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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83770516 Belgium 03/28/2024 07:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent post. There is still a lot to be said on the subject because the "new normal" will be the worldwide continuation of what you outlined for the misleading of US citizens, especially Christians. In the future, not only Americans will live in an idea of the world that no longer relates to reality. Truth will become something that is completely decided by an elite and enforced by AI through media and cognitive means. And most people will not want to know, just like US Christians today, who are not Christians at all, as you have very nicely pointed out. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85097409 United States 03/28/2024 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Horrible post, and as long as the world is spinning, Christian will exist. Atheists can keep hoping, but they'll never get their godless wishes. In China, when Christianity was banned the underground church flourished. China now has one of the largest Christian churches in the world. Ridicule and nonsense is NEVER going to end the truth. I call on the OP to repent and actually learn the truth. It's true that people will perish for lack of knowledge. Made clear by the OP. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76949401 United States 03/28/2024 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Infiltration of Calvinists, activists, and toleration of evil/grace abusers have ruined the church and turned it in to a nonsense den where finding the real and simple truth becomes similar to looking for a needle in a haystack. It was supposed to be a truth telling, healing center plain and simple. Not a cosmic vending machine/activism platform |
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User ID: 80558422 United States 03/28/2024 08:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I look at the Baptists and a few others debating endlessly about pre-, post- and a-millenialism. Don't forget pre-trib and post-trib, too about dispensationalism versus covenantalism etc etc etc Much like Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses in their insularity. Or like the Pharisees of Christ's time. always go back to the words and deeds of Christ. There is no better source and no additional doctrines needed to live a Christian life. Last Edited by beeches on 03/28/2024 08:30 AM Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83770516 Belgium 03/28/2024 08:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Horrible post, and as long as the world is spinning, Christian will exist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85097409 Atheists can keep hoping, but they'll never get their godless wishes. In China, when Christianity was banned the underground church flourished. China now has one of the largest Christian churches in the world. Ridicule and nonsense is NEVER going to end the truth. I call on the OP to repent and actually learn the truth. It's true that people will perish for lack of knowledge. Made clear by the OP. You certainly haven't noticed that your angry post, accompanied by a 1* rating, consists exclusively of hot air and hollow phrases and - in stark contrast to the OP - has no substance or arguments whatsoever. This of course confirms 100% what OP has explained: Your completely crippled psyche, programmed, deformed and amputated by others, which is only concerned with its beliefs and its (false) faith, but not with the truth. If you were a Christian, which you claim to be, then your post would have looked very different. Everyone understands that. Except you. And OP has explained well why this is the case. |
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ETERNAL LOVE (OP) User ID: 83442019 United Kingdom 03/28/2024 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent post. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83770516 There is still a lot to be said on the subject because the "new normal" will be the worldwide continuation of what you outlined for the misleading of US citizens, especially Christians. In the future, not only Americans will live in an idea of the world that no longer relates to reality. Truth will become something that is completely decided by an elite and enforced by AI through media and cognitive means. And most people will not want to know, just like US Christians today, who are not Christians at all, as you have very nicely pointed out. Thank you very much. I agree with you, and I also realize that the question here is whether it is possible to bind the "ego-mind" of humanity in such a way that the path to 'God' is finally blocked. Anyone who listens carefully to psychopaths like Yuval Harari can read between the lines that this is indeed the goal. As you can see, they have basically already succeeded in doing this with US Christians. At least those who are part of a church and organized religion. But there are always free spirits (here on GLP) who understand in principle what is at stake (not only in Christianity). For every strong movement there is always a counter-movement. And so there are also more and more people in the US who are interested in what TPTB are actually trying to hide. But the time to escape prison is running out fast. For US Christians, it already has, as can be seen from the expected responses. . |
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ETERNAL LOVE (OP) User ID: 83442019 United Kingdom 03/28/2024 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I look at the Baptists and a few others debating endlessly about pre-, post- and a-millenialism. Don't forget pre-trib and post-trib, too Quoting: beeches about dispensationalism versus covenantalism etc etc etc Much like Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses in their insularity. Or like the Pharisees of Christ's time. always go back to the words and deeds of Christ. There is no better source and no additional doctrines needed to live a Christian life. Hi Beeches, Yes, the hundreds of different Christian churches. Almost all of them claim to be uniquely valid. Apart from the very human tendencies like wanting to be right or being on the right side and being one of the good guys or the winners, all these Christians have the very specific characteristic of arguing bitterly about formulas and terms whose content and meaning they themselves do not understand, but which they nevertheless carry around like a monstrance and defend to the death. The classic here is certainly the universal formula of accepting Jesus as God and Savior and thus getting a free ticket to eternal life. These people do not know what "Jesus" or "the Way, the Truth, the Life" means when it is said that you can only reach your goal through Him. It is striking that those who explain that all you have to do is look out the window to see what the weather is like are insulted in the worst possible way because they do not include a link to the weather report. The vast majority of Christians just bark some slogans and defend them like a good soldier, but don't know what it's all about. These are the believers who declare that only the Gospels contain the real weather report and that looking out the window is 'New Age'. Absurd. That is why most Christians have absolutely no points of contact with the teachings of Jesus, which are about what happens in Spirit ('consciousness' or 'awareness'). Christianity is therefore not about leading a moral, "Christian" life. The concept of sin refers to the fact that you cut yourself off from reality with certain behaviors and thereby make 'rebirth' more difficult or even prevent it. Loving your neighbor as yourself is therefore not a social rule, but refers to the fact that you think you are a separate entity, but you are not. The other is yourself. . |
