Woman Who Was Raped But Refused Abortion: “Babies are Babies No Matter How They’re Conceived | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81451989 United States 01/25/2023 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85154091 rapists are punished, that is why it is a crime again why can you not answer what crime the woman committed to deserve the punishment of being raped and having to deal with a year of her life being taken from her carrying the rapist's baby to term oh right because the woman did not commit any crime, which is why you continue to dodge and deflect from answering and just repeating the same talking point over and over like a politician Killing a child, a living human being, is never the solution. You dodge and deflect, just like an abortion clinic employee. Less than 1% of abortions are reported as a result of rape. Try again. Again a fetus a few weeks old isn't a child or baby. You people almost make it sound like women being raped and being pregnant from the rapist is a good thing and a blessing from God. ALL children are a Blessing, no matter what the circumstances are of their conception ! ^^^ THIS !!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81680631 United States 01/25/2023 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: tiger1 Killing a child, a living human being, is never the solution. You dodge and deflect, just like an abortion clinic employee. Less than 1% of abortions are reported as a result of rape. Try again. It's about the ones who ARE actually raped- and yes, if a woman is passed out/can't consent or is drunk and tells another drunk no and they don't stop- it is rape. Also, I don't know what you mean about being reported as rape. Do clinics ask what the circumstances of the pregnancy are? The women can give a reason for the abortion, but it is optional to do so. Here's a novel idea...how about just don't get black out drunk around strangers? Just thinking out loud...it's probably super dumb and we should just keep encouraging this behavior in our daughters, LOL I agree with you- it's the ultimate stupidity. However, the rapist in that situation is a monster. They have the genetics of a monster if they have sex with a person who is totally "blacked out" or says no/resists. There is a line where the woman consents because her inhibitions are low and she regrets it the next morning. That is something else- a woman's own stupidity. Of course no one should be out drunk around a bunch of strangers. |
Ginseng
User ID: 84004355 United States 01/25/2023 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i'm not impressed with the young men of today either, but damn, why would any of them want to marry a slutty drunkard who fucked a hundred men before age 40 and then lost her fertility by the time she seeks a husband? Ginseng |
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Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 52929264 United States 01/25/2023 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't think of any maternal medical reasons to kill the baby. Quoting: beeches Terminate a pregnancy, yes, like in eclampsia and pre-eclampsia. terminating a pregnancy in that case means early delivery, which is NOT murdering it. Something which I always wonder about but rarely if ever see it mentioned is how many childless women would give ANYTHING (and some have) for a baby of their own. Yet it is so expensive, a person could buy a house for what is charged for fertility treatments based upon hope. And there is no money-back guarantee either! "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
JustmeTX
User ID: 84369183 United States 01/25/2023 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, I have no dog in this hunt either, just an old guy that didn't rape anyone ever. But might as well annoy people with my opinion. (that is why we are here after all). :) From 0 to about 10 weeks into gestation, the fetus has more in common with a tadpole than a human being. Gills and all. A woman should have legal access to a termination of pregnancy up to some point. I would suggest 10 weeks gives the mother time to realize she is pregnant, wrestle with the pros and cons and have a procedure if that is her decision. Those that ascribe full human rights to a mass of cells that didn't even exist a few weeks ago, are reasoning based upon the religious dogma that someone has drilled into their head. We don't live in a theocracy like Iran. We live in a secular country, where laws are based upon a constitution and a long history of legal verdicts and legislation by a representative government. The cold reality is that women can become pregnant due to rape or whatever drunken stupor they were in and they are not in a situation where they can take care of a baby. Let's leave adoption out of this. If you sterile fucks wanted to have babies, then maybe you should have had them yourself when you were still fertile. The bottom line is that these women will still seek out abortions, legal or not. When they are not legal, the woman will likely as not end up dying in some fetid shit hole, abandoned by the pimp that decided to add abortion to his bag of money making tricks. I reiterate, religious dogma cannot be the basis of legislation or we sink to the level of an Iran or Saudi Arabia. Your religion is about YOU and your god only. Don't push those beliefs onto others. And certainly don't use the power of government legislation to push your beliefs. Law is about weighing both sides of an argument on the blind scales of justice. You may not always get your own way, but the process needs to be in accordance with our country's founding principles, transparent and impartial, as this is the best form of government man has yet devised. Your religious leaders are given tax free status in recognition of the division between church and state. Yet religious leaders continually try to usurp governmental powers. Take away their tax free status. There. That should have pissed off a lot of people. :) PS. One other thing. Using language as a devisive tool is the lowest of the low. Calling people who don't want to see young women dying in back alley abortion clinics "pro abortion" is dirty pool. Nobody and I mean nobody is pro abortion. It is a nasty thing in all respects. It is simply the least nasty of the nasty choices available. (when done within the first 10 weeks). And to pass along an old saying. You cannot legislate morality. Last Edited by JustmeTX on 01/25/2023 09:56 PM Justme |
