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Just an update to the body bag threads. Update first post

 
Jake101  (OP)

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Op.....why anti-biotic body bags? Why are these normally used?? Sorry if this is a stupid question....
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I know the question is directed to OP, but in all honesty, every-day use body bags are nothing more than cheap plastic tarp with a zipper, and maybe sometimes a cheap nylon handle. I have encountered (more than once, sadly), moving a body in one of these amazingly made bags (please note my sarcasm), to have it rip and the contents of my deceased new friend spilling out.

This thread has me more than intrigued, but I'd like to hear some numbers.
 Quoting: Barn Owl


Typically low-cost bags(comparatively) are bought for private funeral homes or body transport services.

While bulk orders reduce the cost considerably (nearly to production cost,) we have bags that run anywhere from 600-7k a piece.
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More fear from fear mongering fear mongers.

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OCTOBER 28 PEOPLE.

Big cities will be hit.
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Does the PO specify what date these have to be delivered by?
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Post the solicitation number, or link to FBO.gov where the J/A for the sole source was expressed..
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You can find it yourself. It's all public.

I'm not attaching my name to this, sorry. Not because of some conspiracy, or concern for my life. But assuming the world doesn't end, I'd like to continue earning a paycheck so I can eat cool2
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Does the PO specify what date these have to be delivered by?
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Ready for consignment on Oct. 23'rd.
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For those (most of you) who don't know me, I work with a defense contractor in SW Ohio specializing in medical/logistical products.

Way back, I made known my sincere concerns about the buyout of our stock of Burn Bags (NBC body bags that are burn friendly.) Also, the massive buyout of NCB in-line bunker filters for advanced filtration systems.

I am making this update to remind everyone of the reason of my concern, and the time line.

First and foremost, these products were purchased from me and my company at no-bids.

Usually, the government (or whomever) puts out feelers, gets bids and chooses a supplier.

For these goods, I just got a mass order number, and a new demand request for their bulk order to be delivered to our warehouse for their consignment storage on Oct. 23'rd. They also purchased our available stock on top of their production demand. This is "no-bid" meaning "Charge us whatever the heck you want." This is very rare, and I've only seen it done in times of emergency (like Katrina.)

The main concern I have, the body bags have anti-biotic properties and fire accelerates. One year after the date of manufacture, they will lose all effectiveness. The NBC filters about 5. After those dates, the filters (and body bags) will actually become much worse than useless... they will become toxic to handle and definitely dangerous to use.

To digress, a ton of money was spent to expedite a gigantic order of things which have very strict expiration dates.

Read into this what you will.
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5* for being believable and providing another piece of the puzzle...

bump
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So, I wonder if this might have anything to do with agencies and departments spending to their funding? That is, the old "use it or lose it" that permeates .gov? If they spend it all (body bags, filtration stuff, all the LTS food that was purchased) then they can say "See, we need more dollars because we spent it all!"

????

How might this tie into fiscal quarters and funding?
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Op.....why anti-biotic body bags? Why are these normally used?? Sorry if this is a stupid question....
 Quoting: Anomalie


They're actually very common. Usually used when a corpse may have been exposed to a virus. In specific products, it can also assist in preventing rapid decomposition if the body needs to be examined. Usually in tandem with "cool bags," that help regulate the temperature inside until it can be stored properly.

Very similar to the bags you can buy at the store to help keep food cold.
 Quoting: Jake101


I was waiting for the "virus" to be mentioned...In my opinion that is the way it will go down..Not a comet hitting the earth but a new virus...The best time to spread a virus is in late fall and winter...

Last Edited by <<LOOK`n thru YOU>> on 08/24/2011 02:08 PM
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So, I wonder if this might have anything to do with agencies and departments spending to their funding? That is, the old "use it or lose it" that permeates .gov? If they spend it all (body bags, filtration stuff, all the LTS food that was purchased) then they can say "See, we need more dollars because we spent it all!"

????

How might this tie into fiscal quarters and funding?
 Quoting: suvalley


That is a good point. Hell, most expiration we tag on products are bullshit so we can keep moving them.
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...


Actually - you called them "murmurings" - what are the murmurings?
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Just people thinking there's a strange feeling in the air. Other people expressing the same curiosities I am. There's nothing really concrete here, no smoking gun. It's just very strange.
 Quoting: Jake101


Thanks for replying!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1510761


Well my hope is that those trying to put everything together might find this information another puzzle piece. Or maybe it's nothing.

Regardless, it's information kept from the general public and that makes me mad, considering the general public is paying for it.
 Quoting: Jake101


I like the way you think! Thanks for giving us this information. I will log it in my mental file along with all the other anomalies set to take place this fall.
hf
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Op.....why anti-biotic body bags? Why are these normally used?? Sorry if this is a stupid question....
 Quoting: Anomalie


They're actually very common. Usually used when a corpse may have been exposed to a virus. In specific products, it can also assist in preventing rapid decomposition if the body needs to be examined. Usually in tandem with "cool bags," that help regulate the temperature inside until it can be stored properly.