ETERNAL LOVE (OP) User ID: 83442019 United Kingdom 03/28/2024 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Horrible post, and as long as the world is spinning, Christian will exist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85097409 Atheists can keep hoping, but they'll never get their godless wishes. In China, when Christianity was banned the underground church flourished. China now has one of the largest Christian churches in the world. Ridicule and nonsense is NEVER going to end the truth. I call on the OP to repent and actually learn the truth. It's true that people will perish for lack of knowledge. Made clear by the OP. You were clearly somewhat intellectually overwhelmed by the post, because this thread is not at all about the fact that there are no 'Christians', there are plenty of them, but about the fact that those who consider themselves Christians are not Christians at all. They are - in the Christian sense - Satanists. And I explained why this is the case in a simple and understandable way. They are believers who want to save the "I", the physical person and the corresponding conceptual identity of the mind, with which they are falsely identified, into eternal life. In other words, just like you. And I also explained to you why this not only has nothing to do with being a Christian, but also cannot possibly work. And the fact that you now also want to drag the Chinese into the downfall, even though they have always been historically closer to reality than you will ever be, is also pretty shabby, don't you think? . |
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ETERNAL LOVE (OP) User ID: 83442019 United Kingdom 03/28/2024 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You took a long time to write a very well written essay on absolutely nothing. You cited no sources for your claims of what real American Christians are, not did you bring any real truth about what should be done to upright others to help bring them closer to the love of God, and throwing the bible at them is the farthest thing that needs to happen. The only places that I witness what you're speaking of is here, on FLP (fail-like productions), where a good majority of people who blog here get all of their news from, which usually are lies anyway. This is where the most doom, sin, whatever you want to call it needs exists. Most American Christians I know are still down home, good to do, helpful, loving, non judgemental people, here in the south. Authenticity does still exist. No person is perfect, therefore, you can't judge them. All you can do is guide them incrementally, show them love and support and help them when they fall; people always will. If you think you're superior to anyone because of your knowledge and behavior as a well versed Christian or are a greedy fat over paid banker floating over his earned wealth; you're both in the same boat. Humility is the key, nothing else. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72708774 I understand your criticism, but it is only partially justified, because ultimately everything you demand is in the OP. For example, at the end of the post you will be able to read who mistakenly thinks they are a Christian and for what reason, and who is actually a "real Christian". Where you might be right is that for morons (and this is probably regularly the case for those who think they are Christians but are not) everything should be explained clearly and in small steps. From my experience on GLP, however, it makes no difference because those who are not Christians but consider themselves Christians turn a deaf ear and blind eye as soon as they are confronted with information that violates their beliefs. But that too is already in the OP. US Christians are hopelessly lost. . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85224276 United States 03/28/2024 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Bible is simple just read it and search diligently Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84033152 and you will find. it is the story of how the devil tricked mankind into believing he was god. It shows how he tricks people into believing that he will give them the world but ultimately, he makes them his slaves for generations and generations. He tried to use the same trick on Jesus but he rejected him. Jesus came to let us know that the devil was pretending to be god and ultimately would come back to defeat him. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85224276 United States 03/28/2024 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just to be clear, we are not talking about things to be believed or interpretations to be debated, but the denial of the most obvious facts. Facts that any sane person can check for themselves. Quoting: ETERNAL LOVE 83442019 to include, for example, instances in which "God" and his followers slaughter the innocent without remorse and traffick them for child-marriages |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85224276 United States 03/28/2024 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Bible is simple just read it and search diligently Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84033152 and you will find. it is the story of how the devil tricked mankind into believing he was god. It shows how he tricks people into believing that he will give them the world but ultimately, he makes them his slaves for generations and generations. He tried to use the same trick on Jesus but he rejected him. Jesus came to let us know that the devil was pretending to be god and ultimately would come back to defeat him. The Israelites are the main slaves of the devil based upon the covenant they made with him, from generations passed |
