Cosmic Death Fungus - General

Amazing feedback! I love reading reports like this, I truly do. I'm glad you are on the right track. Please keep us updated.

Hi OP, are you familiar with the paper the Borax conspiracy? if so, do you have a view on adding borax to drinking water? thx

Thank you, Mac!

I have the CDF Doc Version 1.1.

Is there a newer version than this that I should be working from?

I'll take this one Mac.

[link to www.docdroid.net (secure)]

A newer update is coming as well.

Thank you so much for the update.

Will the V 1.5 be radically different?

Definitely. It's being restructured and many things are being added.

Good. The first 3 or 4 pages are in unrecognized fonts, so all i see is boxes with x in them. It sucks.

Will the V 1.5 be radically different?


Definitely. It's being restructured and many things are being added.


SC - is there a release date for 1.5?

I'm planning on recording an audiobook version of CDF, but don't want to double my work before 1.5 comes out.

Appreciate the dialogue, btw. Best to you & yours.

Definitely. It's being restructured and many things are being added.


SC - is there a release date for 1.5?

I'm planning on recording an audiobook version of CDF, but don't want to double my work before 1.5 comes out.

Appreciate the dialogue, btw. Best to you & yours.


No specific release date but will likely be released around Christmas break. Links will be updated here in page 1 of OP and one of us will let everyone know. Thanks for your efforts, we do value the help.

Hi OPs. Been reading this thread for a couple of months and it's very intresting. Always glad to hear people find ways to better health. However I was wondering why not make all of this into a proper standalone website? Why only post on 4chan or Godlike prodctions? Messeges board are not easily survailable.

Also when is all of the research you are conducting being published? Will you link to it? How come you feel so comfortable recommending these supplement to people before your own research is done? What if there are unexpected side effects you are unawhere off?

Wouldn't it be better to wait until your research is actually finished before recommending this defungal-protocol?

Also, although there are people reporting very positive health benefits there are also plenty of people who seems to report becoming very ill from this here on GLP.

In particular I was concerned about someone who had root canals with mercury/amalgam and became deathly ill when using the fennel oil in the mouth. As I have read some of Weston A. Prices work and am awhere of the dangers of amalgam fillings and root canals, I was very concerned that the OP responding to that poor guys post didn't seem to understand that the fennel oil (or something in the protocol) appeared to draw out mercury from the tooth fillings and give the guy mercury toxicity.

What are you're perspectives on this as OPs? Could you be hurting people without knowing it? Why the rush to start people on this protocol before your own research is finished? Thanks in advance!

To answer your questions.

The research was already done prior to releasing the protocol in the wild. We know any potential side effects and list them in the protocol. The compounds are considered safe and demonstrated via decades of studies. We also encourage users to do their own research and most come to the same conclusions.

The two most common side effects are lowering of blood pressure and blood sugar. This is why we notify of this in the protocol and advise to consult with your doctor.

As far as the report of face pain, it is truly a unicorn. We've been tracking feedback and reports for over a year now from thousands of people. Many of them have mercury fillings by averages, and none have reported this issue. It's not uncommon for reports of this type to be caused by issues unrelated to the protocol, and also not uncommon for some of the negative reports to be completely fabricated. We do have long term detractors that fabricate comments and reports. Generally if it looks and smells like a fish, it usually is.

Jumping to conclusions that fennel oil caused a reaction with fillings when we've seen no pattern over the last year is embellishing, and you should not make assumptions here. The most probable answer if the report is legitimate is that the user had an inflammatory reaction causing pain from large pockets of infection due to dental work or an ongoing infection. Fennel would certainly kill those infections quickly and could cause discomfort if the infection is severe enough. This is the most logical answer.

Last Edited by MacLir on 12/13/2022 02:19 PM

Thanks for the reply regarding safety. What I'm wondering is if the fennel oil or something else in the protocol could have chelating effects on the mercury in the root fillings? What the person described sounded like mercury toxicity in my opinion. ALso sometimes people have a one in a million reaction to medications.

That's good to hear that you finished your research before recommending it. Do you have a time frame for when this research will be peer-reviewed and published? Also as I mentiontioned in my first post, have you considered making a website for your message instead of solely posting on 4chan and here?

Thanks again!

Spook alert^^^

I disagree and now I'm questioning your motive on these comments. The following quote is from a study on mercury toxicity from fillings and the reported symptoms.

quote:
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The symptoms of the cured patients had been predominantly mental. No consistent clinical picture could, however, be found among the other patients, as various types of mental and physical distress were reported."

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The FDA lists the symptoms of mercury toxicity as:

irritability
shyness
tremors
changes in vision or hearing
memory problems
depression
numbness and tingling in hands, feet or around mouth

These symptoms were compiled from the CDC's ATSDR reporting database.

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You are attempting to link fennel oil to mercury toxicity but the symptoms reported are not typical as shown above. I will assume you made an error in judgement and that you were not intentionally trying to create a negative connotation, but if it continues I will begin removing posts again.

This forum is moderated for the benefit of true discussion based on user reports and arguments based on science. Please follow this format or your posts will be removed.