Blessed E v
User ID: 84315964 United States 01/25/2023 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And abortion supporters scream to profiler's I hope you get raped and pregnant! Last Edited by Blessed E v on 01/25/2023 09:57 PM “The heart of the discerning acquires knowledge.” Proverbs 18:15 |
Weyoun
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Ginseng
User ID: 84004355 United States 01/25/2023 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81680631 It's about the ones who ARE actually raped- and yes, if a woman is passed out/can't consent or is drunk and tells another drunk no and they don't stop- it is rape. Also, I don't know what you mean about being reported as rape. Do clinics ask what the circumstances of the pregnancy are? The women can give a reason for the abortion, but it is optional to do so. Here's a novel idea...how about just don't get black out drunk around strangers? Just thinking out loud...it's probably super dumb and we should just keep encouraging this behavior in our daughters, LOL I agree with you- it's the ultimate stupidity. However, the rapist in that situation is a monster. They have the genetics of a monster if they have sex with a person who is totally "blacked out" or says no/resists. There is a line where the woman consents because her inhibitions are low and she regrets it the next morning. That is something else- a woman's own stupidity. Of course no one should be out drunk around a bunch of strangers. Men are hardwired to fuck/impregnate, I don't consider that monstrous. I think there is confusion especially if both parties are intoxicated. My point is that women need to protect themselves better, and that starts by not dressing like a whore, not going out to the club and getting shit faced, and not ending up in a strange man's car or apartment. But apparently, that's too hard for most of them. Ginseng |
Pilgrim001
User ID: 85148703 United States 01/25/2023 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She can keep the baby, but she still needs to track the rapist down and put a bullet in his head. At the very least, shoot his package off. Make him sit to pee. I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
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Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 52929264 United States 01/25/2023 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yup, it is about choice ! Quoting: beeches far too often that word does not seem to include the choice to keep a baby you have conceived, and then finding a home for it. and then one day that baby finds out they were conceived by rape their mother couldn't face them and have them away great - for mum? her conscious is clear is it ? i think it depends on the mother and her ability to love selflessly and forever her child conceived of rape especially should they grow to look like her attacker i couldn't and wouldn't but i believe there is more that physicality passed at that moment of conception and i wouldn't want a child / person to carry that moment through life that would feel like the sins of the father being carried by the child, to me Well, good luck on finding out ANY information, if you're adopted! I'm over 70 so I'm sure that any relatives are long dead and gone, and I STILL needed to retain a lawyer just to find out which COUNTY I was born in! And absolutely NO information on any family names. history, etc. Bunch of assholes! "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
Ginseng
User ID: 84004355 United States 01/25/2023 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: NDFarm Again a fetus a few weeks old isn't a child or baby. You people almost make it sound like women being raped and being pregnant from the rapist is a good thing and a blessing from God. ALL children are a Blessing, no matter what the circumstances are of their conception ! ^^^ THIS !!! Well there you have it folks. Rapists are doing God's work By impregnating women. You learn something new every day. Oh please. Both men and women have been corrupted into this shit society. Men have a natural and powerful sexual urge, they are designed that way. Women are not naturally receptive to that without an accompanying support. But were so effed up that "women" will give it up in a carseat for two well drinks. The family unit has been destroyed, and the notion of the mother and father has been destroyed. They are playing us, and they won. Ginseng |
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Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 52929264 United States 01/25/2023 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.lifenews.com (secure)] Quoting: beeches McClain said she was raped at age 19 by a serial rapist and conceived her daughter. Although the abuse devastated her and abortions were available, McClain chose to raise her daughter on her own. “She was the life that I needed to move on,” she said. “I’m happy that I was not exploited by the abortion industry and told the lie that I could have a reset button. Her life made the difference for me.” Transmute the negative into a positive. Buddhist saying Turn poison into medicine I didn't know that Pfizer was Buddhist! "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
