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i remember back in in catholic school a nun tried to bend me over for a whipping with a ruler. keyword 'tried'. i dropped her like 3rd period french - knocked her on her ass. chuckle
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Didnt happen. Over-compensating to cover fear.
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Bullshit. Kids need to behave in school. Generations of minorities excelled in the 1800's, inclduding girls that had NO rights, and they all performed the same and with the same level on respect and dignity.

I'm tired of adults kissing the ass of spoiled rotten little monsters of entitlement. i don't know how teachers don't kill themselves.
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Was no school board or department of education to force kids to declare ethnicity back in those days ...
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All those people that died for the freedom for their children are turning in their graves. :4:
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I'm very happy that I refused to go to Viet Nam.
I've encouraged my kids never to fight for this country.
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Get the Non Citizens out of American Schools
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Everyone else needs to be treated the Same ...
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How does this make any sense?
How are these people going to become apart of american society if you deny them education?
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Wow - and here we have a perfect example of PC brainwashing!

Op is telling you about his experience in the real world!

Born out by every sort of race correlated crime statistics you can find.

And yet because you have accepted as axiomatically true (without a scrap of evidence) that there are 'no racial differences' - you are unable to process data from the real world anymore - it must all be re-adjusted to account for 'discrimination'
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Im sorry reality is so complicated, ill let you stick with your narrow world view, logic wont change it anyway.
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Special / different treatment because of race / gender does one thing and one thing only: Create resentment between the said groups.

Divide / Conquer. Its all a distraction game while they steal our rights kiddies....
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Get the Non Citizens out of American Schools
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How does this make any sense?
How are these people going to become apart of american society if you deny them education?
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Education? The US government gets exactly what it orders when it comes to education. This = future dumbed down drone workers.
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Wow - and here we have a perfect example of PC brainwashing!

Op is telling you about his experience in the real world!

Born out by every sort of race correlated crime statistics you can find.

And yet because you have accepted as axiomatically true (without a scrap of evidence) that there are 'no racial differences' - you are unable to process data from the real world anymore - it must all be re-adjusted to account for 'discrimination'


Im sorry reality is so complicated, ill let you stick with your narrow world view, logic wont change it anyway.
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Er....I'm sorry - what aspects of REALITY exactly is it that your 'complicated' world view is addressing?

You have decided that the world must be made to conform to your idealised version of it!
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See this is very very telling, dont you see why this sort of thing is required?

For example the OP clearly thinks that Black or Hispanic/Cuban/Mexican "naturally" cause more trouble than other "races".

No doubt this sort of attitude is prelivent throughout our society and in this school.

If you have a principal that thinks the same why then you will always see a higher number of minorities expelled even when the expellsion was not valid.

So checks need to be created to ensure that the principals bias and his incorrect mentality are not the cause of the high number of minority student problems.

Not everything in life is so easy as you would all like, this is not an attack against white people, white people are and still will be doing fine.
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hold on stir i have not expressed that opinion at all. i just summed up THEIR level of thinking in one reply. and i made it clear saod reply was for shitz n giggles. for them to segregate and tier punishment according to race is the biggest bunch of high pressure bullshit and therefore unequal. you get an E for effort, but a capital F for fail here.

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political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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i remember back in in catholic school a nun tried to bend me over for a whipping with a ruler. keyword 'tried'. i dropped her like 3rd period french - knocked her on her ass. chuckle



Didnt happen. Over-compensating to cover fear.
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oh yeah? i was expelled. thats on my record. *invited to leave, as my father once put it.

Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 09/22/2009 03:55 PM
political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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there are cultural differances that cannot be denied .seem that minorities have cornered the markets on vicious unrully disrectable behavior.so the shool will study and detail the behaviorproblem before desipline is melted out in expulsions.
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All those people that died for the freedom for their children are turning in their graves. :4:

I'm very happy that I refused to go to Viet Nam.
I've encouraged my kids never to fight for this country.
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I will fight for this country only in respect to kicking out the international bankers and the crooks in the government.

But good to hear at least you didn't participate in that war, unfortunately I did serve in the most recent and regret even being part of that. Good part is I am out, know what is going on, and making sure my kids understand the Constitution and how government is supposed to operate.

Down with the N.W.O. and long live our beloved Republic....

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"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy"- James Madison

"Joining the military does not mean that you will be defending the country. The purpose of the U.S. military should be to defend the United States. Period. Yet, one of the greatest myths ever invented is that the current U.S. military somehow defends our freedoms. First of all, our freedoms are not in danger of being taken away by foreign countries; if they are taken away it will be by our own government. It is not a country making war on us that we need to fear, it is our government making war on the Bill of Rights. And second, how is stationing troops in 150 different regions of the world on hundreds of U.S. military bases defending our freedoms? It is not the purpose of the U.S. military to change regimes, secure the borders of other countries, or spread democracy at gunpoint. The Department of Defense should first and foremost be the Department of Homeland Security."--Laurence Vance--
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Re: Tucson Az schools create race-based system of discipline
Get the Non Citizens out of American Schools
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Everyone else needs to be treated the Same ...