An example would be to provide your theory and also studies that support your theory. There are many 'Doctors' on YouTube that give dangerous or misleading advice. Sticking specifically to scientific studies reduces the possibility of answers skewed for potential monetary gain, recognition or otherwise.

Thank you.

Last Edited by MacLir on 12/13/2022 02:42 PM

How many of those do you take? It would take a lot ,8?, To get the 4000mg. Maybe that much isn't needed.

I'm deciding which ones to buy. I think the liquid might bother my mouth. I would hate to spend $25 and then not be able to use it.

Last Edited by Paranoiaaaaa on 12/13/2022 08:14 PM

Hello again. Hmm. How unfortunate you are questining my motives. I am not trying to link fennel oil to mercury toxicity. I was asking questions regarding if fennel oil or something else in the protocol could have chelating effects on amalgam fillings. If this is the case then it is important for you to know! I hope you will consider my input in your research and that my answer here does not break your rules for posting. Simply trying to help. And of course I can post links as requested.

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NAC appears to be a chelator and normally this is a good thing. To the best of my knowledge, when chelating from heavy metals with substances like NAC it is recommended to first remove amalgam fillings. [link to noamalgam.com (secure)]

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Fennel oil also appears to have chelating abilities, this is also what I suspected when reading the anons post.

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If the anon who reported severe headache when using the fennel oil in his mouth, hypothetically had microleakage from a amalgam filling, NAC/fennel oil could be drawing out and chelating mercury from a leaky root filling. This would change the effect of the mercury toxicity since it would enter the bloodstream I assume. From what I can gather mercury toxicity affects the entire CNS in many ways and depends on how the mercury was ingested and in how big of a dose. The CDC states that some other effects of mercury posioning are headaches, breathing difficulties, weakness, indecision, coughing and chest pain. [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]

This could potentially explain why this particular OP became so sick. This is something I reacted to when reading his post, and wanted to alert you of. So I guess concern for the anon was more in the realm of my motive. However this is mearly a hypothesis.

Sometimes medicine or herbs that are good for most people can have unfortunate side-effects and reactions in a few people. A good example of this is the herb Ashwaganda who helps a lot of people with anxiety and sleep. But for a small percentage who takes the herb, it causes muscle twitching. Now, does this mean Ashwaganda is a bad herb? No ofc not, but for some people it is not appropriate.
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Why I also ask how the publication process and peer-review process is going is not because I am a spook with bad intentions, but because Peribsen has mentioned your article being in a peer review process and I would really like to read it. I am interested in the scientific paper itself, not the authors.

Best of luck to you with your CDF experiment and I will await your published article with excitement.

Been doing it 3 days now -

feels pretty good so far, definitely slightly more flatulent than usual -

Noticed I am sleeping patterns are altered, sleeping more, and deeper, no weird dreams yet.

was thinking about the use of aspirin as a way to help the active ingredients penetrate your cells faster/deeper?

also what about things like creatine that help your muscles take in more water?

just ideas, I dont know much about it for sure.

NAC is an excellent chelator, yes. My point here was pretty straightforward. The reported symptoms of mercury toxicity do not correlate with the description he provided. It was obviously some form of nerve pain, and considering his history of dental work/issues it is more likely inflammation set off this nerve pain. Mercury toxicity is systemic, yes, and mostly manifests in symptoms related to the brain.

His reaction was localized. He applied the fennel and had a localized pain response. Assuming the report was even real.

Unfortunately we've been hounded by one or more people since the beginning. They regularly use well poisoning techniques, attempt to derail threads and turn people away. If I misjudged, my apologies. Typically they find some odd angle of attack involving potential reactions so I tend to get jumpy.

With NAC as a chelator, it does work with mercury ions and other heavy metals. I'll take a look at the fennel link and respond further when I free up some time.

Take care.

If I don't get much tooth decay does that mean the protocol is working? I'm not brushing with fennel oil but I do take vitamin D3 and K2. Also, does anyone else need a LOT less sleep on this protocol? When I moved into this flat about 10 years ago I slept about 10 hours at night.. now it's about half that sometimes even less.

Hi OPs,
thanks for your work!

I have done a DNA testing on MYHeritage.
Do you know if I can check in my raw DNA data if I have some of these genetic defects?
The raw data is build as follows:

rs......,"1",".......","2-Nucleobases" ("...." being numbers)