Very similar to the bags you can buy at the store to help keep food cold.
 Quoting: Jake101


Thank you OP for the answer.....so if this is the type of body bag that's been purchased from your company, then we could assume that the gov is expecting some type of viral infection possibly.....

Would these type of bags be used for someone exposed to a lethal dose of radiation? Or is something different used for that?

BTW OP....thank you for answering my questions and I read the other thread before about body bags and I do believe you...
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so a "burn-friendly" bag coated w/ anti-biotics?

sounds like government is planning on rapidly disposing of millions of disease-ridden corpse.

lovely.
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Hey OP, you said the last time this type of order was made and you posted the info was 1 to 1 1/2 yrs ago. Was it shortly after the BP disaster in the GUlf? If so, it may be related since the sea floor is cracked and leaking all over the place. My exhusband worked on the first spill an was called bk down there around 8-17-11. He confirms its leaking.

idk, there are so many things going on at one time its hard to keep up with them all.
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Right around then.
 Quoting: Jake101


How exactly would this new leak kill us? Living in a Gulf State, this is of a bit of a concern.

It kills the sealife, oyster and shrimp beds, shore life and things like 5000 baby dolphins in the birthing process but has not actually directly killed that many humans. Just makes some of us wish we were dead maybe.

And despite Al Gore, hurricane count is way down.

The fact that they are equiped with accelerents is also indicative of something sudden and overwhelming.

Quake on either side of New Madrid fault as well as GOM leaking again. . .I'd guess the next major disaster EQ related. And yep, I'm right on that fault like that goes straight down into the GOM where the seafloor apparently is deteriorating.

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Sorry, but I can find not one single manufacturer of body bags, mortuary bags or the like anywhere in OH much less SW OH. Something you want to come clean about OP?
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To whom ever may want to read the original thread Jake started about this:

Date: 07/07/2010 02:21 AM

Thread: There may be something to this "Gulf Evacuation" concern.
"Man was also in the beginning with God. Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be. ALL truth is independent in that sphere in which God has placed it, to act for itself."
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Op.....why anti-biotic body bags? Why are these normally used?? Sorry if this is a stupid question....
 Quoting: Anomalie


They're actually very common. Usually used when a corpse may have been exposed to a virus. In specific products, it can also assist in preventing rapid decomposition if the body needs to be examined. Usually in tandem with "cool bags," that help regulate the temperature inside until it can be stored properly.

Very similar to the bags you can buy at the store to help keep food cold.
 Quoting: Jake101


Thank you OP for the answer.....so if this is the type of body bag that's been purchased from your company, then we could assume that the gov is expecting some type of viral infection possibly.....

Would these type of bags be used for someone exposed to a lethal dose of radiation? Or is something different used for that?

BTW OP....thank you for answering my questions and I read the other thread before about body bags and I do believe you...

 Quoting: Anomalie


Viral, possibly. In general, if you want maximum sanitation, regardless of cause of death, these are the best products on the market right now. Radiation, as you mentioned, is another possibility, but typically they have lead impregnated material for severe radiation, and usually they are not burn-friendly (that I've seen. I contract with one, specific company. There could be products out there I'm not aware of, though I try to keep current.)
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To whom ever may want to read the original thread Jake started about this:

Date: 07/07/2010 02:21 AM

Thread: There may be something to this "Gulf Evacuation" concern.
 Quoting: fairflight


I was apparently a little more loose lipped in my earlier thread. Well... cats out of the bag on that haha

but, the facts stand as they are.
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Sept 9 2011

[link to contagionmovie.warnerbros.com]
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I have edited this post to replace with correct link but when I went to advanced search to do so...

there was only one thread on his user ID.

Previously (3 or 4 min. earlier) there were 4 or 5 threads listed!

Beware of this poster!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Last Edited by fairflight on 08/24/2011 02:28 PM
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So, I wonder if this might have anything to do with agencies and departments spending to their funding? That is, the old "use it or lose it" that permeates .gov? If they spend it all (body bags, filtration stuff, all the LTS food that was purchased) then they can say "See, we need more dollars because we spent it all!"

????

How might this tie into fiscal quarters and funding?
 Quoting: suvalley



They would not do that for the end of the 3RD QTR. I deal with a lot of Fed and local gov spending and if they want to “use up” the remaining funds they do it in the 4TH
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I often wonder if the gov. can actually see into space time future events. Not that they can really do much about it, but they are able to see future events in some way. Then again, maybe I watch too much TV...
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This statement strikes close to home for me. I've had deja vu's my entire life, you could say I've suffered from them. Some are dreams from up to 5 years before, some I don't know for certain the first time I witnessed the events. When I have a deja vu- they're always specific to the single instance they occur, they're different lengths. (never had one that lasted for more than 5 minutes) And even if you know, the next sentence someone is going to say- you can't change the actions the people around you will commit, no matter how hard you try.

It gets more interesting when you add other things to the equation. Like studying "magic" wiccan/cerimonial "magical" gatherings of men and women- you'll find that the proclaimed and acknowledged "highest order" of magical people Officially disbanded in the late 70's early 80's- around the same time rumors that the government had secret programs studying the human soul started to be heard of.

