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User ID: 85143174 United States 02/09/2023 04:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. On the contrary, disasters often rekindle religious or spiritual feelings in people. When you come close to death, suddenly life and relationships seem more precious. "For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life." - John 3:16 [link to biblehub.com (secure)] |
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(OP) User ID: 79586607 United States 02/09/2023 04:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your argument implies that god is benevolent, natural disasters are terrible. Therefore god doesn't exist. How do you know god doesn't like to break things now and then? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78703378 How do you know things don't get broken completely outside the action or influence of a single Being? |
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User ID: 85143174 United States 02/09/2023 04:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yea like when a person has to kill themselves yet there is "free will" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84603315 and what 'good' god would allow you to go all the way to that point without intervention is beyond me. Who has to kill themselves? God never promised to take care of all our worldly problems. He only promises to take care of our spiritual problem. And that is by far the worse of the two. "For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life." - John 3:16 [link to biblehub.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84603315 United States 02/09/2023 04:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so you kill to the gods to stop killing but they keep killing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84603315 how does that shit make sense? also a fertility god should be all good right? maybe not. Maybe that's why fertility gods suck? yeah I guess... in one area.. vegetation god saves... but that also causes destruction in another...... or as "punishment"... just the sacrifices themselves, to such fertility gods, which are the punishment from the fertility god itself.. is enough to never belief in anything. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84603315 United States 02/09/2023 04:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so you kill to the gods to stop killing but they keep killing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84603315 how does that shit make sense? also a fertility god should be all good right? maybe not. Maybe that's why fertility gods suck? yeah I guess... in one area.. vegetation god saves... but that also causes destruction in another...... or as "punishment"... just the sacrifices themselves, to such fertility gods, which are the punishment from the fertility god itself.. is enough to never belief in anything. and then, for the 'highest god of gods' to allow this shit just coz 'theyre not his people' literally adults sacrificing children who can't fucking defend themselves, but oh, god kills you down to the last fucking drop. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84603315 United States 02/09/2023 04:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so you kill to the gods to stop killing but they keep killing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84603315 how does that shit make sense? also a fertility god should be all good right? maybe not. Maybe that's why fertility gods suck? yeah I guess... in one area.. vegetation god saves... but that also causes destruction in another...... or as "punishment"... just the sacrifices themselves, to such fertility gods, which are the punishment from the fertility god itself.. is enough to never belief in anything. and then, for the 'highest god of gods' to allow this shit just coz 'theyre not his people' literally adults sacrificing children who can't fucking defend themselves, but oh, god kills you down to the last fucking drop. coz you didn't cut off enough dicks and fill the pool of dick blood enough |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84603315 United States 02/09/2023 04:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84603315 also a fertility god should be all good right? maybe not. Maybe that's why fertility gods suck? yeah I guess... in one area.. vegetation god saves... but that also causes destruction in another...... or as "punishment"... just the sacrifices themselves, to such fertility gods, which are the punishment from the fertility god itself.. is enough to never belief in anything. and then, for the 'highest god of gods' to allow this shit just coz 'theyre not his people' literally adults sacrificing children who can't fucking defend themselves, but oh, god kills you down to the last fucking drop. coz you didn't cut off enough dicks and fill the pool of dick blood enough so he demands more DICK BLOOD |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84603315 United States 02/09/2023 04:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84603315 yeah I guess... in one area.. vegetation god saves... but that also causes destruction in another...... or as "punishment"... just the sacrifices themselves, to such fertility gods, which are the punishment from the fertility god itself.. is enough to never belief in anything. and then, for the 'highest god of gods' to allow this shit just coz 'theyre not his people' literally adults sacrificing children who can't fucking defend themselves, but oh, god kills you down to the last fucking drop. coz you didn't cut off enough dicks and fill the pool of dick blood enough so he demands more DICK BLOOD And is NEver Satisfied. meanwhilst the god of god looks on. