This is not presumption, this your inability to read scripture and cross reference scripture and like your AC5432 buddy on page 6 who you were high-fiving and agreeing with, you’re unable to understand basic scripture spoon-fed and laid out for you with clear explanation because you’re blind from your ingrained, preconceived notion of the rapture that doesn’t align scripturally.

This is why I regret responding because no matter how much scripture and explanation and cross-referencing verifying scripture is presented, your mind will not change as you’re unable to learn so to further discussion is pointless with you or the AC5432 character. You both are unable to learn and no matter how much I or anyone else tries to show you two, you’ll continue misinterpreting scripture and arguing with said misinterpreted scripture.

You argue and argue with misunderstanding just basic scripture. In this thread, you’ve argued for example against a pre-tribulation rapture by claiming the 144k are the bride of Christ. How is the bride of Christ raptured (who you claim are the 144k) when these people are all slain for their testimony during the Tribulation? How are slain people raptured? What would be the point? There is none because it isn’t scriptural nor logical.




I’ve explained so as an 8-year old may understand above using scripture, take it or leave it friend. Good luck.