JustmeTX
User ID: 84369183 United States 01/25/2023 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yup, it is about choice ! Quoting: beeches far too often that word does not seem to include the choice to keep a baby you have conceived, and then finding a home for it. and then one day that baby finds out they were conceived by rape their mother couldn't face them and have them away great - for mum? her conscious is clear is it ? i think it depends on the mother and her ability to love selflessly and forever her child conceived of rape especially should they grow to look like her attacker i couldn't and wouldn't but i believe there is more that physicality passed at that moment of conception and i wouldn't want a child / person to carry that moment through life that would feel like the sins of the father being carried by the child, to me Well, good luck on finding out ANY information, if you're adopted! I'm over 70 so I'm sure that any relatives are long dead and gone, and I STILL needed to retain a lawyer just to find out which COUNTY I was born in! And absolutely NO information on any family names. history, etc. Bunch of assholes! Must be strange not knowing any of your family history. Even medical history can be a big deal. Everyone should know if their parents and grandparents died of cancer or some genetic ailment like Parkinsons. A new doctor will have you fill out a form with your family history. Pages and pages of questions. If it didn't matter, the doctor would not have such a form for you to fill out. Justme |
NDFarm
User ID: 74573828 United States 01/25/2023 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: tiger1 ALL children are a Blessing, no matter what the circumstances are of their conception ! ^^^ THIS !!! Well there you have it folks. Rapists are doing God's work By impregnating women. You learn something new every day. Oh please. Both men and women have been corrupted into this shit society. Men have a natural and powerful sexual urge, they are designed that way. Women are not naturally receptive to that without an accompanying support. But were so effed up that "women" will give it up in a carseat for two well drinks. The family unit has been destroyed, and the notion of the mother and father has been destroyed. They are playing us, and they won. You make it sound like the only rape in the world is from women having to many drinks. Wrong. |
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Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 52929264 United States 01/25/2023 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine willing having the rapist's baby grow inside you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78354269 She must have enjoyed the experience. Probably had multiple orgasms. Imagine trying unsuccessfully to get pregnant for many months or even years. Wouldn't you be likely to want that sweet baby no matter HOW you were gifted with it? And if you didn't, what about putting it up for adoption by someone who would love it unconditionally? "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81680631 United States 01/25/2023 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's a novel idea...how about just don't get black out drunk around strangers? Just thinking out loud...it's probably super dumb and we should just keep encouraging this behavior in our daughters, LOL I agree with you- it's the ultimate stupidity. However, the rapist in that situation is a monster. They have the genetics of a monster if they have sex with a person who is totally "blacked out" or says no/resists. There is a line where the woman consents because her inhibitions are low and she regrets it the next morning. That is something else- a woman's own stupidity. Of course no one should be out drunk around a bunch of strangers. Men are hardwired to fuck/impregnate, I don't consider that monstrous. I think there is confusion especially if both parties are intoxicated. My point is that women need to protect themselves better, and that starts by not dressing like a whore, not going out to the club and getting shit faced, and not ending up in a strange man's car or apartment. But apparently, that's too hard for most of them. But they are still human beings, unless they are monsters. I am not arguing that things get "mixed up" under the influence of alcohol and it's not a good idea for anyone to get drunk around strangers- male or female. But the main subject was rape (it's in the title) and that means when a woman says no/resists- or is unconscious/passed out, a man stops. Otherwise it is rape regardless of other circumstances. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81451989 United States 01/25/2023 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yup, it is about choice ! Quoting: beeches far too often that word does not seem to include the choice to keep a baby you have conceived, and then finding a home for it. and then one day that baby finds out they were conceived by rape their mother couldn't face them and have them away great - for mum? her conscious is clear is it ? i think it depends on the mother and her ability to love selflessly and forever her child conceived of rape especially should they grow to look like her attacker i couldn't and wouldn't but i believe there is more that physicality passed at that moment of conception and i wouldn't want a child / person to carry that moment through life that would feel like the sins of the father being carried by the child, to me Well, good luck on finding out ANY information, if