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Arch Angels are they real or just legend?

 
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the Arch Angel Gabriel is the angel in charge of

"annunciation, resurrection, mercy, vengeance, death and revelation


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the angel Samael is even scarier

Samael is said to be the Angel of Death, the chief ruler of the Fifth Heaven and one of the seven regents of the world served by two million angels; he resides in the Seventh Heaven. Yalkut I, 110 of the Talmud speaks of Samael as Esau's guardian angel. In Sotah 10b, Samael is Edom's guardian angel, and in the Sayings of Rabbi Eliezer, he is charged with being the one who tempted Eve, then seduced and impregnated her with Cain. Though some sources identify Gadreel as the angel that seduced Eve, other Hebrew scholars say that it was Samael who tempted Eve in the guise of the Serpent. Samael is also sometimes identified as being the angelic antagonist who wrestled with Jacob, and also the angel who held back the arm of Abraham as he was about to sacrifice his son.

In The Holy Kabbalah (Arthur Edward Waite, 255), Samael is described as the "severity of God", and is listed as fifth of the archangels of the world of Briah. Samael is said to have taken Lilith as his bride after she left Adam. According to Zoharistic cabala, Samael was also mated with Eisheth Zenunim, Na'amah, and Agrat Bat Mahlat - all angels of prostitution.

Samael is sometimes confused in some books with Camael, an archangel of God, whose name means "He who sees God".
.A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell.

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alien7 angel3 "THEY ARE REAL . . .

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I think you will find out the truth to this matter,in the coming day's.
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I think you will find out the truth to this matter,in the coming day's.
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I suspect that you may be right.
.A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell.

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Neesie yes they are real :) and another thing i can tell you is Gabriel is a female angel
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E.T revealed to me his singular purpose, he said you are The Chosen One, the one who would deliver the message. A message of hope for those who choose to hear it, and a warning for those who do not.
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Neesie yes they are real :) and another thing i can tell you is Gabriel is a female angel
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gabriel is a chick? I don't know why but for some reason i just assumed that all of the Arch Angels were male.
.A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell.

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It is obvious that you are mixing the occult with the bible.

Big mistake.

Your words do you no justice, this samael w/e you mention, is merely a demon, a concoction, a distortion, a lost soul.

There are only a handful of angels mentioned in the bible.

There are no "lower dimensions of heaven"

There is one heaven, period.

There is heaven, and there is hell.

Get out of the occults wickedness, and seek truth in Jesus.
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Neesie yes they are real :) and another thing i can tell you is Gabriel is a female angel



gabriel is a chick? I don't know why but for some reason i just assumed that all of the Arch Angels were male.
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sure is :) i was shocked myself when i started looking into Angels. But what we found while looking through images of Gabriel on google images of old artworks and such like is over 70% of what we found showed distinct feminine features. Also Gabriel was said to sit at the left hand side of God and Micheal on the Right hand side.
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Neesie yes they are real :) and another thing i can tell you is Gabriel is a female angel



gabriel is a chick? I don't know why but for some reason i just assumed that all of the Arch Angels were male.


sure is :) i was shocked myself when i started looking into Angels. But what we found while looking through images of Gabriel on google images of old artworks and such like is over 70% of what we found showed distinct feminine features. Also Gabriel was said to sit at the left hand side of God and Micheal on the Right hand side.
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interesting.
.A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell.

C. S. Lewis
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It is obvious that you are mixing the occult with the bible.

Big mistake.

Your words do you no justice, this samael w/e you mention, is merely a demon, a concoction, a distortion, a lost soul.

There are only a handful of angels mentioned in the bible.

There are no "lower dimensions of heaven"

There is one heaven, period.

There is heaven, and there is hell.

Get out of the occults wickedness, and seek truth in Jesus.
 Quoting: here is your answer 463700


seek the truth eh??? how funny it is to hear you speaking those words... I say that because well the church who you are so fond of there hid the truth from everyone, they have wiped out any reference to female angels as well as the truth behind the Marys as well as excluded females from the church itself.

Nothing less than a divided house
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That is "supposedly uncovered" concoctions by the "order of the black rose" I believe is what they're called, they work in cooperation with the free masons, to invalidate the bible and ensure the provocation of sin, and confusion.

The masons, one of humanities biggest banes, because they are both meticulous AND evil, not just one or the other.

And they use their mass collection of people in all areas and professions to permeate their corruption throughout society, fueling and motivating things at all levels.

They are far worse than any communism, and they are destroying both flesh and soul, all in the name of their "horus" their "lucifer".

Do not be confused by this ridiculous lie

At the right hand of the Father, sits JESUS CHRIST, and at the left, the Holy Spirit.

The everlasting LORD, forever and ever amen.

Forget your occultic, masonic, demonic LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It is obvious that you are mixing the occult with the bible.

Big mistake.

Your words do you no justice, this samael w/e you mention, is merely a demon, a concoction, a distortion, a lost soul.

There are only a handful of angels mentioned in the bible.

There are no "lower dimensions of heaven"

There is one heaven, period.

