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Lithium + Water. For The People That Never Took A Science Class

 
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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Umm, that link says 175 THOUSAND
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That is almost more believable. I see bur Ed cars on the highway a fair amount but the last I drove the highway I saw a lot of burn spots. I thought more than usual.
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those were Teslas.

lol

ok i gotta admit, thats a good catch.

so do you believe cars are 4x more likely to burn than Teslas are?

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10/06/2022 11:22 PM
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okay, i have to concede that EVs have less fires than gas cars...

until there's a big storm.

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10/06/2022 11:26 PM

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Sodium not Lithium. Lithium is a gas.
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10/06/2022 11:28 PM
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BS, I stabbed 4 lithium prismatic cells and placed them underwater, nothing happend.

However, when I kept stabbing them and got them to ignite they never stopped burning while underwater.
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10/06/2022 11:32 PM

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I always knew they would kill their own dumbass minions. They still can’t figure out the elites hate them and want them dead.
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Sodium not Lithium. Lithium is a gas.
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Look at your Periodic Table. And Lithium is a shiny metal,
with the consistency of a slab of cheese that
can be sliced off with a paring knife.

(by the way: three quarters of all the Chemical Elements
in the Universe are Metals.)
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10/06/2022 11:40 PM
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[link to www.polymod.com]

"Bill Shamban was the founder of W. S. Shamban & Company"

I worked for W.S. Shamban in the 1980s, we produced teflon
seals. Teflon is actually a pretty dangerous substance
because it's fluorine bound to carbon, extremely strong
chemical bonds, which means they're aren't attracted
to anything else. That's why nothing sticks to Teflon.

Fluorine gas is *highly* reactive, it can kill you.

So I worked in the production of the seals, with lithium
and teflon, etc. We always kept the lithium in either
an oil bath or ether, so it couldn't react with air.

One day my new supervisor, who knew nothing about chemicals
(I was a CE major), disregarded the safety protocols because
he didn't want to wear gloves. So he got some teflon
powder on his hands, which got on his cigarette, which
was hot enough to vaporize the teflon into its base
components, and he got a dose of fluorine gas.

And that was it. He got sicker than shit within an hour,
ambulance came and take him away. Never came back. He
didn't die but he was done with the job.
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We use to make Teflon at my plant site and heard of stories about "teflon flu" Rules were you were not allowed to take your cigarettes in the area of the Teflon and one guy left his open soft pack of cigs in his front shirt pocket. He took a smoke break and went out for a smoke ,then there were two sick people. One of the sick guys bummed a smoke from the Teflon guy.
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10/07/2022 12:05 AM
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So no Teslas have been in the rain?

Your words...
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They are igniting in Florida and giving us all huge laughs at the pitiful bug people
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I always knew they would kill their own dumbass minions. They still can’t figure out the elites hate them and want them dead.
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That's nouvous. They are the tacky nasty trash that did anything to get ahold of some money and they are always the same and yes, to be fatted up for slaughter. They're repugnant to everybody and go to things like maria obamawitch because they have absolutely negative level taste and class. Give thanks and pray they eat them soon!
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So no Teslas have been in the rain?

Your words...
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The batteries in Teslas aren't supposed to be in contact with water. They are supposedly protected, but sometimes things aren't perfect.
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10/07/2022 12:21 AM
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So no Teslas have been in the rain?

Your words...
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The batteries in Teslas aren't supposed to be in contact with water. They are supposedly protected, but sometimes things aren't perfect.
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"For decades, science enthusiasts have delighted at the famously energetic way Sodium, Lithium, and Potassium explode on contact with water" --Wiki
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My knee jerk reaction is that these 'EVs are dangerous' crowd are like horse owners when the gas powered automobile came along, screaming how unsafe cars are because they can - and do - catch fire...yet all these years later we still drive these same types of cars, and accept that they will catch fire, presumably because the risk/reward ration is still firmly in the risk category.

I have used LiPo batteries for years (in R/C models) - a similar technology to what is in most EVs - and never had one catch fire on me. Why? Because I obey the safety recommendations, and haven't had a crash severe enough to cause them to catch fire. Of course it does happen, but again the risk/reward profile is in our favor.

I'm more concerned at this point in cheap, poorly manufactured/protected batteries in EVs, which will likely result in law suits and - hopefully - more stringent safety measures to mitigate the fundamental risks of these types of batteries.
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My knee jerk reaction is that these 'EVs are dangerous' crowd are like horse owners when the gas powered automobile came along, screaming how unsafe cars are because they can - and do - catch fire...yet all these years later we still drive these same types of cars, and accept that they will catch fire, presumably because the risk/reward ration is still firmly in the risk category.

