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Anonymous Coward User ID: 86390005 United Kingdom 10/09/2023 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “THE DEVIL (DEMI-URGE) SATAN LUCIFER” ___________________ THEN FOCUS “ALL EYES” ON... “THE ONE TRUE MOST HIGHEST ORIGINAL SOURCE NON-CREATED CREATOR GOD OF INFINITE ROMANTIC LOVE AND INFINITE HAPPINESS FOREVER” WHO IS “ALMIGHTY FATHER GOD” AND “ALMIGHTY MOTHER GOD” SOPHIA IN WHOSE DIVINE IMAGE JESUS CHRIST AND YOU WERE CREATED? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79782738 United States 10/10/2023 01:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians don't glorify suffering. who told you that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78674941 If everyone followed the law and didn't get tempted by Satan, it would be heaven on earth. We are at war, same as animals in nature. If animals followed the law tigers wouldn't eat prey. Who created this war and blamed us for being soldiers? Little House on Prairie glorified suffering, oh thats just fiction, its suffering culture and where did it come from? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79782738 United States 10/10/2023 01:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many religious people think suffering is virtuous and not just Christians. If Jesus cares so much for his people wouldn't he want them fed, clothed and overcoming? What parent would cause suffering to the children? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79782738 Suffering without purpose is evil. Suffering for suffering sake is evil. I was raised in church and this mindset doesn't create good fruit. If you are loved shouldn't the expectation be abundance not endless suffering? Many are terrified to think they are worthy of happiness. Christians talk about grace but don't really believe it. If they believed it they wouldn't be so self loathing and judgmental to others. They try to get more members by talking about how Jesus saves and a loving God but quickly tell new converts they aren't worthy and thats why their life isn't working out. Self loathing Christians think they should live a base life but ignore the rich preacher. The preacher tells the flock God needs their money but who does preacher tithe? Jesus talked about how the pharisees gave impossible rules to the masses they themselves didn't follow. Because they don't believe it they become self righteous. They like to talk about carnality. My old church looked down their noses at others carnality while bragging about how much they like food. Carnality is more than sex drugs and rocknroll. Its running water, AC, flavorful food, art, and plain old fun. Paul said all things are possible just not expedient. Did you try reading the book? All the answers are in there. I didn't finish reading your post, I just got to the part where I could tell you haven't read the bible. If you read the Bible you would read about horrible suffering of righteous people. The Bible is death, smiting and fear. Starts at very beginning when the first humans were told to suffer cause they deserved it. In Jesus day the righteous were killed. Amidst this suffering there is scripture that says peace that passes all understanding. Few Christians know the Bible they take the preachers word for everything. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79303167 United States 10/10/2023 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP some of what you say makes sense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83835434 But most preachers aren't rich. Not even close. You're thinking of a very select few like the ones you see on tv. I do agree that I don't see the point in romanticizing suffering or hardship. In my opinion, it just creates a jaded, bitter person. If you're constantly worried about $ or health problems, how can you be of service to others? You can't. Thats the point. Christianity is used to control the masses of White people. it keeps us meek and subservient to the j. Ethiopia is Christian. Explain. Ark of Covenant held/. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79303167 United States 10/10/2023 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if anything it glorifies overcoming suffering, dumbass. there is a difference Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83350239 Enemy came in the field see, and planted his own. Now they waited until harvest time to pull. Overcoming and enduring as well as growing in Christ, worshipping in spirit. So basically suffering will take the puffed upness off, the dross can come off but only with suffering. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81897338 New Zealand 10/10/2023 01:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You said "If Jesus cares so much for his people wouldn't he want them fed, clothed and overcoming? What parent would cause suffering to the children?" Jesus does want us clothed, fed and overcoming. However, it is not his choice at rule in this world. We live in a world of sin, dominated by Lucifer who wills evil on us as he knows his time is short. Jesus absolutely does not cause suffering or wish it on us, why would he die in our place if he did? Why is it that "by his stripes we are healed"? Suffering without purpose is indeed evil. How we respond to suffering shows whether the holy spirit is at work in our lives. This is why our Lord said "I have overcome the world". We all suffer as a result of being born in a fallen, sinful world. We can resent this suffering and rail against God - forgetting completely he is the source of our salvation and everything good in our lives - or we can accept our lot in this world, and as our master showed us, 'overcome evil with good' I agree with you that many Christians are unfortunately not really believing in grace as they are incredibly judgmental towards others (Judge not lest ye be judged also?) Some of the greatest men and women of God have also had the most suffering in their lives. (Job?) How they responded to this suffering is what made them great. God bless you brother :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 86391312 United States 10/10/2023 02:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many religious people think suffering is virtuous and not just Christians. If Jesus cares so much for his people wouldn't he want them fed, clothed and overcoming? What parent would cause suffering to the children? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79782738 Suffering without purpose is evil. Suffering for suffering sake is evil. I was raised in church and this mindset doesn't create good fruit. If you are loved shouldn't the expectation be abundance not endless suffering? Many are terrified to think they are worthy of happiness. Christians talk about grace but don't really believe it. If they believed it they wouldn't be so self loathing and judgmental to others. They try to get more members by talking about how Jesus saves and a loving God but quickly tell new converts they aren't worthy and thats why their life isn't working out. Self loathing Christians think they should live a base life but ignore the rich preacher. The preacher tells the flock God needs their money but who does preacher tithe? Jesus talked about how the pharisees gave impossible rules to the masses they themselves didn't follow. Because they don't believe it they become self righteous. They like to talk about carnality. My old church looked down their noses at others carnality while bragging about how much they like food. Carnality is more than sex drugs and rocknroll. Its running water, AC, flavorful food, art, and plain old fun. Paul said all things are possible just not expedient. NONE OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS TRUE OR IN THE BIBLE. YOU SURE HAVE NOT READ IT. |
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