ETERNAL LOVE (OP) User ID: 83442019 United Kingdom 03/28/2024 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All religion is belief. The only way to eliminate a belief is to slowly morph it until it serves a different purpose. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86986925 That is a BIG mistake. The essence of Jesus' message is something that everyone can verify directly in their own experience. It is of a completely practical nature to learn that your true identity is not the ego-I-person you think you are. You must not allow yourself to be misled by children's stories, including many metaphors and allegories, but also many coded contents. Incidentally, your assertion is even less true for other religions than for Christianity. So you have already formed a judgment here without having any idea what you are talking about. The fact that you have this completely wrong impression has a lot to do with those believers who think they are Christians but are not, because they have shaped your impression of a bunch of mentally ill people. And in a way, they are. That's what this thread is about. . |
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User ID: 80558422 United States 03/28/2024 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WE are one. My post agreeing with your comments on my post got bounced. Not trying to re-do it in its entirety. I go with the teachings of the Coptic church, founded in Egypt in 4 AD No more humble and happy people than this group. Astonishing given that no family has not had members murdered by the muslimes I told a Coptic pastor that another denomination's pastor had said something awful about him. He looked crestfallen at this truth, then said immediately "I forgive her!" What a lightness of soul to be able to shrug off hurts like that. Last Edited by beeches on 03/28/2024 10:37 AM Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80286362 France 03/28/2024 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Horrible post, and as long as the world is spinning, Christian will exist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85097409 Atheists can keep hoping, but they'll never get their godless wishes. In China, when Christianity was banned the underground church flourished. China now has one of the largest Christian churches in the world. Ridicule and nonsense is NEVER going to end the truth. I call on the OP to repent and actually learn the truth. It's true that people will perish for lack of knowledge. Made clear by the OP. You certainly haven't noticed that your angry post, accompanied by a 1* rating, consists exclusively of hot air and hollow phrases and - in stark contrast to the OP - has no substance or arguments whatsoever. This of course confirms 100% what OP has explained: Your completely crippled psyche, programmed, deformed and amputated by others, which is only concerned with its beliefs and its (false) faith, but not with the truth. If you were a Christian, which you claim to be, then your post would have looked very different. Everyone understands that. Except you. And OP has explained well why this is the case. Well put. Couldn't have said it better myself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52943898 United States 03/28/2024 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yesterday I read on GLP an important argument that helps to explain why US Christians, of all known churches, without exception, rebel non-stop, full of anger and hatred, against the Word of God, the Gospel and the message of Jesus, and yet, in a complete loss of reality, consider themselves humble, faithful model Christians, and often even 'saved under guarantee'. Quoting: ETERNAL LOVE 83442019 Neither biblical truth nor reason can reach these people. No lie, no distortion, no excuse and no diversion is too dark and too dirty for the rotten and deeply depraved US Christian to escape the light of truth. Just to be clear, we are not talking about things to be believed or interpretations to be debated, but the denial of the most obvious facts. Facts that any sane person can check for themselves. This is downright pathological. Mentally ill. It is behaviour devoid of any moral integrity or authenticity, as we know it from ICD10 and DSM-V. In the struggle for one's own beliefs, it bears exactly the narcissistic, sociopathic and psychopathic traits that we know from those in power and the self-appointed elite. How can this be? One of the main reasons may be that the USA not only began with monstrous crimes, but was founded by bigoted, hypocritical Freemasons of the Luciferian Brotherhood, who made Satanism the firm ideological and moral foundation of the nation, elevating everything that constitutes Satanism to the status of law and firmly anchoring it in the system. First and foremost, the individual "pursuit of happiness". The idolisation of the satanic ego. Satanism is in the DNA of the USA. Americans absorb it with their mother's milk and are saturated with Satan's poison to the last cell. All emotional experience, feeling and thinking is thoroughly and irreversibly permeated by this imprint. It is the identity and mentality of almost every citizen. And this Satanism is celebrated and glorified daily as supposed ‘Christian patriotism’. The USA is the deliberate antithesis of truth and reality. It is a nation whose entire mission is to rebel against God. The satanic EGO-I versus the absolute being of God (If you are not a Christian and can do without the psychological trap of believing in a father figure, you can of course also speak of Allness, the Cosmic Absolute or something similar). The American dream therefore has its price, for the dream that the satanic ego loves so much ends in hell. Someone who is wrongly and unwaveringly convinced that he is already a Christian can no longer become one. A ray of hope is that true Christians (and in general all those who walk the only path to salvation and redemption) are fortunately extraordinarily easy to distinguish from Satanic US Christians - at least for sane people of average intelligence: US Satanists, in Christian disguise, want to help heal the individual, personal ego-concept of the mind and make it complete and whole again. The approach to this, the perfume of reality, is what constitutes the human experience of love and happiness. True Christians, on the other hand, know the message of Jesus and know that it is simply impossible to ever be whole with what is inevitably separation: the discriminating, dividing, evaluating, judging, condemning "I". Above all, the more intelligent know that it is not at all necessary to heal something that has no actual reality at all, because it is nothing but a diabolical illusion in the mind. Genuine Christians therefore do not strive to become God in person, as insane US Christians do, mostly unconsciously and unknowingly, but nevertheless, but strive for the only way, namely to leave the illusionary ego-person behind ("Be in the world, but not of this world") and to accept Jesus not only in grandiloquent speeches, but really quite real and thus acknowledge that "only God's will is done". For the ego cannot exist without its own (imagined) will, and its deception and persistent error will come to an end as soon as its energy is withdrawn. This is the moment of renewal of the spirit and rebirth in the spirit. The Way of Jesus. Way, Truth, Life. “In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you” John 14:20 Wholeness. Salvation. Beingness. Oneness. Absoluteness. INFINITE LOVE, ETERNAL HAPPINESS AND ULTIMATE FREEDOM You used your will to write that tripe, thus you are a Satanist, OP. |