Cosmic Death Fungus - General

I have a question about oil of oregano, I have been using “Oreganol” 73% carvacrol…it comes in a 1oz dropper bottle

It is strong, but does not bother me. I take drops under the tongue.

Also oxalates can damage the gut opening the door for yeast overgrowth, oxalates are high in nuts, seeds, sweet potatoes, spinach, chocolate, grains etc.

They can damage the eyes, joints, gut, and form glass like shards …they bind with essential minerals and leave us short.

The active ingredient in round up is a form of oxalate, they spray it on grains to dry the plants out before harvest…because it is easier on the machines.

Almonds are very high in oxalates.

Also iodine is anti fungal, I like the Lugol’s 5% by J Crow, can be diluted in water and taken internally, great to stop any skin infection, detoxes fluoride, is essential for thyroid health and difficult to get in a normal diet.

You can add a drop into a saline nasal rinse to kill virus, bacteria and fungus

What DNA tests are people using to discover the red head Irish problems, I do have green eyes and O+ blood.

I used the Swanson Brand too for the last 2,5 months. What would be the consequence of this low dosage?

I had some dieoff symptoms and some bio film exiting, but not that much. I feel a bit better and clearer, tho.

Same here. Minimal die-off during the first phase. So much so that there was little to report. After reading bout the Swanson's 10:1, now I am left wondering if this might be why.

This is extremely frustrating. Before we gathered the list of suppliers for 10:1 extracts we either confirmed carvacrol content or reached out. Swanson's answer to us at the time was a vague "contains the standard naturally occurring carvacrol content" so we assumed it was 40 to 50mg minimum. And yes, this is likely why die off was minimal if you used Swanson.

I find this practice deceptive and I'm extremely displeased with Swanson at this point.

If you guys had directed us to the specific brand to trust in the first place we wouldn’t have this problem. Swanson was the only brand I could find that had the 10:1 ratio you recommended.

I'd appreciate knowing that too, since Mac has just stated the Swanson brand is not sufficient. Incidentally they are $26.95 with free postage on Ebay. [link to www.ebay.com.au (secure)]
With the fennel oil it is recommended not to swallow it for that reason. Have you been on the 4chan thread at all? [link to boards.4channel.org (secure)]

Looking at your brand, it says 100mg at 80% carvacrol, so you're getting 80mg carvacrol. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but in the protocol is states 33mg of 10:1 oregano oil which makes it 30mg of carvacrol per dose, is that right? Therefore the Herbs of Gold brand is more than adequate at 1 per dosage?

Actually with the 300mg with a 10:1 extract you get to 3000mg oregano... So tenfold the carvacrol as well.

I'm still wondering why Mac recommends the NOW version which isn't a 10:1 extract. That recommendation seems to hang on the bit of the fennel as an attribute. Does that rule out other non-extracts oregano's with sometimes even 70-80% carvacrol just because it lacks that fennel but the now does? I'd like some clarification on that, thank you.

Feels a bit I wasted some months here with the Swanson and don't want that again.

Last Edited by R... on 10/21/2022 01:43 AM

I think %'s and what not get screwed up across borders. Most likely what I have in Canada is different then what anyone outside of my country gets? I'm using this [link to www.rexall.ca (secure)] and taking 3 dropper fulls 2x daily. Overtake the OOR. It's not going to hurt. I think perhaps that going for standardized dosages is something for Mac's papers.

Personally having helped cure 2 Cancers in clients I have my own take on the herbals. Herbals are a hard thing to wrap ones head around. You kind of have to have studied an entirely different thing then most do. Cheers, hope this helps. You can't OD on oregano.

I mean i do feel some improvement and i had some die off, not as spectacular as others, but still. I benefited trendemendously of the NAC, as i have some sort of atopic asthma that produces a lot of biofilm in the lungs. Reducing that improved my focus and extended the duration of being able to focus.


I think the needed Carvacrol content in the OO would be a good addition to the protocol document.

Last Edited by Radian on 10/21/2022 04:48 AM

Okay so now what? I've already started on the maintenance this week. Do I have to start over?

We avoided pushing people to specific brands because we didn't want to be accused of pushing products. This is the consequence of that decision.

To clarify, you want a minimum of 40mg carvacrol in a 10:1 extract brand per 300mg dose. The benefit of the 10:1 extracts are the smaller and more densely packed molecule size. They will be as effective as a non extract with higher carvacrol.

I mentioned NOW brand because of their distillation process. This process creates a smaller molecule size, so even though it's not labeled a 10:1 you will get similar results. The fennel and ginger also have synergy here and further strengthens the formula.

There is no need to be concerned about fennel as a phytoestrogen in the very low amounts you would be ingesting from the brushing protocol. Also it is considered safe for internal use, and any significant increase in blood serum estrogen is based off of higher doses (typically 20mg/kg or higher) used internally as a concentration. The only concern is for pregnant or lactating women taking it internally. If you still have concerns, focus on a 10:1 extract which provides a minimum of 40mg carvacrol per 300mg dose.

Wouldn't other high carvacrol containing oregano oil caps be also made with a distillation process to get the high carvarcol content? I don't see a difference just that you know for sure Now uses that production process

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"Parmesan Walnut and Fig Chocolate Bar" sounds good, the rest look like shit. What does that have to do with anything pissant?

Anyhow...a bunch of weeks in, still confused by the OOR so I simply take more droppers full. I have been taking the niacin 2x a day, is that a bad thing? 500mg niacinimide. SHould I cut down to one? I'm an austere eater (1 meal a day normally pretty healthy home cook). Are there any other supplements to take to boost the system while ousting the fungi? Speaking of which I ran across this earlier in another thread.

