Good intent is needed here for it to work. When for all, all goes well. Now that is intriguing. For Clarity to be a quick understanding is quite a different way to see. I suppose I am biased to interpret it as a "quick moment" within an unfolding process of clarification through time, however I'm not sure that's what you really mean. How's my understanding? I do resonate to the emphasis on "no influence" because that's how I see as what the power of clarity is all about. It's about one's own clarity and seeing clearly, so that actions in life can be clean in their effects. Regarding good intent, my intent is neutral-good. I prefer a good or neutral effect, and same for how relationships of emotion, thought, or ideas may unfold in this thread. It is inherently "for all", since this website is free to use, and doesn't require signing up. I dont have an account here and have started this thread anonymously. I might not be able to post as OP with this id number forever, so eventually it can be assumed I will lose any semblance of "control" over it. So it is inherently my work, and it is motivated for myself, yet the fundamental attributes of this website as an environment for the thread which is the system can only unfold in such a way that anyone and everyone can benefit, if they would like to, without anyone preventing access to the potential knowledge that can be gained here. |
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anonymous participant (OP) User ID: 84084338 United States 09/16/2022 07:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, Mr. Gray. I think what I'd like to say is that the most difficult thing about clarity is waiting. It is difficult to be patient when things feels tough. It is also difficult to wait when I feel great. That's when I feel like I can do just about anything, so I rush into overwhelming things. I must say it's not like I'm feeling arrogant. I'm just feeling pretty good and have little doubts. However it seems like its an illusion? What gives...? |
gray (OP) User ID: 84084338 United States 09/16/2022 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The thing is that clarity takes time. Does it get boring to read that over an over again? But it's literally quite like as if, as though, the visions of clarity arise right out of nothingness. How can you understand it? It is as if existence is itself emotional. These waves of emotion arise from a flat line state and give life to this immersive experience, so spiritual that even matter exists. What a wonder! Can you imagine waiting to see more? How many more vast visions of profundity can you see? Could you only wait, and recognize that the increase of clarity corresponds directly to its power. You are afraid that waiting means you wont get a chance. You think you'll run out of time. You think you depend on the opportunities. Yet the opportunities depend on you. You didn't know? You will not run out of time. Time is your element. What does it mean? It doesn't mean you are so well put together at all times, but that the environment of time, as a temporal environment, or like a different domain from space, well, you can see it like a beautiful art project. It's your own vast painting, in all of its dimensions and colouration. It can hurt and it can be slow. But, it too shall pass. The highs pass and the lows pass. It doesn't stay great forever and it doesn't hurt forever. I know. I'm not in your shoes. How could I say this to you so easily? Well, it's because you are precious to me, hahaha. Life isn't very interesting when it's all gray. :) |
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