I have used LiPo batteries for years (in R/C models) - a similar technology to what is in most EVs - and never had one catch fire on me. Why? Because I obey the safety recommendations, and haven't had a crash severe enough to cause them to catch fire. Of course it does happen, but again the risk/reward profile is in our favor.

I'm more concerned at this point in cheap, poorly manufactured/protected batteries in EVs, which will likely result in law suits and - hopefully - more stringent safety measures to mitigate the fundamental risks of these types of batteries.
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You can be sure that the EV manufacturers will be just as Immune as Big Pharma is.
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My Tesla is out in the driveway charging at 48 amps in a downpour

I’ve put 40,000 miles on that thing in the past year, and had one minor service call (that was fixed in my driveway in under 5 minutes).

You guys don’t have a clue. Those batteries are sealed and you can drive right through flooding that will kill the motor in your Hillbilly trucks (have done this myself).
Sneed, seethe, and dilate
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If you want to see a real party, take a lump of sodium metal and do the same.

Actually don't, some might be dumb enough to do it.
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My Tesla is out in the driveway charging at 48 amps in a downpour

I’ve put 40,000 miles on that thing in the past year, and had one minor service call (that was fixed in my driveway in under 5 minutes).

You guys don’t have a clue. Those batteries are sealed and you can drive right through flooding that will kill the motor in your Hillbilly trucks (have done this myself).
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My truck would drive through deeper water than your tesla. I bet your tesla is heavy though but my truck is a truck lol
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Electric Vehicles exploding after water damage from Hurricane…

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My Tesla is out in the driveway charging at 48 amps in a downpour

I’ve put 40,000 miles on that thing in the past year, and had one minor service call (that was fixed in my driveway in under 5 minutes).

You guys don’t have a clue. Those batteries are sealed and you can drive right through flooding that will kill the motor in your Hillbilly trucks (have done this myself).
 Quoting: Urban_Moving_Systems


TOP TESLA FIRES COMPILATION VIDEO! Watch as these Tesla cars & batteries catch on fire and explode!

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10/07/2022 02:15 AM
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Here's what happens when your Tesla gets wet.

I saw this experiment in high school, we had a substitute
teacher that day and he actually blew up the water beaker
by accident and cut a couple of students.



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this one is better

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10/07/2022 02:16 AM
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Sodium not Lithium. Lithium is a gas.
 Quoting: thewellhungarian


no it's not...in its elemental state


lol

like all alkali elements in column one in the periodic table


they are all very water sensitive....lithium more than sodium


go back to high school chemistry 8th grade


off topic...but a gas?

lmao

Last Edited by Grove Street (Redux 3.0) on 10/07/2022 02:18 AM
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of course everything becomes a gas, liquid or solid at some point..


do you guys even 9th grade P-chem triple point

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this is for the poster who said it is a gas at room temperature

lmao
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Class D fire.

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Fire departments aren't equipped to fight these, I think Elon should have to buy the materials fire departments need to fight his cars fires.

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I would like for someone to put a video of a Tessla on fire because of water.
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Water makes the fire 100x worse.

But the Teslas don't need water to catch fire...they do that just fine on their own sitting parked.

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My Tesla is out in the driveway charging at 48 amps in a downpour

I’ve put 40,000 miles on that thing in the past year, and had one minor service call (that was fixed in my driveway in under 5 minutes).

You guys don’t have a clue. Those batteries are sealed and you can drive right through flooding that will kill the motor in your Hillbilly trucks (have done this myself).
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bsflag

You drive a Fiat, not a Tesla.
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I would like for someone to put a video of a Tessla on fire because of water.
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So no Teslas have been in the rain?

Your words...
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OP is a stupid jerk (although I have never known of intelligent jerks either).
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Look, electric cars are bound to fail, if you bought one, well good luck on that.

Now, in the upcoming Apocalypse, you just stay away from electric cars and anything electric that moves.

Also for protection you just have bleach and Vinegar, rubbing alcohol and ammonia which is easy to find, just have a cat, plenty of ammonia in their piss.

Mix combinations in a bucket that you have close to entries that you want to secure, the mix you do it upon apocalypse that the zombies want to enter and eat you, and you will have either chlorine gas, chloramine, chloroform and if you mix vinegar and hydrogen peroxide, which you can easy find hydrogen peroxide, you will then have the best internal bleeding defence weapon upon the attack of the zombies in the upcoming apocalypse.





GLP