How does this make any sense?
How are these people going to become apart of american society if you deny them education?
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they need to go home get their education there
and become a part of their own society
in their home not ours. I'm posative we couldn't get so comfey in theirs or any other country for that matter.

Then I truely doubt Tucson would have need for a two tier supposedly race-based discipline behavior system!

this is pure discrimination.
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Bullshit. Kids need to behave in school. Generations of minorities excelled in the 1800's, inclduding girls that had NO rights, and they all performed the same and with the same level on respect and dignity.

I'm tired of adults kissing the ass of spoiled rotten little monsters of entitlement. i don't know how teachers don't kill themselves.


Was no school board or department of education to force kids to declare ethnicity back in those days ...
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Because teachers were there to teach, not worry about ethnicity. A 14 yo in 1890 was as educated as a college student now. Laura Ingalls taught school at fifteen. She was younger than some of her students.
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stupidity at its' finest...

if anyone questioned that 'theyre' instigating a race war within the country, this should settle all doubts. and how predictable to do it within the school systems. fuckin reeks of change agents

exactly...start with something people are very passionate about...their kids

i remember back in in catholic school a nun tried to bend me over for a whipping with a ruler. keyword 'tried'. i dropped her like 3rd period french - knocked her on her ass. chuckle
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I Remember watching kids get beat in catholic school...
Really did a number on me...

What a nice way to welcome someone to earth right?

And they beat kids for damn near anything..
It was all fear fear fear...

What's the deal with that?
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How does this make any sense?
How are these people going to become apart of american society if you deny them education?
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it's actually the kids that belong here that are being denied an education with all the non english speaking disrupters that take up all the teachers time.
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Glad that papatodd put up my post. I am currently banned from Newsvine.

Here it is:

Why don’t schools teach reading, writing and arithmetic, geometry, etc, and history (not the sugar coated garbage version), and forget trying to use kids as guinea pigs in a bunch of stupid failed social experiments. It’s a failure. Kids these days are empty, cold, unfeeling CONSUMERS with no empathy or compassion. They do not question authority, and are perfect nazi youth candidates.
I think most parent send their kid to school for the above subjects listed, not to earn about how little Maddie had two freaking daddies. Or how we can help out our illustrious leaders by doing whatever they tell us. It’s not education anymore it’s conditioning, brainwashing, PC crap. What next? Should we just randomly pick a white kid and the minorities beat him or her half to death so they can “feel better about themselves” since at seven they remember all those lynch mobs or the fact that their parents are hostile, entitled freeloading law breakers that don’t belong in this country? CLASS ACTION SUIT. It’s called discrimination, esp since we know what group of kid’s parents are paying all the taxes for the schools. *sniff*.
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Get the Non Citizens out of American Schools
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How does this make any sense?
How are these people going to become apart of american society if you deny them education?
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these litle monsters deny thier self an education with savage behavior and getting expelled .But relax cause they will show up on crime reports .
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stupidity at its' finest...

if anyone questioned that 'theyre' instigating a race war within the country, this should settle all doubts. and how predictable to do it within the school systems. fuckin reeks of change agents

exactly...start with something people are very passionate about...their kids

i remember back in in catholic school a nun tried to bend me over for a whipping with a ruler. keyword 'tried'. i dropped her like 3rd period french - knocked her on her ass. chuckle


I Remember watching kids get beat in catholic school...
Really did a number on me...

What a nice way to welcome someone to earth right?

And they beat kids for damn near anything..
It was all fear fear fear...

What's the deal with that?
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seriously, truth spoken here. all my cousins made it to say 10th grade in st pats. i didnt make it to 4th.
political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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Get the Non Citizens out of American Schools
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How does this make any sense?
How are these people going to become apart of american society if you deny them education?



it's actually the kids that belong here that are being denied an education with all the non english speaking disrupters that take up all the teachers time.
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school has became an unmanned daycare with minimal babysitting and education.
political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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Glad that papatodd put up my post. I am currently banned from Newsvine.

Here it is:

Why don’t schools teach reading, writing and arithmetic, geometry, etc, and history (not the sugar coated garbage version), and forget trying to use kids as guinea pigs in a bunch of stupid failed social experiments. It’s a failure. Kids these days are empty, cold, unfeeling CONSUMERS with no empathy or compassion. They do not question authority, and are perfect nazi youth candidates.
I think most parent send their kid to school for the above subjects listed, not to earn about how little Maddie had two freaking daddies. Or how we can help out our illustrious leaders by doing whatever they tell us. It’s not education anymore it’s conditioning, brainwashing, PC crap. What next? Should we just randomly pick a white kid and the minorities beat him or her half to death so they can “feel better about themselves” since at seven they remember all those lynch mobs or the fact that their parents are hostile, entitled freeloading law breakers that don’t belong in this country? CLASS ACTION SUIT. It’s called discrimination, esp since we know what group of kid’s parents are paying all the taxes for the schools. *sniff*.