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85235400 France 02/09/2023 04:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every one of us has our own natural disaster to contend with - our own death. It doesn't get any worse than that does it. Or is the death of a stranger more worrisome to you than your own mortality? So we contend with certain death, and the deaths of people we love, every day. A natural disaster coming right for us, inescapable. Does that make me doubt the existence of God? Not at all. Jesus has saved me and when I leave this place I'll be with him. That's His promise and I have no reason to doubt Him. God has answered prayers for me in ways which are impossible to put down to coincidence. My faith is unshakable. O Lord, my God, when I in awesome wonder Consider all the worlds Thy Hands have made I see the stars, I hear the rolling thunder Thy power throughout the universe displayed Then sings my soul, my Savior God, to Thee How great Thou art... And when I think of God, His Son not sparing Sent Him to die, I scarce can take it in That on the Cross, my burden gladly bearing He bled and died to take away my sin Then sings my soul, my Savior God, to Thee How great Thou art... When Christ shall come with shout of acclamation And lead me home, what joy shall fill my heart Then I shall bow with humble adoration And then proclaim, my God, how great Thou art Then sings my soul, my Savior God, to Thee How great Thou art... |
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User ID: 85143174 United States 02/09/2023 04:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A terrible accident happened to Omayra. Many people have died over the millennia due to terrible accidents. We live in a fallen world, with fallen people. This place is far from perfect. But accidents cannot be blamed on the Creator. We live, we struggle, we die. That's life. We should be thankful if we live a life without tragedy. Many are not so fortunate. But the important thing is not our physical struggles, accidents, or tragedies. The important thing is the fate of our souls after we die. Nothing else is nearly as important as that. And that problem is one that God has solved for those who have faith in Jesus for their salvation. The Atheist only sees the temporal, as they can't perceive what lies beyond death. The Christian should perceive the eternal, as that's the only thing that will be important for the rest of eternity. We are not spared suffering in this life, but we can be spared from spending eternity in hell away from God. That is the important answer to the question of the meaning of life: To live a life that develops faith in God and Jesus, to re-establish our relationship with them to return to God. To love god and others, and to be loved by them. After we die, if we have faith in Jesus for our salvation, the suffering is forgotten. And only love remains. [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)] "For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life." - John 3:16 [link to biblehub.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79580316 United Kingdom 02/09/2023 04:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "All the world's a stage ..." and there are NO "innocent bystanders." Christians are hampered by the fact that reincarnation and karma, which were big parts of original Christianity, were obliterated from the religion by Emperor Justinian and his demonic whore-wife, Empress Theodora, back in the 500s. Look it up. |
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User ID: 85143174 United States 02/09/2023 04:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there is no accident. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84603315 God says in the bible, he deliberately Creates evil, and good, is an accident. The "evil" you are referring to is in Isaiah 45:7. But if you look a the Hebrew meaning of that word, in that context, it means 'adversity'. Why does Isaiah 45:7 say that God created evil? [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)] So then you might ask, Why does God allow evil? [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)] I hope this helps. "For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life." - John 3:16 [link to biblehub.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 83891849 United States 02/09/2023 05:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The book of Job EXPLAINS “18 While he was still speaking, another also came and said, “Your sons and daughters were eating and drinking wine in their oldest brother’s house, 19 and suddenly a great wind came from [o]across the wilderness and struck the four corners of the house, and it fell on the young people, and they are dead; and I alone have escaped to tell you!” 20 Then Job arose, tore his robe, and shaved his head; and he fell to the ground and worshiped. 21 And he said: “Naked I came from my mother’s womb, And naked shall I return there. The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away; Blessed be the name of the Lord.” 22 In all this Job did not sin nor charge God with wrong.e Job chapter 1 Tragedy can strike, yet Jehovah can RESTORE MORE TO US THAN WAS STOLEN. All explained in the book of Job. Dave2545 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84603315 United States 02/09/2023 05:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ritual of castration eventually led to Christianity See more at [link to english.pravda.ru (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84603315 United States 02/09/2023 05:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "All the world's a stage ..." and there are NO "innocent bystanders." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79580316 Christians are hampered by the fact that reincarnation and karma, which were big parts of original Christianity, were obliterated from the religion by Emperor Justinian and his demonic whore-wife, Empress Theodora, back in the 500s. Look it up. what does this have to do with dick blood? Ritual of castration eventually led to Christianity See more at [link to english.pravda.ru (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84603315 United States 02/09/2023 05:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and if it aint always about dick blood then what is this? Vulgar Subtle Piso Jokes found in the Gospels/Old Testament (Roman Piso) [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Luke CosmicWalker