you're adopted! I'm over 70 so I'm sure that any relatives are long dead and gone, and I STILL needed to retain a lawyer just to find out which COUNTY I was born in! And absolutely NO information on any family names. history, etc. Bunch of assholes! Don't give up !! adoption records are controlled by probate courts.. if you know the county? also... the office of vital statistics st the state capital has all your birth info also... You WILL have to "seek permission" to see your records, in either case. (you don't need an attorney) sadly, this option, likely, does not apply to you. Many states now have archives where the adoptive parent or child can leave a letter for the other... should they ever decide to seek them out. If you had a letter waiting, the state will not seek you out. You must go and ask if there is anything there for you, and only then, will they fess up the goods ! |
Ginseng
User ID: 84004355 United States 01/25/2023 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well there you have it folks. Rapists are doing God's work By impregnating women. You learn something new every day. Oh please. Both men and women have been corrupted into this shit society. Men have a natural and powerful sexual urge, they are designed that way. Women are not naturally receptive to that without an accompanying support. But were so effed up that "women" will give it up in a carseat for two well drinks. The family unit has been destroyed, and the notion of the mother and father has been destroyed. They are playing us, and they won. You make it sound like the only rape in the world is from women having to many drinks. Wrong. No. What I'm saying is, that our culture has been so corrupted (won't get into the reasons why), but the culture is corrupted. Most young women (under 40) have a lifestyle of drinking, sometimes drugging and indiscriminate sex. They will fuck almost everything, because they are told that inbetween bouts of fluorescent lights, at least you can suck dick for free. So, that was my point. That western women and western culture in general has been a downfall. Ginseng |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81680631 United States 01/25/2023 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well there you have it folks. Rapists are doing God's work By impregnating women. You learn something new every day. Oh please. Both men and women have been corrupted into this shit society. Men have a natural and powerful sexual urge, they are designed that way. Women are not naturally receptive to that without an accompanying support. But were so effed up that "women" will give it up in a carseat for two well drinks. The family unit has been destroyed, and the notion of the mother and father has been destroyed. They are playing us, and they won. You make it sound like the only rape in the world is from women having to many drinks. Wrong. Well, a woman can be drunk and lower her inhibitions and have sex willingly and regret it later- would have made a different decision if sober. However a woman can be drunk and say NO to sex and if that is not respected- it is rape. Just because someone is drunk does not mean they can't be raped or that it matters less. |
Ginseng
User ID: 84004355 United States 01/25/2023 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When your "society" promotes through all media and institutions that it is good to be sexually freaky and abuse the youth, and adult women...your society society sucks. And I aim this at both adult men and women. What is going on? You are losing your countries, you are losing your legacies, you are losing your kids. Wake up or die. Ginseng |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77114817 France 01/25/2023 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A woman's selectivity in choosing a mate is supposed to produce a better next generation. When a woman is raped, this selectivity is denied her and her offspring. Quoting: JustmeTX Carrying through with raising some SOB's demon spawn is simply wrong. That genetic line needs to die out. Soul > genetics. You most likely will answer about what you just said before God, once you're done here. (once you get satan2'd to oblivion most likely) |
Sumting Big
User ID: 79674341 United States 01/25/2023 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love this, always the way I've felt. My wife however still thinks you should have a choice in the case of rape/incest. The human baby did nothing wrong...how can you justify EVER killing a human because of the way he/she was conceived??? Victims of rape often are used as examples by the pro-abortion movement. But McClain and many others want society to understand that unborn babies’ lives are no less valuable because of the crimes of their fathers. Quoting: beeches A survey by the Elliot Institute that found between 50 percent and 80 percent of women who became pregnant by rape chose to carry their baby to term. Additionally, 80 percent of rape victims who had abortions later regretted their decision, the survey found. Some women said their abortion felt like a second “medical rape” and only added to their trauma this from link. was new to me. There is no such thing as a coincidence. The smallest coincidence can be the hinge on which future events turn. “If you don’t read the newspaper you are uninformed and if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.” …Denzel Washington |
JustmeTX