There is heaven, and there is hell.

Get out of the occults wickedness, and seek truth in Jesus.
 Quoting: here is your answer 463700



If we werent meant to understand the existence of angels then i don't think they would have been mentioned by name in the bible. I agree that some angels are evil but, i am not trying to worship them. I am only curious about their personality traits and whether they are real or not.
.A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell.

C. S. Lewis
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It is obvious that you are mixing the occult with the bible.

Big mistake.

Your words do you no justice, this samael w/e you mention, is merely a demon, a concoction, a distortion, a lost soul.

There are only a handful of angels mentioned in the bible.

There are no "lower dimensions of heaven"

There is one heaven, period.

There is heaven, and there is hell.

Get out of the occults wickedness, and seek truth in Jesus.


seek the truth eh??? how funny it is to hear you speaking those words... I say that because well the church who you are so fond of there hid the truth from everyone, they have wiped out any reference to female angels as well as the truth behind the Marys as well as excluded females from the church itself.

Nothing less than a divided house
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Who do you think established that as a concept.........

THE MASONS, don't you see....the release of the king james bible, was nearly accurate down to the letter of the original hebrew bible, there are no "alterations", there are minor difference like with the shakespearian differentiation "let there be light" it was actually "be light" period.

THE MASONS are the one's who alter and distort the truth, and funnel it down through all your societies, and then reciprocate it as if it's a "enlightenment".

DO YOU NOT SEE that your attempt to get the "truth" is your fleeing from it!!!

By removing the impact the bible makes, you remove your desire to follow it, that is a psychological excuse NOT to follow it, don't you see how the prince of this air (for a season) is deceiving you??
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That is "supposedly uncovered" concoctions by the "order of the black rose" I believe is what they're called, they work in cooperation with the free masons, to invalidate the bible and ensure the provocation of sin, and confusion.

The masons, one of humanities biggest banes, because they are both meticulous AND evil, not just one or the other.

And they use their mass collection of people in all areas and professions to permeate their corruption throughout society, fueling and motivating things at all levels.

They are far worse than any communism, and they are destroying both flesh and soul, all in the name of their "horus" their "lucifer".

Do not be confused by this ridiculous lie

At the right hand of the Father, sits JESUS CHRIST, and at the left, the Holy Spirit.

The everlasting LORD, forever and ever amen.

Forget your occultic, masonic, demonic LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!
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well the same thing can apply to the bible then myfriend.
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It is obvious that you are mixing the occult with the bible.

Big mistake.

Your words do you no justice, this samael w/e you mention, is merely a demon, a concoction, a distortion, a lost soul.

There are only a handful of angels mentioned in the bible.

There are no "lower dimensions of heaven"

There is one heaven, period.

There is heaven, and there is hell.

Get out of the occults wickedness, and seek truth in Jesus.


seek the truth eh??? how funny it is to hear you speaking those words... I say that because well the church who you are so fond of there hid the truth from everyone, they have wiped out any reference to female angels as well as the truth behind the Marys as well as excluded females from the church itself.

Nothing less than a divided house



Who do you think established that as a concept.........

THE MASONS, don't you see....the release of the king james bible, was nearly accurate down to the letter of the original hebrew bible, there are no "alterations", there are minor difference like with the shakespearian differentiation "let there be light" it was actually "be light" period.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 463700


Right first off the King james bible is the one picked out as the best source of truth by men, there are many of them.

have you ever read the bible straight from Aramaic? its very difrent from the king james bible.

Very different
that is what I mean
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That's what I'm trying to say, all of these supposed revelations that people think they get about the bible, is really just planting a seed of separation so that people feel they have an excuse to not follow it.
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Right first off the King james bible is the one picked out as the best source of truth by men, there are many of them.

have you ever read the bible straight from Aramaic? its very difrent from the king james bible.

Very different


That's where the masons come in.....that's where the luciferian cults come in, with these "supposed alternate translations, and alternate gnostics" blah blah blah, it's all the same!!!!!

Their plan "first convince them that the bible is unstable, then their excuse for sinning, will be sealed, when emotionally implicated one way or another, they will always manifest the excuse that the bible is lost in translation, and thus unworthy of their trust"

and then all the satanic cult members pat each other on the back and say "yes the evil one will be most pleased"

or demons w/e

don't you get it guys? I mean, I'm not the prince of darkness, and yet even I can imagine this strategy <<
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Right first off the King james bible is the one picked out as the best source of truth by men, there are many of them.

have you ever read the bible straight from Aramaic? its very difrent from the king james bible.

Very different


That's where the masons come in.....that's where the luciferian cults come in, with these "supposed alternate translations, and alternate gnostics" blah blah blah, it's all the same!!!!!