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clappa
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This is surely a bunch of crock. Disciplining differently due to the color of your skin. WTF?.... My son is homeschooling now, but told me he knows this occurs and has given me examples of it from his previous schools.
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Get the Non Citizens out of American Schools
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How does this make any sense?
How are these people going to become apart of american society if you deny them education?
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Did you think this threw?

If they are here as non citizens [illegal] why should we pay for them to be educated when they shouldn't be here in the first place.

If they want to be citizens then they should do it like everyone else.

My sister who lives in Tucson could not enroll her 2 kids in a school within 25 miles of her home because the schools were full. These same schools boasted about being 43percent non citizen Mexicans.

You want non citizens to go to school here. Adopt a family and pay for their education out of your own pocket.
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The real dumbing down of Americans took place right under our noses...and went unnoticed!
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sad but true
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utter rubbish. We here in the UK saw what was happening over there what with the MTV culture, hollywood et all ... unfortunately it spread over here to the UK before we had a chance and now we also have this under class of commercially driven celebrity crap ... god help us all unless we do something about it soon
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i had a child in the tucson school system for 5 years in total. i had her in private, public and charter schools, as well as home schooled her. she is advanced on the national level in math and science because i gutted myself trying to find good schools and teachers in tucson but i simply did not have the money to move away from this hellhole.

my advice .... stay away from tucson arizoa if you want your kids to be healthy and happy. tucson is literally the fifth realm of hell, in so many ways, and the kids here show the enormous damage of a corrup, drug and alcohol focused society. i have NEVER seen a place where people treat each other so badly. hideous, hideous, hideous BEYOND belief.

having said that, the saving grace of the whole thing are the few wonderful and absolutely amazing teachers that still function here. teachers are better than they have ever been. the system is horrible.

she is now at the university of arizona, a school a i hate, havign worked there on high tech projects.

i need to get my kid out of the fifth realm of hell no matter what. i also need to get myself out.
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Just one more reason for private schools.
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The real dumbing down of Americans took place right under our noses...and went unnoticed!
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sad but true



utter rubbish. We here in the UK saw what was happening over there what with the MTV culture, hollywood et all ... unfortunately it spread over here to the UK before we had a chance and now we also have this under class of commercially driven celebrity crap ... god help us all unless we do something about it soon

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rubbish you say? well im calling bullocks. theres still sheep and plenty of them. even across the pond by you.
political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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i had a child in the tucson school system for 5 years in total. i had her in private, public and charter schools, as well as home schooled her. she is advanced on the national level in math and science because i gutted myself trying to find good schools and teachers in tucson but i simply did not have the money to move away from this hellhole.

my advice .... stay away from tucson arizoa if you want your kids to be healthy and happy. tucson is literally the fifth realm of hell, in so many ways, and the kids here show the enormous damage of a corrup, drug and alcohol focused society. i have NEVER seen a place where people treat each other so badly. hideous, hideous, hideous BEYOND belief.

having said that, the saving grace of the whole thing are the few wonderful and absolutely amazing teachers that still function here. teachers are better than they have ever been. the system is horrible.

she is now at the university of arizona, a school a i hate, havign worked there on high tech projects.

i need to get my kid out of the fifth realm of hell no matter what. i also need to get myself out.
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yes!!!! my son who was career F is doing honors work in connections academy.
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Did you think this threw?

If they are here as non citizens [illegal] why should we pay for them to be educated when they shouldn't be here in the first place.

If they want to be citizens then they should do it like everyone else.

My sister who lives in Tucson could not enroll her 2 kids in a school within 25 miles of her home because the schools were full. These same schools boasted about being 43percent non citizen Mexicans.

You want non citizens to go to school here. Adopt a family and pay for their education out of your own pocket.
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I sincerely doubt your sister could NOT enroll her 2 kids in a TUSD school within 25 miles of her home because the schools were full. In fact, I believe you aren't telling the truth on this particular matter. Schools are required to take children in their boundaries.
[link to www.tusd.k12.az.us]
Read it, friend.
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Did you think this threw?

If they are here as non citizens [illegal] why should we pay for them to be educated when they shouldn't be here in the first place.

If they want to be citizens then they should do it like everyone else.

My sister who lives in Tucson could not enroll her 2 kids in a school within 25 miles of her home because the schools were full. These same schools boasted about being 43percent non citizen Mexicans.

You want non citizens to go to school here. Adopt a family and pay for their education out of your own pocket.


I sincerely doubt your sister could NOT enroll her 2 kids in a TUSD school within 25 miles of her home because the schools were full. In fact, I believe you aren't telling the truth on this particular matter. Schools are required to take children in their boundaries.
[link to www.tusd.k12.az.us]
Read it, friend.
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Not that I'm agreeing with the first guy, but...
number two states "As long as there is room, your child will be accepted."
Read a bit more closely next time.





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