User ID: 84369183 United States 01/25/2023 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A woman's selectivity in choosing a mate is supposed to produce a better next generation. When a woman is raped, this selectivity is denied her and her offspring. Quoting: JustmeTX Carrying through with raising some SOB's demon spawn is simply wrong. That genetic line needs to die out. Soul > genetics. You most likely will answer about what you just said before God, once you're done here. (once you get satan2'd to oblivion most likely) I'm not religious (thank god). :) I'm just a nice guy. If that is not sufficient, C'est la guerre Last Edited by JustmeTX on 01/25/2023 10:36 PM Justme |
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Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 52929264 United States 01/25/2023 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems like "adults" never grow up these days. They remain self centered children, regardless of age. Quoting: Ginseng if i forced you to have to pay $14,000 - 20,000 and altered your body for a year and you had to miss work and lose income and you never asked for any of that, you would of course just be a grown up adult and deal with it right you'd be fine with that right... i if fucked up your body and finances and career and life and you did not want me to you are a grown up right, so you'd of course accept me literally and figuratively fucking your life up and costing you tens of thousands of dollars in medical bills and stealing a year of your life from you right As a Country we seem to be able to come up with BILLIONS of dollars for a bunch of damned foreigners, how about something for our OWN citizens for a change? "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
beeches
(OP) User ID: 78973486 United States 01/26/2023 06:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When your "society" promotes through all media and institutions that it is good to be sexually freaky and abuse the youth, and adult women...your society society sucks. Quoting: Ginseng And I aim this at both adult men and women. What is going on? You are losing your countries, you are losing your legacies, you are losing your kids. Wake up or die. you are so right. and they want us to die. Depopulation is the key to understanding everything they do, every freakshow trend, every pushing of insects in our food and taking away any freedom they can. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
tiger1
User ID: 79267566 United States 01/26/2023 07:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, I have no dog in this hunt either, just an old guy that didn't rape anyone ever. But might as well annoy people with my opinion. (that is why we are here after all). :) Quoting: JustmeTX From 0 to about 10 weeks into gestation, the fetus has more in common with a tadpole than a human being. Gills and all. A woman should have legal access to a termination of pregnancy up to some point. I would suggest 10 weeks gives the mother time to realize she is pregnant, wrestle with the pros and cons and have a procedure if that is her decision. Those that ascribe full human rights to a mass of cells that didn't even exist a few weeks ago, are reasoning based upon the religious dogma that someone has drilled into their head. We don't live in a theocracy like Iran. We live in a secular country, where laws are based upon a constitution and a long history of legal verdicts and legislation by a representative government. The cold reality is that women can become pregnant due to rape or whatever drunken stupor they were in and they are not in a situation where they can take care of a baby. Let's leave adoption out of this. If you sterile fucks wanted to have babies, then maybe you should have had them yourself when you were still fertile. The bottom line is that these women will still seek out abortions, legal or not. When they are not legal, the woman will likely as not end up dying in some fetid shit hole, abandoned by the pimp that decided to add abortion to his bag of money making tricks. I reiterate, religious dogma cannot be the basis of legislation or we sink to the level of an Iran or Saudi Arabia. Your religion is about YOU and your god only. Don't push those beliefs onto others. And certainly don't use the power of government legislation to push your beliefs. Law is about weighing both sides of an argument on the blind scales of justice. You may not always get your own way, but the process needs to be in accordance with our country's founding principles, transparent and impartial, as this is the best form of government man has yet devised. Your religious leaders are given tax free status in recognition of the division between church and state. Yet religious leaders continually try to usurp governmental powers. Take away their tax free status. There. That should have pissed off a lot of people. :) PS. One other thing. Using language as a devisive tool is the lowest of the low. Calling people who don't want to see young women dying in back alley abortion clinics "pro abortion" is dirty pool. Nobody and I mean nobody is pro abortion. It is a nasty thing in all respects. It is simply the least nasty of the nasty choices available. (when done within the first 10 weeks). And to pass along an old saying. You cannot legislate morality. For women like me, who had a stillborn daughter, and multiple miscarriages, adoption is a Blessing ! I honestly wish I could have adopted more than one. I tried, but even years ago, there were hardly any children available. I didn't try to adopt a perfect newborn, either. I was willing to adopt a child of any age, even with disabilities. Praise God from Whom all Blessings flow !!! |
tiger1
