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Hand Minted Local Currencies could be the Start of Local Economic Redemption

 
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The idea of money that expires is interesting. I found it in an article on demurrage, as suggested by that kindly AC.

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“Only money that goes out of date like a newspaper, rots like potatoes, rusts like iron, evaporates like ether, is capable of standing the test as an instrument for the exchange of potatoes, newspapers, iron and ether. For such money is not preferred to goods either by the purchaser or the seller. We then part with our goods for money only because we need the money as a means of exchange, not because we expect an advantage from possession of the money. So we must make money worse as a commodity if we wish to make it better as a medium of exchange."

Silvio Gesell, The Natural Economic Order

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There is a good site in Germany with some English translated material of interest - but I have temporarily lost the link.

Here is essentially a biography: [link to silviogesell.wordpress.com (secure)]

Several videos from an old fellow who is in Texas(??).
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Re: Hand Minted Local Currencies could be the Start of Local Economic Redemption
Much more related information found here:
Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments (Page 101)
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Re: Hand Minted Local Currencies could be the Start of Local Economic Redemption
Open Money project (similar to LETS) from BC Canada Vancouver area: [link to www.openmoney.org (secure)]
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Freedom cannot be purchased with a currency that is centrally issued. Centralized money and centralized power is a symbiotic pair; neither can exist without the other. Freedom can only be purchased with a decentralized open source medium of exchange where the producers of value participate in the creation of the symbols by which that value is exchanged in proxy, and the banker serves in an agency role to producers of value.
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An economic system is to the physical economy as a topographical map is to the physical geography. If you threw a topographic map in a burning fireplace, would you look out the window expecting the rocks, roads, and marshlands to suddenly burst into flame?

All human needs are provided by the living; an inherited debt is an enslaving memepex that belongs in the circular file with the flat-earth maps.
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Re: Hand Minted Local Currencies could be the Start of Local Economic Redemption
The Illusion of Money and Debt (Parts 1 and 2)

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The Rumble channel StopWorldControl has released a new video which is projected as a week long event. You can download these videos with keepvid dot com.

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Videos are made in multiple languages.
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Re: Hand Minted Local Currencies could be the Start of Local Economic Redemption
Found here: Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments (Page 102)

Two hour video, Dr Jordan Peterson: The Immaculate Conception: Bitcoin vs Fiat Standard with Dr. Saifedean Ammous


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Local competing currencies are NOT legal
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That's not true.

PRIVATE currencies are 100% legal.
When you are afraid of losing your life, you have already lost your life.

Don't be afraid.
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Go here: [link to userpage.fu-berlin.de (secure)]
and scroll down to this: Englische Texte

Look for Margit Kennedy: Interest and Inflation proof money.
That is a short book and easy read (free download)

Others of interest in the same group.
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This is a Stephen DeMeulenaere webpage: [link to www.appropriate-economics.org (secure)]

Stephen is from British Columbia Canada but now lives in SE Asia
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Griscom Morgan was the son of Arthur Morgan:
[link to www.agrariacenter.org (secure)]

Both knew and were familiar with the author and the book he wrote; Arthur Dahlberg HOW TO SAVE FREE ENTERPRISE.

That book was based on the ideas of Silvio Gesell
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THE BEST KEPT SECRET OF THE DEEP STATE
From Sweden; a series of videos:

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You kind of have to have a healthy hometown mom and pop business environment in order for it to work. That's why it got dismantled first.
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Jordan Peterson invites one & all to a new vision for the future. The entire video is 17 minutes, but if you will only watch the first 5 - 6 minutes that is where Peterson defines the problems. Joe Rogan has little to say in this video. Peterson does 99% of the talking.

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The idea of money that expires is interesting. I found it in an article on demurrage, as suggested by that kindly AC.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

“Only money that goes out of date like a newspaper, rots like potatoes, rusts like iron, evaporates like ether, is capable of standing the test as an instrument for the exchange of potatoes, newspapers, iron and ether. For such money is not preferred to goods either by the purchaser or the seller. We then part with our goods for money only because we need the money as a means of exchange, not because we expect an advantage from possession of the money. So we must make money worse as a commodity if we wish to make it better as a medium of exchange."

Silvio Gesell, The Natural Economic Order

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Daozen


There is a good site in Germany with some English translated material of interest - but I have temporarily lost the link.

Here is essentially a biography: [link to silviogesell.wordpress.com (secure)]

Several videos from an old fellow who is in Texas(??).
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Currency and money system is a stupid way as it is anologoys to our thoughts. Thoughts are defects or like short circuit. Thoughts are like created by archons to reduce your efficiency.
Thoughts can be parallel to servant. When a master uses a servant then it's time consuming but when master does it in his own then time is saved money is saved he will learn and archons will not be able to interfere as archons project themselves as servants and control us.
Once u start doing things with thoughts u quantum jump in evolution.





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