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Click if you want. Are spores 'alien transportation systems' pretty much sums it up. I was an afficiando of fungi (like Stamets, more low key, I dealt with magic ones), and now I am having second doubts.

What distillation technique does NOW use? Hydrodistillation, hydrodiffusion, or steam distillation?

Seems the carvacrol content is mainly due to time, at least with steam distillation [link to www.researchgate.net (secure)]
So there's a connection between price, production speed (and thus cost), and effectiviness

Last Edited by R... on 10/21/2022 09:13 AM

Since I've only been on the maintenance part for a few days, I am going to restart this from the beginning, without Swanson. The NOW brand will be here tomorrow. Time to reboot.

Last Edited by Ethelbert on 10/21/2022 01:33 PM

Steam distillation. Minimum 55% carvacrol from the 181mg of oregano oil. This gets you to 99.5mg of carvacrol per capsule. I used Now the whole way through but like Mac said pushing specific products gets dicey.

From their own description of the product:

"GMP Quality Assured: NPA A-rated GMP certification means that every aspect of the NOW manufacturing process has been examined, including our laboratory/testing methods (for stability, potency, and product formulation)."

You should take a peek at a cryptococcus cell.

OK, steam distillation seems quite the normal way of production of the three distillation options. That tells me other oregano compounds that use the same technique will have similar quality, and many not 10:1 extract will be efficient just if the carvarcol content is >55%

OK thanks. As far as I can tell from my research until now, steam distillation seems quite the usual way of production of the three distillation options. That tells me other oregano compounds that use the same technique will have similar quality, and many also not being 10:1 extracts will be efficient as long as the carvarcol content is 55% or higher. Of course it's important to pay attention to quality certificates of the area of manufacture. This helps a lot, thank you.

Last Edited by R... on 10/21/2022 01:19 PM

Glad to help. I doubt this far along you'll have a particular issue, but bear in mind the ingested fennel and ginger hit the fungi pretty hard.

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Last Edited by R... on 10/21/2022 03:46 PM

MacLir and Peribsen,

Sorry to be a pest, but the Swanson and NOW brands both use gelatin, which I can't use as a vegan. Would either of you mind taking a look at the brand I've mentioned in my previous post ( [link to herbsofgold.com.au (secure)] ) and giving an opinion on whether this would be sufficient? Your regimen calls for 600mg of Oregano Oil a day (300mg in the morning, 300mg at night), and with this product I'm linking to, each pill is 100mg with minimum of 80% carvacrol, so 3 pills in the morning and 3 at night should be approximately sufficient, right? Assuming the company are honest in their claims, of course.



Thanks so much for this, this is very reassuring.

I thought I'd share two movies which came to mind reading these threads:

I don't use gel caps. I find droppers full of oregano oil only tickles my throat, I swallow it with coffee in the am as one big swig, and wine in the evening the same way :). Then you can skip the gels altogether. Also, your personal predilection for veganism shouldn't stand in the way of healing yourself? That sort of thinking is borderline COPD.
Letting what amounts to a political stance overwhelm simple reasoning, might be one thing the fungus is urging you to do. Think on it for a bit.

Last Edited by St Tidbits the Odd on 10/21/2022 08:29 PM

Hi there. Are there any 10:1 extract brands available in your locale? How about the NOW brand?

The now brand isn't 10:1 and has a steam distillation process which seems quite normal, and can or can not deliver a high carvarcol content depending on the duration of the distillation process. The emphasis on the product is starting to become remarkable, sorrily enough.

But I'm now learning as well a 10:1 is not 10 times stronger than a 1:1. So 150mg 10:1 extract is not equivalent to 1500mg oil. It's the active compound ratio that matters, and standardization of that is a good thing to have mentioned and look out for.

I have the suspicion distillation delivers a finer product than extraction, reading up on that.

Last Edited by R... on 10/22/2022 02:04 AM

XYNase (I just got mine) is xylitol and GFS extract. It cleared my sinuses up after 2 applications (I just started on it). Thanks for that!

You're on the right track R. Theoretically a 10:1 should have higher actives, but that's not always true. The main benefit there is the molecule distribution. More molecules and smaller molecules. That's why NOW looks attractive with their steam distillation method. You mentioned previously that this method is used for EO which is correct, and provides the molecule size and density to easily pass the blood brain barrier and also work systemically passing through various membranes. Many of these molecules are a thousand times smaller than a simple protein, so the sky is the limit. Normally a full concentrated EO should penetrate every area within the body in a matter of hours, sometimes less.

For example, you could apply an essential oil to your foot and measure it in blood serum within an hour or less.

People are getting stuck on the percent of actives which is less than half of the picture. Carvacrol content is good, but even 100mg has less effect systemically if in it's crude form vs. an essential oil or extract.

A 10:1 is simply the ratio of raw matter to finished product, so 10 grams makes 1 gram as an example. More molecules and smaller molecules is better.

That being said, Swanson being 7mg a cap was extremely low. Mediterranean oregano species have far more than this in raw form. It's almost like they went out of their way to create an inferior product.

The NOW brand is steam distilled so would be effective. I looked at the Carlyle brand sold as a 10:1 which also appears somewhat deceptive, but it looks like they mixed an EO with a carrier which would work well. The 4000mg label is what I'm referring to.

That sounds like sane logic; more and thus smaller molecules for same content. There's a lot diffusion in how producers recommend their product. One I'm eyeing claims to be 10:1 and produced by steam distillation. Steam distillation is quite the common method and also the most efficient in terms of keeping molecular content of the effective ingredients. Not so penetrable and transparent matter. It seems to me a steam distilled product, even when not 10:1 will have sufficient effect on internal fungi.

Last Edited by R... on 10/22/2022 09:08 AM