User ID: 79267566 United States 01/26/2023 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yup, it is about choice ! Quoting: beeches far too often that word does not seem to include the choice to keep a baby you have conceived, and then finding a home for it. and then one day that baby finds out they were conceived by rape their mother couldn't face them and have them away great - for mum? her conscious is clear is it ? i think it depends on the mother and her ability to love selflessly and forever her child conceived of rape especially should they grow to look like her attacker i couldn't and wouldn't but i believe there is more that physicality passed at that moment of conception and i wouldn't want a child / person to carry that moment through life that would feel like the sins of the father being carried by the child, to me Well, good luck on finding out ANY information, if you're adopted! I'm over 70 so I'm sure that any relatives are long dead and gone, and I STILL needed to retain a lawyer just to find out which COUNTY I was born in! And absolutely NO information on any family names. history, etc. Bunch of assholes! If you take an ancestry test, you possibly could find your birth family through that path. For my adopted daughter, when she turned 18 I gave her all the information I had found about her parents. Her birth father did contact her a couple of times, but nothing ever happened after that. Her birth mother never responded. My daughter knew she was adopted all along. My other 2 were the children of my womb, but she was the child of my heart. Praise God from Whom all Blessings flow !!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7153682 United Kingdom 01/26/2023 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Leftist fanatical abortion supporters are wrong, but I think fanatical pro-lifers who would force a woman to have even the baby of a rapist are wrong too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83793264 The irony is I doubt anyone in the "golden era" old days that most conservatives hark after would have expected a woman to have the baby of a rapist, this is a new fanatical idea. There's no common sense and proportionality any more, both sides of the debate are equally lunatics these days. Thank you for your comment.... I have been through rapes and no woman should feel pressured to keep that constant reminder, even if putting up for adoption. The pregnancy alone carrying the rapists seed, moving around, whilst you are going through PTSD of rhe event and flashbacks Yeah I dont think anyone on here who has not been raped has a right to make any comment whatsoever. It is an individual thing per woman, and yes its great that one woman come through that, but now that is being weaponised against rape victims who carry rapists child as another form of torture. |
beeches
(OP) User ID: 78973486 United States 01/26/2023 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, I have no dog in this hunt either, just an old guy that didn't rape anyone ever. But might as well annoy people with my opinion. (that is why we are here after all). :) Quoting: JustmeTX From 0 to about 10 weeks into gestation, the fetus has more in common with a tadpole than a human being. Gills and all. A woman should have legal access to a termination of pregnancy up to some point. I would suggest 10 weeks gives the mother time to realize she is pregnant, wrestle with the pros and cons and have a procedure if that is her decision. Those that ascribe full human rights to a mass of cells that didn't even exist a few weeks ago, are reasoning based upon the religious dogma that someone has drilled into their head. We don't live in a theocracy like Iran. We live in a secular country, where laws are based upon a constitution and a long history of legal verdicts and legislation by a representative government. The cold reality is that women can become pregnant due to rape or whatever drunken stupor they were in and they are not in a situation where they can take care of a baby. Let's leave adoption out of this. If you sterile fucks wanted to have babies, then maybe you should have had them yourself when you were still fertile. The bottom line is that these women will still seek out abortions, legal or not. When they are not legal, the woman will likely as not end up dying in some fetid shit hole, abandoned by the pimp that decided to add abortion to his bag of money making tricks. I reiterate, religious dogma cannot be the basis of legislation or we sink to the level of an Iran or Saudi Arabia. Your religion is about YOU and your god only. Don't push those beliefs onto others. And certainly don't use the power of government legislation to push your beliefs. Law is about weighing both sides of an argument on the blind scales of justice. You may not always get your own way, but the process needs to be in accordance with our country's founding principles, transparent and impartial, as this is the best form of government man has yet devised. Your religious leaders are given tax free status in recognition of the division between church and state. Yet religious leaders continually try to usurp governmental powers. Take away their tax free status. There. That should have pissed off a lot of people. :) PS. One other thing. Using language as a devisive tool is the lowest of the low. Calling people who don't want to see young women dying in back alley abortion clinics "pro abortion" is dirty pool. Nobody and I mean nobody is pro abortion. It is a nasty thing in all respects. It is simply the least nasty of the nasty choices available. (when done within the first 10 weeks). And to pass along an old saying. You cannot legislate morality. Religious Dogma is as much in the doghouse as Science Dogma Both are corrupt. Common Sense works for me. As a child, I wondered how the trip through the birth canal creates a soul. it doen't. What we have is there at conception in seed form, and it grows like any seed. But no new aspects are added on the trip out. Last Edited by beeches on 01/26/2023 12:54 PM Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
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