Their plan "first convince them that the bible is unstable, then their excuse for sinning, will be sealed, when emotionally implicated one way or another, they will always manifest the excuse that the bible is lost in translation, and thus unworthy of their trust"

and then all the satanic cult members pat each other on the back and say "yes the evil one will be most pleased"

or demons w/e

don't you get it guys? I mean, I'm not the prince of darkness, and yet even I can imagine this strategy <<
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yes i get it and i get it as lot more than i wish i did to be honest ..cause you really think the bible is spared their tinkering? No nothing is spared that not even the bible.

but back on track a little here you speak of demons and satan and such like, well i say they are nothing con pared to the evil of mankind itself, they may as well be teletubbies ...sigh
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Neesie yes they are real :) and another thing i can tell you is Gabriel is a female angel
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Are you sure? I thought it was Gabriel that had a contract with Mary.

A. Michael is a very PURE energy and consciousness. You can attain that level.
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Neesie yes they are real :) and another thing i can tell you is Gabriel is a female angel

Are you sure? I thought it was Gabriel that had a contract with Mary.

A. Michael is a very PURE energy and consciousness. You can attain that level.
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yes very sure :) take a look at the old pictures of Gabriel on sites and google images a lot of them you can really see the female form, the hair, the face, the body in general.
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Neesie yes they are real :) and another thing i can tell you is Gabriel is a female angel

Are you sure? I thought it was Gabriel that had a contract with Mary.

A. Michael is a very PURE energy and consciousness. You can attain that level.


yes very sure :) take a look at the old pictures of Gabriel on sites and google images a lot of them you can really see the female form, the hair, the face, the body in general.
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You're going by pictures?!!! I suppose it doesn't matter.
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Neesie yes they are real :) and another thing i can tell you is Gabriel is a female angel

Are you sure? I thought it was Gabriel that had a contract with Mary.

A. Michael is a very PURE energy and consciousness. You can attain that level.


yes very sure :) take a look at the old pictures of Gabriel on sites and google images a lot of them you can really see the female form, the hair, the face, the body in general.

You're going by pictures?!!! I suppose it doesn't matter.
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I guess it dont...
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Archangel Gabriel

The Jews venerated Gabriel as the angel of judgment, and in both Jewish and Christian tradition he is one of the seven archangels. Gabriel is also known to Moslems, who believe him to be the angel who served as the mouthpiece of God in dictating the Koran to Mohammed.

Mention of St Gabriel occurs four times in the Scriptures:

* He first appears to Daniel in the guise of a man and proceeds to interpret a vision Daniel has had of a ram with two horns, which is overcome by a he-goat. Gabriel explains that the ram is the empire of the Medes and the Persians which will be destroyed by the he-goat, the king of the Greeks (Alexander the Great). This vision came to Daniel in the year 554 BC, while the Israelites were in captivity in Babylonia. The prophecy was fulfilled nearly 200 years later.
* The angel Gabriel again appears to Daniel to foretell the coming of the Messiah and the destruction of Jerusalem and its sanctuary.
* The next appearance of Gabriel is recorded in Luke 1:11-20, where he predicts to the priest Zachariah as he is burning incense at the altar in the temple that his wife is to bear a son whose name shall be John.
* The final mention of Gabriel is found a little later in the same chapter of St Luke's Gospel, where he goes to the Blessed Virgin Mary with the tidings that she is to be the Mother of the Messiah. Thus we see that Gabriel comes as the bearer of good tidings and as the comforter and helper of men.

In Milton's Paradise Lost, (book iv), Gabriel is placed at the eastern gate of Paradise as chief of the angelic guards.

Christian tradition holds that Gabriel is the unnamed angel who spoke to St Joseph and proclaimed the birth of Christ to the Shepherds. He is also believed to be the angel who comforted Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane. A fresco of this angel figures prominently in a chapel on the Via Appia, indicating that he was honoured very early in the history of the Church. The Hebrew word from which Gabriel is derived means "hero of God".

Saint Gabriel's feast day used to be 24 March, the day before the feast of the Annunciation. However, following the revision of the Calendar following Vatican II, he now shares a feast day with St Michael and St Raphael on 29 September.
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It is obvious that you are mixing the occult with the bible.

Big mistake.

Your words do you no justice, this samael w/e you mention, is merely a demon, a concoction, a distortion, a lost soul.

There are only a handful of angels mentioned in the bible.

There are no "lower dimensions of heaven"

There is one heaven, period.

There is heaven, and there is hell.

Get out of the occults wickedness, and seek truth in Jesus.
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you should read youre own bible before stating anything even the "chriastian"bible in the old testament mentions three heaveans hmm how bout that
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E.T revealed to me his singular purpose, he said you are The Chosen One, the one who would deliver the message. A message of hope for those who choose to hear it, and a warning for those who do not.
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KING NEPTUNE, "ANGELS IN AMERICA", IS THIS A MOTION PICTURE MOVIE?
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The weight of my words
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KING NEPTUNE?? IS "ANGELS IN AMERICA", A MOVIE? bump
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They're real alright - Billions of them with breadth vision as great as their expanse - and they're all on the head of a pin.
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All of them dancing on a pin and going back and forth in the two step time shuffle wave warp.

Even your emotions have an echo and so much space..


Dancing on the head of a pin.

Cognitive Angelus Monde.
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KING NEPTUNE?? IS "ANGELS IN AMERICA", A MOVIE? bump
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