UPDATE
NOW oregano oil has been a game changer. The difference in my 'symptoms' has been noticeable. Deep fatigue and random sharp pains, headaches and the runny nose crusty eyes are back. None of that is a surprise and although not feeling well isn't fun it is viewed as progress and well received.
Two nights ago I experienced something very strange and wanted to see if that was something anyone else has information about. I felt body pains, like I have been feeling in random areas, inside my abdomen on the sides. It was a 'twin' pain and repeating pattern I am guessing in my kidneys? It wasn't crippling but it was impossible to ignore. It went on like a throbbing for a while then abruptly stopped. I had an intense urge to urinate, and found the odor to be intense and very foul. It was at night and dark so I didn't really see the color and didn't notice so much the odor until the flush had been initiated. It seemed strange?
For the next few days I had serious headaches and more deep fatigue. Today I feel fantastic. I slept many hours past when I normally awaken.
I had a strange dream last night about green lights on black background like decibel measurements that were crazy active up and down in vertical columns. They slowed and slowed until a 'flat line' (no more activity) and all green lights.
I am not sure what any of this means, if anything? I do know that I am breathing much deeper without effort and when I am not feeling 'sick' I feel remarkable. My family is concerned the protocol itself is causing my 'illness' and wants me to stop taking it. I do not think there is anything adverse in the supplements themselves. A little reassurance would be nice however.
I'm just using oregano oil, black seed oil and NAC. I brush with fennel oil and have started the probiotics recommended.
I am 6 weeks into this and still only have a day or three at most where I am not feeling die off symptoms. I was hospitalized for black mold 5 years ago and told it can only be managed not cured.
I appreciate any input about the kidney/urine smell. I only found a couple references to cats when I searched the thread.
TIA!

Hi,
do you think I can also use tea tree oil instead of fennel seed oil?

Thanks for the great feedback on this. What you are experiencing are common symptoms of die off. Sometimes you'll get some hyper focused sharp pains, sometimes bloating, headaches, etc. The foul urine smell is also reported frequently during die off.

I find it interesting that they claimed exposure to black mold can only be managed and not cured. The protocol will eliminate the mold throughout the body, including the brain. You will know when you are clean when 3 weeks to a month passes with no die off symptoms. As of right now I can take up to 400mg carvacrol daily and experience no side effects whatsoever. Not that I'd recommend that to others, but it shows the die symptoms are temporary.

Safety wise, Oregano is considered one of the safest compounds out there. SC recently showed me a study where they claim up to 800mg/kg body weight is still considered safe. At the amounts we recommend it's very safe. Phase 4 clinical trials were performed on carvacrol intake in human trials and they considered it safe after a month of regular usage.

Both black seed oil and NAC are safe and protocol amounts are well below any theoretical thresholds for safety. All 3 compounds are considered liver protective so they assist during die off as well to prevent any adverse reactions due to inflammation.

NOW Oregano Oil is definitely stronger than most products and certainly more affordable.

Are you having an issue with the fennel? Usually if someone finds it strong it's only during the first few days. After that it's less jarring than an alcohol based mouthwash.

Fennel oil is one of the most popular parts of the process. Simply brushing your teeth with this oil will flood the body with small molecules that are even more potent than oregano against some fungi and bacteria. Within a matter of seconds it reaches the bloodstream, the brain, and works through the entire system. It's very effective.

In anticipation of the upcoming pdf update, the NAC Protocol has been updated in the OP.

The largest change is the Oregano Oil dosage. This is now based on a minimum carvacrol amount to maintain a base level of efficacy for everyone using the protocol.

This came out of necessity due to brands not being forthcoming with potency. We only recommend sourcing Oregano Oil with a carvacrol amount clearly listed. Below are brands that list carvacrol content. To the right of each brand is the mg amount which is listed per capsule, not per serving.

So using Carlyle as an example, each capsule contains 20mg Carvacrol. To reach the 40mg minimum the serving size is two capsules.

Biotics Research (33mg)
California Natural (32mg)
Carlyle (20mg)
Designs For Health (36mg)
Gaia Herbs (27mg)
Gold Source Labs (32mg)
Herbs Of Gold (80mg)
Island Nutrition (75mg)
Natural Factors (144mg)
Nature's Way (37mg)
NOW Oregano Oil (99mg)
Oreganol Super Strength (102mg)
Pure Mountain Botanicals (32mg)
Pure Synergy (36mg)
Source Naturals (31mg)
Solaray Aerial Extract (40mg)
The Vitamin Shoppe (super strength) (32mg)
Vitality Works (32mg)
Wellness Resources (55mg)
Zane Hellas (130mg)
Zenement (106mg)

Genetics are really Peribsen's area of expertise. I'm going to link you a good resource and you can search familial candidiasis to see the specific gene markers and compare to your report. Hope this helps.

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9 days in. I have no nose or sinus issues. Would Xlear spray be good to add to the treatment? How many times should we spray per day?

I use it 3 times a day, and the discharge was thick, yellow and smelled bad. That was after a week. I'm still using it and finding other 'sick pockets' after 6 weeks!

been doing this protocol for at least a month I'd say now. I thought I had gotten through these die off symptoms. guess not. took the usual dose last night. oregano oil and nac both NOW brands. woke up to some pretty intense back/muscle /side pains today. took tylenol (I don't like having to take that, but for now had to) got myself a heat pad in case it doesn't go away today. I don't know but from reading others it sounds like this could very well be more die off symptoms similar to the sharp pains some have reported here. That meets what I'm experiencing here. some sharp pains here and there. Just reporting my recent experiences. Gotta pick up some more black seed oil today though.

Hi OP, May I ask again, do you know if borax is safe to ingest? I plan to use it during the protocol to address calcium deposits because I feel I am at risk of heart attack. thanks.