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Wisdom belongs to those who seek advise. Pr13:10

 
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Jesus said: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be great earthquakes and in one place after another pestilences and food shortages . . . and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and its agitation, while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth.”—Luke 21:10, 11, 25, 26, NW.
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For instance, many men note the wars, famines, pestilences and other numerous woes that have afflicted and still afflict this generation, since 1914. But they blindly say it is only history repeating itself. Whereas the eyes of understanding enlightened by God’s Word see in these things not repeating history, but the foretold signs of Messiah’s presence. By studying the Bible such persons have the mind of the Lord on these momentous happenings, and hence they draw on a wisdom far superior to the pooled wisdom of all the finest human brains in the world, a wisdom higher above man’s than man’s is above a grasshopper’s. Note things written centuries ago that mark the time of the end of this present wicked system of things.
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Since the Governing body said they were not enlightened by God, who can we trust that is for guidance?
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Show me that quote.
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On their website under the "who's leading God's people today" they state they "are not inspired, nor are they infallible"

In case you don't know, to be enlightened by God means to be inspired by him. So, since they are on record saying the are not inspired by God, they certainly aren't enlightened by him.

So, since they acknowledge they are not, who can we listen to and trust for God's guidance?
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For instance, many men note the wars, famines, pestilences and other numerous woes that have afflicted and still afflict this generation, since 1914. But they blindly say it is only history repeating itself. Whereas the eyes of understanding enlightened by God’s Word see in these things not repeating history, but the foretold signs of Messiah’s presence. By studying the Bible such persons have the mind of the Lord on these momentous happenings, and hence they draw on a wisdom far superior to the pooled wisdom of all the finest human brains in the world, a wisdom higher above man’s than man’s is above a grasshopper’s. Note things written centuries ago that mark the time of the end of this present wicked system of things.
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Since the Governing body said they were not enlightened by God, who can we trust that is for guidance?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80919529


Show me that quote.
 Quoting: DGN


On their website under the "who's leading God's people today" they state they "are not inspired, nor are they infallible"

In case you don't know, to be enlightened by God means to be inspired by him. So, since they are on record saying the are not inspired by God, they certainly aren't enlightened by him.

So, since they acknowledge they are not, who can we listen to and trust for God's guidance?
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Well then according to your own criteria who do U cite to be The Faithful and Discrete Slave the Master has Appointed, your own self 'Lord'?
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Since the Governing body said they were not enlightened by God, who can we trust that is for guidance?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80919529


Show me that quote.
 Quoting: DGN


On their website under the "who's leading God's people today" they state they "are not inspired, nor are they infallible"

In case you don't know, to be enlightened by God means to be inspired by him. So, since they are on record saying the are not inspired by God, they certainly aren't enlightened by him.

So, since they acknowledge they are not, who can we listen to and trust for God's guidance?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16700748


Well then according to your own criteria who do U cite to be The Faithful and Discrete Slave the Master has Appointed, your own self 'Lord'?
 Quoting: DGN


Not me. That's for sure. I can see though you had to resort to ad hominem argument again..

An Interesting factual note however is that the teaching from your organization on who the faithful and discreet slave is has changed NUMERAL times.


Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
(The Watchtower Jun 15 2009 p. 24 para. 18-19)

Other Clarifications
1931: At an assembly in Columbus, OH, USA 1931 is is clarified that the slave was not Charles Taze Russell as previously thought, but that it was a class of individuals.
(The Watchtower Apr 1 1958 p. 222)

1981: An explanation is provided as to why the identity of “Faithful and Discreet Slave” was unclear for centuries.
(The Watchtower Mar 1 1981 p. 26)

May 1995: The slave is all anointed Christians as a group on earth at any given time. Charles Taze Russell is recognized as having been a member of this class.
(The Watchtower May 15 1995 pp. 16-17 para. 2, 7)

March 2004: The slave refers to all anointed Christians starting from Pentecost 33 C.E. to the present.
(The Watchtower Mar 1 2004 p. 10 para. 9)

July 2013: It is clearly defined that the slave is the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses only.
(The Watchtower Jul 15 2013 p. 22 para. 10)
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Jesus said: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be great earthquakes and in one place after another pestilences and food shortages . . . and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and its agitation, while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth.”—Luke 21:10, 11, 25, 26, NW.
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While it is not possible for feeble man to project any of his mental power to a grasshopper, it is possible for Jehovah to impart his wisdom to men. Through his Word the Bible “the LORD giveth wisdom”, “he layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous.” (Prov. 2:6, 7) For those who gain proper understanding along with the wisdom from the Scriptures, the eyes of their understanding are enlightened. They discern more than other men.—Prov. 4:7; Eph. 1:18.
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For instance, many men note the wars, famines, pestilences and other numerous woes that have afflicted and still afflict this generation, since 1914. But they blindly say it is only history repeating itself. Whereas the eyes of understanding enlightened by God’s Word see in these things not repeating history, but the foretold signs of Messiah’s presence. By studying the Bible such persons have the mind of the Lord on these momentous happenings, and hence they draw on a wisdom far superior to the pooled wisdom of all the finest human brains in the world, a wisdom higher above man’s than man’s is above a grasshopper’s. Note things written centuries ago that mark the time of the end of this present wicked system of things.
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Jesus said: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be great earthquakes and in one place after another pestilences and food shortages . . . and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and its agitation, while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth.”—Luke 21:10, 11, 25, 26, NW.
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The apostle Paul said: “Know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, self-assuming, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, without gratitude, with no loving-kindness, having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with self-esteem, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power; and from these turn away. . . . Wicked men and impostors will advance from bad to worse, misleading and being misled.”—2 Tim. 3:1-5, 13, NW.
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The apostle Peter said: “In the last days there will come ridiculers with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires and saying: ‘Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep in death, all things are continuing exactly as from creation’s beginning.’”—2 Pet. 3:3, 4, NW.





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