User ID: 17444573 United Kingdom 02/09/2023 05:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whether or not any (especially hardcore doctrinaire) person on this site would qualify, one KNOWS it (doubt) happens overall particularly after huge killer catastrophes. Very sad that such people are so completely owned by groupthink and peer pressure that they have to be quietly in the closet about it. There HAVE to be times, at least often enough, when just repeating the same old pat, trite dogma of "God works in mysterious ways" or whatever feels as hollow and false as can be. Quoting: Fuzzy Wolfcock 79586607 This is from an agnostic, not altogether atheist, worldview in my case. Always good to be open-minded, just not outright convinced absent (real) proof. The idea that God doesn't exist just because bad things happen is a common one, however this is due to ignorance. Just because people have a strong feeling about something, doesn't mean its true. Likewise, that feeling you have that God doesn't exist when catastrophes happen, is a false feeling. For some people, it can be the opposite, i.e. when natural disasters happen, it even re-affirms the belief in the existence of God. The assumption comes from a lack of perception of reality. We believe we are good people, but we are not. We are not good people. We are wretched creatures. The fact that we have even life to breathe is an act of mercy. The ignorant humanoids, falsely believes he is human, but we are not even human in the eyes of the Gods. We are not human, because we choose not to be. We are egotistcal and selfish creatures. We embrace the darkness that we carry inside, but at the same time, we are unaware that we are embracing that darkness. Yet, we never fail to think the best of ourselves. Because our standards is determined by whatever the majority is, we do not even see that there is any problem. But take a humanoid from this planet, to another planet in the galaxy or better, take him to another plane of existence, and behold, how he will stick out like a store thumb. I don't say the things I say, as a religious person that blindly believes in God, or listens to some pastor, priest at a church and believes in that. Most people in the world that say they believe in God, are simply blind, or the blind following the blind. Many of the Eastern Religions talk about Karma. If you do something bad, something bad will happen to you. If you go and murder innocent people, children, women etc, what do you think the karma for that is? You will be born into this world again, and as an "innocent" person, child, woman etc, where you have done nothing wrong, you will be murdered. From the beginning, we have been told, that there are consequences for our actions. But more importantly, your soul or lack thereof determines the life you have. That means, even if you were of the best of behaviour, acting like a saint, but inside of you, you have impure thoughts and feelings, you will have karma. This life, is much like the Matrix. The bodies we have are vessels, similar to clothes. If the wearer of the clothes, is seen in the eyes of God, become too wretched, he simply will dispose of the clothes, it is the soul that is important. People may find this hard to believe. But because humanity, is so ignorant, they have completely identified with the clothing, forgetting about their souls. In the Old Testament, when Pharaoh fails to let the people of Moses go, God takes away "clothing" of the first borns. Souls are placed into the scene of life for a purpose. If that purpose is not being fulfilled, the clothing can be taken away. It is as simple as that. We are DEAD. We are the DEAD. Jesus said, "Let the dead bury their own dead". The living are very very different then how we are. The living have the gift of clairvoyance. They look at a person and can see the wretchedness inside of us that we don't even remotely suspect. A pure being, is just that pure. People in this world due to being so ignorant or having extremely low standards don't realise they are evil. They think that in order to be evil you need to be a murderer or a thief etc. To be evil is not just that. That is just one extremity. Also you may have been a murderer in previous lives. To gossip is evil. To be proud is evil. To be lustful is evil. To be envious of others is evil. Anger is evil. Gluttony is evil. Greed is evil. Even sloth is evil. Fear is evil. One might say how can sloth and fear be evil? Or how can pride be evil. These things that people feel inside themselves were not created by the Father. And in the eyes of the Gods, when seen in reality, is like a horrible stain on the soul that must be washed out. But the stain analogy wouldn't even be right one here. It would suppose that we are mostly pure with some stains on us. We are more stains, than soul. The stains are so abundant, deep and strong, that there is hardly a place for the soul to be even seen. “Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.” ~Buddha Siddhartha Guatama Shakyamuni "But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.”~John 10:38 Last Edited by Luke CosmicWalker on 02/09/2023 06:10 AM You are all still asleep. Being informed of the political, global deceit, lies and propaganda and knowing who really runs the world is NOT being awake. You are all still ASLEEP. |
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