The mass buying of body bags, and stocking up on things that would keep you alive in a bunker makes some real sense to me personally. The last 5 dreams I've had, that I know will turn into deja vu's one day- are all of a world almost devoid of life. In one there is a planet in the sky above me, water is flowing up a waterfall and I could not sink into the river when i fell in. They all have a sense of extreme desperation, and I'm always searching desperately for someone who I feel has been left behind. This in itself is strange to me, as I've really only ever had such experiences with inanimate objects until recently.

Add in other parts, why would men and women who KNOW what they're doing- and have all the intelligence one could ever need choose to go to war for more than 10 years over a scientific Impossibility? Why would people who KNOW what they're doing, crash the economy? (these people are between twice and 4 times my age, you couldn't beat me into believing they're just ignorant or losing their touch)
Increased military activity within the borders.
A fake war on drugs, to keep people to busy worrying about getting caught to use their "high" time to investigate from outside perspectives. We all know that marijuana won't kill you- hell if you breathe in air that's been in contact with it, it acts as a decongestant. The only plausible reason for it to be illegal is to strip the populace of what it can do for you, which is give you enough lulled out patience to sit and monitor the same landscape for countless hours across days of not sleeping (if you're already accustomed to smoking/ingesting it- otherwise my perceptions lead me to believe it just makes you fall asleep or into a trance like state)

Our leaders are doing something I've seen diesel truck drivers do countless times, they're gaining momentum for a big hill that they're not sure they can pull their load up without breaking the speed limit. This thread is (in my opinion) a person who has seen them begin to break the speed limit. Maybe we'll get lucky and someone will make it to the top of the hill from GLP soon, and tell us what's on the other side waiting for us- from this side it's looking grim and more like I should find a place to hide.
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Sorry, but I can find not one single manufacturer of body bags, mortuary bags or the like anywhere in OH much less SW OH. Something you want to come clean about OP?
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^^^^^THIS^^^^^

I call the OP's story..

bsflag
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Sorry, but I can find not one single manufacturer of body bags, mortuary bags or the like anywhere in OH much less SW OH. Something you want to come clean about OP?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1511783


^^^^^THIS^^^^^

I call the OP's story..

bsflag
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Nothing wrong with healthy skepticism. If you can't use this information, then best of luck finding what you seek.
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When you say mass buyout, just how many bags are we talking about, thousands ,millions?
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Assuming we meet our agreed upon production quota, my company alone will have produced and placed in consignment well over a million. This doesn't include what the government has ordered from other companies.
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OP....do you know how many other companies, that produce these anti-biotic body bags, exist either here(US) or globally?

Thank you...
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OP, are you talking about orders for something like this:

[link to www.trevorowenltd.com]

Or a much higher level bag? I'm sure what you're talking about is a lot more advanced than this, but if this is the route they're going, then yes.. we have a little worrying to do.
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Sorry, but I can find not one single manufacturer of body bags, mortuary bags or the like anywhere in OH much less SW OH. Something you want to come clean about OP?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1511783


^^^^^THIS^^^^^

I call the OP's story..

bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1319038


Sorry, but I can find not one single manufacturer of body bags, mortuary bags or the like anywhere in OH much less SW OH. Something you want to come clean about OP?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1511783


^^^^^THIS^^^^^

I call the OP's story..

bsflag
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BULLSH*T!!!

A million people die, you burn or mass bury them, not wrap each one up in an antivirus Christmas bag.

My intuition says this is all pimping for the upcoming movie Contagion.

But well played. Well played.

Nothing wrong with healthy skepticism. If you can't use this information, then best of luck finding what you seek.
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OP, are you talking about orders for something like this:

[link to www.trevorowenltd.com]

Or a much higher level bag? I'm sure what you're talking about is a lot more advanced than this, but if this is the route they're going, then yes.. we have a little worrying to do.
 Quoting: Barn Owl


It's similar... those appear to be more transport oriented.

When you say mass buyout, just how many bags are we talking about, thousands ,millions?
 Quoting: napoleanblownapart


Assuming we meet our agreed upon production quota, my company alone will have produced and placed in consignment well over a million. This doesn't include what the government has ordered from other companies.
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OP....do you know how many other companies, that produce these anti-biotic body bags, exist either here(US) or globally?

Thank you...

 Quoting: Anomalie


Domestically? Less than 10. Globally? No idea.
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Sorry, but I can find not one single manufacturer of body bags, mortuary bags or the like anywhere in OH much less SW OH. Something you want to come clean about OP?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1511783


^^^^^THIS^^^^^

I call the OP's story..

bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1319038


Nothing wrong with healthy skepticism. If you can't use this information, then best of luck finding what you seek.
 Quoting: Jake101




Jake,

I would not call it skepticism....more like truth.

I checked your user ID for older posts.
At first check you had 4 or 5 threads you had started since July 7 2010.

2 or 3 of those threads were about the same topic as this thread although original was talking about these bags being used for the Gulf area.

When I checked again....all of the threads showing previously, authored by you, were gone and the only one remaining is this current thread (at least under 'advanced search')

Why would these be removed in a matter of several minutes???

Last Edited by fairflight on 08/24/2011 02:27 PM
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